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Short Wave Sportfishing January 13th 08 02:06 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html

[email protected] January 13th 08 02:37 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 13th 08 02:54 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html

Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.

We can build it in my basement.

It's heated. :)

[email protected] January 13th 08 03:46 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.

We can build it in my basement.

It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?

HK January 13th 08 03:51 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?
Might be a fun project.
http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html
Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)
I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.

We can build it in my basement.

It's heated. :)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?



You guys are going to build a fiberglass dory?

I want the movie rights.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 13th 08 03:56 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html

Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.

We can build it in my basement.

It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.

I'm leaning towards hybrid.

Although old school would be fun.

JoeSpareBedroom January 13th 08 03:56 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================



WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?



[email protected] January 13th 08 04:29 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 12, 10:56*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================

WOOF WOOF!!! *Want a doggy treat?


Shut up you little drunken bitch before someone slaps you in the face
with a dick... No one here except Harry even gives one little ****
about anything you say, or any regurgetated advice you might slip in
between your drunken rants...

JoeSpareBedroom January 13th 08 04:31 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 10:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================

WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?


Shut up you little drunken bitch before someone slaps you in the face
with a dick... No one here except Harry even gives one little ****
about anything you say, or any regurgetated advice you might slip in
between your drunken rants...

====================


WOOF WOOF, little puppy! Roll over! Beg!



[email protected] January 13th 08 04:42 AM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 12, 10:56*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.

I'm leaning towards hybrid.

Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)

Jim January 13th 08 12:15 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 10:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================

WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?


Shut up you little drunken bitch before someone slaps you in the face
with a dick... No one here except Harry even gives one little ****
about anything you say, or any regurgetated advice you might slip in
between your drunken rants...

You can do better than that, Freakin. You don't need to speak his kind of
language to communicate TO him. Communicating WITH him is an absolute waste
of time.


Jim January 13th 08 12:18 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 10:56 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. :)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.

I'm leaning towards hybrid.

Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)
I've seen the Melonseed. It is an absolute work of art. Perfect in every
detail. I'm sure the skiff is just as nice. It better be for the price.


Short Wave Sportfishing January 13th 08 12:44 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:18:46 -0500, "Jim"
wrote:

I've seen the Melonseed. It is an absolute work of art. Perfect in every
detail. I'm sure the skiff is just as nice. It better be for the price.


I've seen them too - they are very nice boats and he does a great job.

This type of gunning dory is actually a coincident design - two guys
Chamberlain and Cunningham came up with it. They were built in the
early 20th century at what was called the Hood Lower Yard in
Marblehead.

One of my relatives still has an original Cunningham built gunning
dory.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 13th 08 12:45 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:42:08 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 12, 10:56*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html

Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.

I'm leaning towards hybrid.

Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)


Tell you what - I'll run down to Mystic Seaport this coming week and
get the drawings and offsets. I'm pretty sure we can loft it on the
basement floor once we move a couple of things around.

You want to built a Chamberlain semi-dory next to it - no problem
dude.

[email protected] January 13th 08 01:29 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 7:45*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:42:08 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Jan 12, 10:56*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.


I'm leaning towards hybrid.


Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of *the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)


Tell you what - I'll run down to Mystic Seaport this coming week and
get the drawings and offsets.


Cool...

*I'm pretty sure we can loft it on the
basement floor once we move a couple of things around.

You want to built a Chamberlain semi-dory next to it


It's a thought;) Might just screw with that Whaler design.
- Show quoted text -



[email protected] January 13th 08 01:32 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 7:15*am, "Jim" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 12, 10:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


================


WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?


Shut up you little drunken bitch before someone slaps you in the face
with a dick... *No one here except Harry even gives one little ****
about anything you say, or any regurgetated advice you might slip in
between your drunken rants...

You can do better than that, Freakin. You don't need to speak his kind of
language to communicate TO him. Communicating WITH him is an absolute waste
of time


Yeah, you are right, I started ignoring him a while ago. He really
does not have anythigng to add that I need to know... I should go back
to ignoring him.

[email protected] January 13th 08 02:29 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 7:44*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:18:46 -0500, "Jim"
wrote:

I've seen the Melonseed. It is an absolute work of art. Perfect in every
detail. I'm sure the skiff is just as nice. It better be for the price.


I've seen them too - they are very nice boats and he does a great job.

This type of gunning dory is actually a coincident design - two guys
Chamberlain and Cunningham came up with it. *They were built in the
early 20th century at what was called the Hood Lower Yard in
Marblehead.

One of my relatives still has an original Cunningham built gunning
dory.


So why are you looking at the double ender anyway?

John H.[_3_] January 13th 08 02:46 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================



WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?


Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom January 13th 08 03:22 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================



WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?


Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H



"Come on, guys. Lemme see the ball. Hey...guys...."
-John H.



HK January 13th 08 03:34 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html
Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================



WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?

Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H



"Come on, guys. Lemme see the ball. Hey...guys...."
-John H.




I'll bet dollars to donuts that Herring the Drooler posts one of his
snarky little remarks about almost every post I put up here, all the
time denying he is acting just like a snarky little asshole.

I suppose if I were a mustered out, toothless, deaf old fart with
nothing to live for but the lives of my grandchildren, I would be just
like Herring. Except, if I were, I'd take myself out.

[email protected] January 13th 08 03:57 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 10:34*am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
....
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html
Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


================


WOOF WOOF!!! *Want a doggy treat?


Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H


"Come on, guys. Lemme see the ball. Hey...guys...."
-John H.


I'll bet dollars to donuts that Herring the Drooler posts one of his
snarky little remarks about almost every post I put up here, all the
time denying he is acting just like a snarky little asshole.

I suppose if I were a mustered out, toothless, deaf old fart with
nothing to live for but the lives of my grandchildren, I would be just
like Herring. Except, if I were, I'd take myself out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You had better hope so, cause if J and I stop responding to you and
Joe, you will only have each other to talk to. Of course if one of you
is a sock puppet, which I highly suspect, you would be alone here
too..;(

HK January 13th 08 04:00 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote:
On Jan 13, 10:34 am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?
Might be a fun project.
http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html
Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)
I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.
================
WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?
Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H
"Come on, guys. Lemme see the ball. Hey...guys...."
-John H.

I'll bet dollars to donuts that Herring the Drooler posts one of his
snarky little remarks about almost every post I put up here, all the
time denying he is acting just like a snarky little asshole.

I suppose if I were a mustered out, toothless, deaf old fart with
nothing to live for but the lives of my grandchildren, I would be just
like Herring. Except, if I were, I'd take myself out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You had better hope so, cause if J and I stop responding to you and
Joe, you will only have each other to talk to. Of course if one of you
is a sock puppet, which I highly suspect, you would be alone here
too..;(



If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he has
left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with ReggieReTurdo
and some others.

I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about small
boats. :}


[email protected] January 13th 08 04:08 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 11:00*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 10:34 am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?
Might be a fun project.
http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html
Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)
I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.
================
WOOF WOOF!!! *Want a doggy treat?
Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H
"Come on, guys. Lemme see the ball. Hey...guys...."
-John H.
I'll bet dollars to donuts that Herring the Drooler posts one of his
snarky little remarks about almost every post I put up here, all the
time denying he is acting just like a snarky little asshole.


I suppose if I were a mustered out, toothless, deaf old fart with
nothing to live for but the lives of my grandchildren, I would be just
like Herring. Except, if I were, I'd take myself out.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You had better hope so, cause if J and I stop responding to you and
Joe, you will only have each other to talk to. Of course if one of you
is a sock puppet, which I highly suspect, you would be alone here
too..;(


If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he has
left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with ReggieReTurdo
and some others.

I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about small
boats. :}- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Awwwww, your a real pal.

BAR January 13th 08 04:55 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
HK wrote:


If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he has
left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with ReggieReTurdo
and some others.

I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about small
boats. :}


You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe that
because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have this
psychological affliction.


John H.[_3_] January 13th 08 04:57 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:34:40 -0500, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:56:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?

Might be a fun project.

http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html
Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)

I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.

================



WOOF WOOF!!! Want a doggy treat?

Assholish comment. You, Harry, and JimH go well together.
--
John H



"Come on, guys. Lemme see the ball. Hey...guys...."
-John H.




I'll bet dollars to donuts that Herring the Drooler posts one of his
snarky little remarks about almost every post I put up here, all the
time denying he is acting just like a snarky little asshole.

I suppose if I were a mustered out, toothless, deaf old fart with
nothing to live for but the lives of my grandchildren, I would be just
like Herring. Except, if I were, I'd take myself out.


Thanks for the reminder, Harry. I've got to clean the hearing aids today.

You are such a cool guy!
--
John H

HK January 13th 08 05:00 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he has
left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with ReggieReTurdo
and some others.

I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}


You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe that
because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have this
psychological affliction.



I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the Republican
Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine" retards. Just
like you.

BAR January 13th 08 05:05 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he has
left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with ReggieReTurdo
and some others.

I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}


You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have this
psychological affliction.



I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the Republican
Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine" retards. Just
like you.


Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.




HK January 13th 08 05:09 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.

I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}


You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.



I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.


Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.





Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.

[email protected] January 13th 08 06:28 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 12:09*pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:


If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.


I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}


You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.


I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.


Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.


Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??

[email protected] January 13th 08 07:27 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 12, 11:42*pm, wrote:
On Jan 12, 10:56*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.


I'm leaning towards hybrid.


Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of *the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You won't be able to do it as good as Harry, and you know it, so why
even try? Harry's probably already done a hundred or so variations of
the same boat, just ask him.

[email protected] January 13th 08 07:30 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 2:27*pm, wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:42*pm, wrote:





On Jan 12, 10:56*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. *We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. *Gardner did a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. *:)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.


I'm leaning towards hybrid.


Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of *the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You won't be able to do it as good as Harry, and you know it, so why
even try? Harry's probably already done a hundred or so variations of
the same boat, just ask him.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just throwin' him a bone... I am looking for anyones opinion...

HK January 13th 08 08:15 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote:
On Jan 13, 12:09 pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.
I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}
You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.
I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.
Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.

Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??

\

I like the looks of double ended dories but I'm not an 18th century
whaler, so I wouldn't go very far offshore in one. Sawn and bent oak
framework, oak seats and trim. Bronze oarlocks.

Don White January 13th 08 08:50 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 2:27 pm, wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:42 pm, wrote:





On Jan 12, 10:56 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:46:50 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:54 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0800 (PST),


wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Got plans for one of these handy?


Might be a fun project.


http://www.melonseed.com/html/gunning_dory.html


Sure, piece of cake. We could build it in a couple of weeks;)


I have some great offsets from Mystic/Gardner.


It's actually a Cunningham design, but I won't quibble. Gardner did
a
nice job keeping the design alive.


We can build it in my basement.


It's heated. :)


Totally old school, or hybred with new technology?


I'll give you a call tomorrow.


I'm leaning towards hybrid.


Although old school would be fun.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


We can do a hybred that looks and feels like old school. That pine of
yours can be used if we laminate frames anyway, or steam bend, either
one is ok. If you like the Cunninham lines, get ahold of the offsets
and we can adjust accordingly. The dory I am thinking of is Gardners
Marblehead Gunning Dory, it is an 18 footer iirc. If we are doing
traditional dories, I will be wanting to do a Chamberlin sailing semi
next to it;)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You won't be able to do it as good as Harry, and you know it, so why
even try? Harry's probably already done a hundred or so variations of
the same boat, just ask him.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just throwin' him a bone... I am looking for anyones opinion...

I actually thought of a traditional dory a while back. Someone had won one
in a contest and decided to sell it.
The weight of it... and the eventual upkeep (wooden boat) brought me to my
senses.
http://www.doryshop.com/



Eisboch January 13th 08 09:23 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the Republican
Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine" retards. Just like
you.


Please define the difference between "f*uck you, I've got mine" and "f*uck
you, I earned mine".

Eisboch



[email protected] January 13th 08 09:48 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 3:15*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 12:09 pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.
I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}
You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.
I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.
Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.
Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??


\

I like the looks of double ended dories but I'm not an 18th century
whaler, so I wouldn't go very far offshore in one. Sawn and bent oak
framework, oak seats and trim. Bronze oarlocks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oarlocks on a traditioinal built dory? Lubbers, geeze....

HK January 13th 08 10:04 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the Republican
Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine" retards. Just like
you.


Please define the difference between "f*uck you, I've got mine" and "f*uck
you, I earned mine".

Eisboch



None.

HK January 13th 08 10:05 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:15 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 12:09 pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.
I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}
You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.
I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.
Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.
Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??

\

I like the looks of double ended dories but I'm not an 18th century
whaler, so I wouldn't go very far offshore in one. Sawn and bent oak
framework, oak seats and trim. Bronze oarlocks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oarlocks on a traditioinal built dory? Lubbers, geeze....


Yeah, well, they are a step forward. Thought you wanted to build a boat
to row.

[email protected] January 13th 08 10:11 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
On Jan 13, 5:05*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:15 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 12:09 pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.
I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}
You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.
I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.
Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.
Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??
\


I like the looks of double ended dories but I'm not an 18th century
whaler, so I wouldn't go very far offshore in one. Sawn and bent oak
framework, oak seats and trim. Bronze oarlocks.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oarlocks on a traditioinal built dory? Lubbers, geeze....


Yeah, well, they are a step forward. Thought you wanted to build a boat
to row.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He does...

Man, you must have been riding in plastic boats too long.. Look at
this setup, it is the only way to mount an oar on a trad, dory....
lubber.. newbie...uh.. oh forget it, just look at these;)

http://www.orbitals.com/pic/row05/big/o000-546.jpg

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/m...thole_pins.jpg

hurmph....

HK January 13th 08 10:17 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote:
On Jan 13, 5:05 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:15 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 12:09 pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.
I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}
You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.
I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.
Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.
Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??
\
I like the looks of double ended dories but I'm not an 18th century
whaler, so I wouldn't go very far offshore in one. Sawn and bent oak
framework, oak seats and trim. Bronze oarlocks.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oarlocks on a traditioinal built dory? Lubbers, geeze....

Yeah, well, they are a step forward. Thought you wanted to build a boat
to row.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He does...

Man, you must have been riding in plastic boats too long.. Look at
this setup, it is the only way to mount an oar on a trad, dory....
lubber.. newbie...uh.. oh forget it, just look at these;)

http://www.orbitals.com/pic/row05/big/o000-546.jpg

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/m...thole_pins.jpg

hurmph....



Been there, done that. (the first photo).

I like ribbed horn oarlocks


http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware...0770/index.htm

HK January 13th 08 10:18 PM

Yo! Freakin' Minute...
 
wrote:
On Jan 13, 5:05 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:15 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 13, 12:09 pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
If Herring is responding to me, he is wasting what little time he
has left on earth, because I don't read his crap. Same with
ReggieReTurdo and some others.
I read your posts for the moment because, well, I have long been a
student of deviant personalities, and I know you, unlike Herring,
ReggieReTudo, Dan, and some others, actually know something about
small boats. :}
You claim to be a "student of deviant personalities", I can believe
that because you appear to be seeking answer to why you have have
this psychological affliction.
I read some of your posts to remind me what is wrong with the
Republican Party. It's full of selfish, "f*ck you, I've got mine"
retards. Just like you.
Come Harry open up the dossier you have on me and pull out the
charitable contributions page and look at what we contribute and how we
contribute to charities.
Sorry, Bozo, but I have no idea what you claim to give to what you
consider charity, nor do I care.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So anyway Harry, let's get this turned around. I remember SW talking
about building a Dory. What do you like better for an off shore
rowboat, a double ender, or a keystone? Why? Does it matter really if
it is mostly out of the water. One advantage of course is the ability
to skull in the event of equipment loss or failure, maybe a little
lift in a following sea. Anyway, if we are going to do a nice
"traditional" dory I think sawn or bent frames, wood not composite,
same with the hull sides although I see no reason not to go with a
composite bottom to avoid planking. Of course I could make a plank
composite that would look traditional, but not leak;) Anyway, if we
are going to build a real dory, I would like to use real wood for the
strakes and topsides. In fact if SW starts talking about oar locks and
other fancy schmancy stuff, I just might sneak up and paint on some
"nose art" on the bow for him...;) Theol pins (spelling?) even if I
can't spell it, or you might as well just.. oh well, any comments,
anyone??
\
I like the looks of double ended dories but I'm not an 18th century
whaler, so I wouldn't go very far offshore in one. Sawn and bent oak
framework, oak seats and trim. Bronze oarlocks.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oarlocks on a traditioinal built dory? Lubbers, geeze....

Yeah, well, they are a step forward. Thought you wanted to build a boat
to row.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He does...

Man, you must have been riding in plastic boats too long.. Look at
this setup, it is the only way to mount an oar on a trad, dory....
lubber.. newbie...uh.. oh forget it, just look at these;)

http://www.orbitals.com/pic/row05/big/o000-546.jpg

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/m...thole_pins.jpg

hurmph....




Nice boat he

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jw/joansa/index.htm


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