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Canuck57 wrote:
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a
significant slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1
percent for all of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in
2006, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain
when they filled up their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices
for both energy and food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.
I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of
eye-rock, and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been
honest about that mission. Put the whole damned country under new
management.
Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle
East for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around
$25 a barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.

I was busy getting a stomach ache over the real reason for his visit:
To tell them we were happy to sell them more weapons. It's not a matter
of *if* we'll regret that at some point in the future, it's a matter of
*when*.
We have to sell the Saudis the weaponry, else they'll cut back on oil.

Why not just pull out. Let some fanatic get power hungry and when Saudi
gets it's control of government is threatened let them pay a trillion or
two for the services if the USA to intervene?


The problem is that there are arms sales whores all over the world, and
the purveyors have no interest in breaking the cycle. The Saudis have the
bucks and the oil to buy whatever they want from whomever they want.

But do they have the guts to go out and fight for their freedom?

I suspect raising a trillion would be more their style.

I really thought that after the debacle in Vietnam, we might have learned
some lessons about proliferating weaponry and warfare. Nah.

Agreed. If your going to fight a war, go in, do it then get out.

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of
2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

I'm tellin' ya....we should've invaded Saudi Arabia instead of eye-rock,
and just taken their damned oil. At least we could've been honest about
that mission. Put the whole damned country under new management.

Speaking of SA, did you see our fearless leader begging in the Middle East
for the Saudis to drill more? If memory serves, oil was around $25 a
barrel when President Idiot presumed office in 2001.

I remember the discussion earlier of high oil prices being blamed on the
speculators in the trading pits.

No fair bringing up last month's talking points.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:39:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


A sword on his shoulder??? Oh no....a re-run of the flight suit on the
aircraft carrier pose.

He was marching with the slimey Saudis in some sort of procession. You
think maybe he was being inducted into the local masonic lodge?


He was doing nothing more than following the protocol and tradition of the
country he was visiting and in accordance with the cultural advisors that
tell him what to do.

Any POTUS would be doing the same thing.

You guys are too much sometimes.

Eisboch



Careful, you'll be joining us in Bozo's Bin.
--
John H

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 16, 11:09�am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:07:18 -0500, HK wrote:
Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a significant
slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1 percent for all of
2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in 2006, the Labor
Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain when they filled up
their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices for both energy and
food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.
One must wonder, "Where is Chuck?"

HEY CHUCK! Isn't this 'political horse ****'?
--
John H

Yeah. And I'm doing my best not to participate in it, thank you.
I slip once in a while, but there's a huge difference between hoping
to find some boating related discussion at this site and cranking out
one troll-post after another.

Wonder what they'd think over on the "libs.r.us" or "bush.for.king"
sites if I just started posting a bunch of boating related threads? My
bet is that would be just as silly and out of place as all the
political trolls are on this boating site.

Yeah, yeah. "You can ignore them".

That's like trying to ignore the litter after the recycling truck
rolls over at the corner. :-)

Chuck the amazing thing is that you don't chastise Harry or other
lefties when they start spewing political crap.

Something about turning a blind eye.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:36:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to
the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when viewed
in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know
nothing
about.


Lots of things seem "stupid" in the Monday morning quarterbacking of
history. You have to remember that previous policies and actions were
based on the conditions at that time and the inertia of foreign
relationships don't change overnight.

Eisboch



Right now is not Monday morning. Conditions do not warrant selling more
weapons to Saudi Arabia, many of whose citizens are as crazy and ****ed
off
as OBL, and are just aching for a shot at the royal family.


If I'm not mistaken, Congress has to approve the sale. Surely the Democrat
controlled Congress will have the same smarts you do.
--
John H


Apparently, they don't. It would be interesting to take a look at their
corporate contributors.

HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Inflation Rate Is Worst in 17 Years

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Higher costs for energy and food last year pushed
inflation up by the largest amount in 17 years, even though prices
generally remained tame outside of those two areas. Meanwhile,
industrial output was flat in December, more evidence of a
significant slowdown in the economy. Consumer prices rose by 4.1
percent for all of 2007, up sharply from a 2.5 percent increase in
2006, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Consumers felt the pain
when they filled up their gas tanks or shopped for groceries. Prices
for both energy and food shot up by the largest amount since 1990.

Actually the opening line was: 'Under Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat
controlled Congress'


Sorry, Bilious, but the Democrats do not control Congress. They have
simple majorities. When you control Congress, you have supermajorities,
enough votes in your own party to control legislation and to overturn
presidential vetoes.

Simple majority seems to work just fine when electing people to office.
Why doesn't it work when congress votes? Could it be that there are some
democrats who don't want to go in the direction of Pelosi and Reid?

Not to worry. Next January, the Democrats will control the White House
and increase their simple majorities in Congress.

We will see.

Unless your write-in campaign for Zell Miller or some other lunatic
succeeds.

We have 10 months to go before citizens are allowed to vote.

What economic policies there are in place now are those of the Bush
Administration.

And....


Bad news for the GOP. So sad.

What is the bad news. The people put the Democrat's in charge of
congress and they couldn't get anything done, except changing the menu
in the cafeteria. That is going to impress a lot of people.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:08:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:36:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:6tSdnbkgeP4fDhPanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to
the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when viewed
in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know
nothing
about.


Lots of things seem "stupid" in the Monday morning quarterbacking of
history. You have to remember that previous policies and actions were
based on the conditions at that time and the inertia of foreign
relationships don't change overnight.

Eisboch



Right now is not Monday morning. Conditions do not warrant selling more
weapons to Saudi Arabia, many of whose citizens are as crazy and ****ed
off
as OBL, and are just aching for a shot at the royal family.


If I'm not mistaken, Congress has to approve the sale. Surely the Democrat
controlled Congress will have the same smarts you do.
--
John H


Apparently, they don't. It would be interesting to take a look at their
corporate contributors.


"The arms sale, which Congress has 30 days to review, would amount to $20
billion worth of weapons, including precision-guided bombs. It is "a pretty
big package, lots of pieces," national security adviser Stephen Hadley told
reporters on Air Force One." http://tinyurl.com/2gjepn

Would it be better if they bought the weapons from the Russians or the
Chinese? Then you'd be bitching about outsourcing more weapons building
jobs.


--
John H

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:08:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:36:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:6tSdnbkgeP4fDhPanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews .com...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to
the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when
viewed
in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know
nothing
about.


Lots of things seem "stupid" in the Monday morning quarterbacking of
history. You have to remember that previous policies and actions
were
based on the conditions at that time and the inertia of foreign
relationships don't change overnight.

Eisboch



Right now is not Monday morning. Conditions do not warrant selling more
weapons to Saudi Arabia, many of whose citizens are as crazy and ****ed
off
as OBL, and are just aching for a shot at the royal family.


If I'm not mistaken, Congress has to approve the sale. Surely the
Democrat
controlled Congress will have the same smarts you do.
--
John H


Apparently, they don't. It would be interesting to take a look at their
corporate contributors.


"The arms sale, which Congress has 30 days to review, would amount to $20
billion worth of weapons, including precision-guided bombs. It is "a
pretty
big package, lots of pieces," national security adviser Stephen Hadley
told
reporters on Air Force One." http://tinyurl.com/2gjepn

Would it be better if they bought the weapons from the Russians or the
Chinese? Then you'd be bitching about outsourcing more weapons building
jobs.


Loss of jobs does not justify selling weapons to the country we know is our
primary enemy in the war on Islamic terrorists. Go back to sleep, John.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:27:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:08:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:36:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:6tSdnbkgeP4fDhPanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganew s.com...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

We once sold weapons to Iran to help "protect" us. We gave weapons to
the
Taliban. We sell weapons to Pakistan. It's all very stupid when
viewed
in
the context of history, which our current president seems to know
nothing
about.


Lots of things seem "stupid" in the Monday morning quarterbacking of
history. You have to remember that previous policies and actions
were
based on the conditions at that time and the inertia of foreign
relationships don't change overnight.

Eisboch



Right now is not Monday morning. Conditions do not warrant selling more
weapons to Saudi Arabia, many of whose citizens are as crazy and ****ed
off
as OBL, and are just aching for a shot at the royal family.


If I'm not mistaken, Congress has to approve the sale. Surely the
Democrat
controlled Congress will have the same smarts you do.
--
John H


Apparently, they don't. It would be interesting to take a look at their
corporate contributors.


"The arms sale, which Congress has 30 days to review, would amount to $20
billion worth of weapons, including precision-guided bombs. It is "a
pretty
big package, lots of pieces," national security adviser Stephen Hadley
told
reporters on Air Force One." http://tinyurl.com/2gjepn

Would it be better if they bought the weapons from the Russians or the
Chinese? Then you'd be bitching about outsourcing more weapons building
jobs.


Loss of jobs does not justify selling weapons to the country we know is our
primary enemy in the war on Islamic terrorists. Go back to sleep, John.


Would it be better if they bought the weapons from the Russians or the
Chinese? Are you too much a pansy to answer the question you skipped?
--
John H

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

A sword on his shoulder??? Oh no....a re-run of the flight suit on
the aircraft carrier pose.
He was marching with the slimey Saudis in some sort of procession.
You think maybe he was being inducted into the local masonic lodge?


He was doing nothing more than following the protocol and tradition of
the country he was visiting and in accordance with the cultural
advisors that tell him what to do.

Any POTUS would be doing the same thing.

You guys are too much sometimes.

Eisboch





Sorry, but I cannot envision President Hillary walking hand in hand with
the slimey Saudis and carrying a sword on her soldier. Or President
Barack. The fact is, Bush is a toady of the Saudis.

Look Harry misspelled a word. But, I won't be an asshole and point it out.