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Eisboch January 14th 08 09:02 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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Maybe I misunderstood what Vic said. My interpretation was that he
wanted
just words on the page. He said "a simple doc". If all you want to do
is
type some words, save the doc and maybe print it, those actions take
you
nowhere near the menus for graphic features. They're all on the File
menu. I
suppose a spastic mouse movement could cause you to hit toolbar
buttons, but
that's one of many reasons why professional typists don't use the mouse
for
the vast majority of work.

Nah, they were mostly "official" and a reflection on my
"professionalism" so they were fonted, centered, and paginated.
Anyway, most of the time I had problems with it was when a nerd
tricked it out with all kinds of tabulation, macros, and such.
Then I just refused to deal with it.
You know, you give some people a hammer, and they turn it into a
milling machine.

--Vic



Don't tell anyone else in the group about this page:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211982

Learn a few of those and you'll be the robocop of word processing.



Then what, get a job as a secretary?


When I first started writing technical proposals or papers, we were still
writing it out on legal pads and did a true, physical cut and paste to
rearrange or use previously written boilerplate. Then, the secretaries
would type it out, correcting grammar and spelling. When PCs came along it
was obviously easier and faster to do it ourselves, but the grammar,
sentence structure and spelling still suffered, despite the rudimentary
spell/grammar/punctuation checkers.

That was one good thing about writing technical stuff though. Typically the
only people reading it were engineers or lawyers and none of them can spell
or write a proper paragraph either. Heck, if we couldn't think of a word to
adequately describe a component or technical concept, we just made one up.

Eisboch



BAR January 15th 08 12:34 AM

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?


I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they
don't try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular
society. No ayatollahs need apply.

"Your" society is our society and it is not secular.


Uh-huh. We have no state religion or official religious belief in
this country, at least for the moment. I believe in maintaining the
separation of church and state, the prevention of the adoption of any
state religion or state religious belief, the withdrawal of state
subsidies to K-12 religious schools, and the end of tax exemption for
churches. The state should be neutral on matters of belief, and gives
no state privileges or subsidies to religions.


There is no "separation" between church and state in the Constitution,
there is the first amendment. Are you going to throw out the opening
and closing prayers of the House and Senate? Why are the re military
chaplins? Religion is a critical component of our society.



Elegant, ain't it?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


It doesn't say that the public square is free from religion.

No law. That means no state religion or state religious belief. You are
free to exercise whatever religion you wish, but there is nothing there
saying you can try to shovel it onto me or onto the state.


Who said anything about a state religion? Nobody wants to shove it onto
you or the state they just want the freedom to freely exercise their
religion. And, who says that the first amendment won't be ignored in the
future. Congress and the president ignore the tenth amendment all of the
time.

As for chaplains, I believe their pay and benefits ought to be borne by
religious organizations, not by the taxpayers. But I wouldn't push for
that. That's just my belief.


Why wouldn't you push for that. Do you have a soft spot in your heart
for the military? Any attempt at getting rid of chaplains would cause
Congress to go into shock.

Yes, I would toss out the opening and closing prayers in Congress.


Why don't you get your ACLU buddies to go after Congress and get the
prayer removed?

Your assumption and the assumption of several of the other simpies here
is that I am anti-religion. I am not. I don't give a damn what religion
you practice, so long as you keep it in your church, in your home, and
*out* of my state. I am a disestablishmentarianist.


You are anti-religion when it comes to any religion that you don't
practice. Please remind me of which religion you are in favor of, it
will help clear up a lot of things. Oh, and for your information and the
dossier you keep on me, I do not practice any established religion.

Why don't you and Doug Kanter go and some some dope and slap each other
on the back talking about being disestablishmentarianists.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 15th 08 12:53 AM

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.


How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?


I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.


But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?

Short Wave Sportfishing January 15th 08 01:11 AM

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:46:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.


How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?


If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.


Well I'm not a Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist
Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeyist.

I belong to the Transcendental Meditative Catholic Buddhist
Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkey - Reformed Synod.

Reformers reject the Fundamentalist theology instead substituting our
own. :)

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 15th 08 01:14 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.
How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

I don't care if they have sex with their monkeys, so long as they don't
try to shovel their religious beliefs onto my secular society. No
ayatollahs need apply.


But you believe that it's perfectly ok to impose your secular beliefs
on me correct?


Of course it is ok, especially if he gets to ridicule and denigrate
those who have a strong faith.


Short Wave Sportfishing January 15th 08 01:16 AM

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:56:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.


I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.


There aren't any texts as such - it's more of a philosophy.

The main tenant is do unto others before they do unto you.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 15th 08 01:17 AM

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to enlightenment.


That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.


Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.

JoeSpareBedroom January 15th 08 01:18 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:56:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.


There aren't any texts as such - it's more of a philosophy.

The main tenant is do unto others before they do unto you.



That's a long name for a tenant. How did he/she fit it all on the rental
application?



Short Wave Sportfishing January 15th 08 01:21 AM

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:03:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.

I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.


That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.


Yes, it is an historical document but, I was written somewhat poetically
and thus can't be followed to the letter. I tried to follow it literally
and wound up on a hill beneath a tree naked and cooing. I started at
mid-night and I had lost my clothes along the way. When the police
picked me up they didn't take me home.


That's a result of drinking Navy Torpedo Juice. :)

~~ which, as I remember, involved raisins, orange peels, pineapple
juice and ethyl alcohol ~~

Calif Bill January 15th 08 01:36 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:58:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:57:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

I can understand why people are atheist, agnostic and deists.

How do you feel about worshippers of Transcendental Meditative
Catholic Buddhist Fundamentalist Evolutionary Space Monkeys?

If you weren't a fundamentalist it might be attractive.

I don't understand your response. I am sure it is me, but please
explain.


I don't believe that the Evolutionary Space Monkeys intended their
sacred texts to be literally followed, it is more a guide to
enlightenment.


That is one school of thought, but I disagree it is a historical
document that should be literally followed.


Monkeys can't write, therefore there are no documents - historical or
otherwise.


But that does not seem right. As an infinite number of monkeys could
produce Shakespeare, why not tennents of ESM.s?




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