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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile, industrial
output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant slowdown in
the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of 2007, up
sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor Department said
Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up their gas tanks or
shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and food shot up by the
largest amount since 1990.


I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of eye-rock, and
just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been honest about that
mission. Put the whole damned country under new management.




Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25
a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of
2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.


I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of eye-rock,
and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been honest about
that mission. Put the whole damned country under new management.


Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle East
for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25 a
barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.


I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit: To
tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter of *if*
we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of *when*.

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of
2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of eye-rock,
and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been honest about
that mission. Put the whole damned country under new management.

Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle East
for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25 a
barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.


I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit: To
tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter of *if*
we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of *when*.




We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all
of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of
eye-rock, and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been
honest about that mission. Put the whole damned country under new
management.

Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25
a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.


I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit: To
tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter of
*if* we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of
*when*.


We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.


If you want to know the real reasons, you have to read two books:

"Sleeping With The Devil", by Robert M. Baer

and

"The Nuclear Jihadist", by Douglas Frantz

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all
of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of
eye-rock, and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been
honest about that mission. Put the whole damned country under new
management.

Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25
a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.


I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit: To
tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter of
*if* we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of
*when*.

We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.

Why not just pull out. Let some fanatic get power hungry and when Saudi
gets it's control of government is threatened let them pay a trillion or two
for the services if the USA to intervene?

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a
significant slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1
percent for all of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in
2006, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain
when they filled up their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices
for both energy and food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of
eye-rock, and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been
honest about that mission. Put the whole damned country under new
management.

Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around
$25 a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.


I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit: To
tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter of
*if* we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of
*when*.

We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.

Why not just pull out. Let some fanatic get power hungry and when Saudi
gets it's control of government is threatened let them pay a trillion or
two for the services if the USA to intervene?


According to some sources, this is precisely the reason they want our
weapons: To protect the royals (who *are* the "government") from their own
people.

We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when viewed in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know nothing
about.

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We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when viewed in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know nothing
about.


Lots of things seem "stupid" in the Monday morning quarterbacking of
history. You have to remember that previous policies and actions were
based on the conditions at that time and the inertia of foreign
relationships don't change overnight.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when viewed in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know nothing
about.


Lots of things seem "stupid" in the Monday morning quarterbacking of
history. You have to remember that previous policies and actions were
based on the conditions at that time and the inertia of foreign
relationships don't change overnight.

Eisboch



Right now is not Monday morning. Conditions do not warrant selling more
weapons to Saudi Arabia, many of whose citizens are as crazy and ****ed off
as OBL, and are just aching for a shot at the royal family.

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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all
of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.
I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of
eye-rock, and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been
honest about that mission. Put the whole damned country under new
management.
Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25
a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.

I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit: To
tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter of
*if* we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of
*when*.
We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.

Why not just pull out. Let some fanatic get power hungry and when Saudi
gets it's control of government is threatened let them pay a trillion or two
for the services if the USA to intervene?




The problem is that there are arms sales whores all over the world, and
the purveyors have no interest in breaking the cycle. The Saudis have
the bucks and the oil to buy whatever they want from whomever they want.

I really thought that after the debacle in Vietnam, we might have
learned some lessons about proliferating weaponry and warfare. Nah.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a
significant slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1
percent for all of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in
2006, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain
when they filled up their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices
for both energy and food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.
I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of
eye-rock, and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been
honest about that mission. Put the whole damned country under new
management.
Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around
$25 a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.

I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit:
To tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter
of *if* we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of
*when*.
We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.

Why not just pull out. Let some fanatic get power hungry and when Saudi
gets it's control of government is threatened let them pay a trillion or
two for the services if the USA to intervene?


The problem is that there are arms sales whores all over the world, and
the purveyors have no interest in breaking the cycle. The Saudis have the
bucks and the oil to buy whatever they want from whomever they want.

But do they have the guts to go out and fight for their freedom?

I suspect raising a trillion would be more their style.

I really thought that after the debacle in Vietnam, we might have learned
some lessons about proliferating weaponry and warfare. Nah.

Agreed. If your going to fight a war, go in, do it then get out.