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[email protected] January 9th 08 02:16 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 6:45*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:43:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 8, 2:13*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:10:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


wrote:


Mass produced Mexican beer is as thrilling as mass produced American
beer.


Isn't that south-of-the-border sop called "El Swillio?"


I have always considered the X's on the label to be a warning.


We drank the **** when we were 16...


And it shows!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Nope, the mexican **** was just the chaser. If anything it's the Black
Label Beam showing;)

Short Wave Sportfishing January 9th 08 02:23 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Yes.

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. :)

There is a reason why they call them C RATS.

And it has nothing to do with the C RATS being shorthand for Canned
Rations.

As far as the MRE's go, the Mac and Cheese is really good and believe
it or not, the Vegetarian MRE is excellent.

The Beef Stew ain't too bad either.

Vic Smith January 9th 08 03:50 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:23:51 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Yes.

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. :)

I had some what I believed to be WWII C-rats. This was probably '62.
All I remember a little piece of chocolate and hard-tack like cracker
which were barely edible. Didn't even try anything else in the
package.

--Vic

Tim January 9th 08 04:04 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 6:42*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H



Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!

Tim January 9th 08 04:11 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 8:23*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Yes.

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. *:)



tom, if you cold get your hands on a carton or pack of WWII vintage
Old Gold's you could move to eastern europe flat broke and be uber-
rich. Well, at least you could have before theSoviet Bloc fell
apart. Right after WWII Old Gold sigs,were handled on the balck
market better than currency. you did'nt dare open a pack. If you
wanted to get to the head of the soup line or get an extra loaf of
stale bread and less watered down potato soup, all you had to do was
have a beat up, yet unopened pack of OG's, hand it to the Kommissar in
charge, and you went to the head of the line. No Kidding!

Tim January 9th 08 04:16 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 8:23*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. *:)



I still have a few packs of 1st Cav. "death cards" around here
somewhere... Duvall ain't getting mine!

CalifBill January 9th 08 06:39 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Yes.

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. :)

There is a reason why they call them C RATS.

And it has nothing to do with the C RATS being shorthand for Canned
Rations.

As far as the MRE's go, the Mac and Cheese is really good and believe
it or not, the Vegetarian MRE is excellent.

The Beef Stew ain't too bad either.


MRE's? What are those? C RAT's What are those? Never saw any in the
Fighting Air Force.



Jim January 9th 08 11:08 AM

Our Friend Stumpy
 

"CalifBill" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Yes.

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. :)

There is a reason why they call them C RATS.

And it has nothing to do with the C RATS being shorthand for Canned
Rations.

As far as the MRE's go, the Mac and Cheese is really good and believe
it or not, the Vegetarian MRE is excellent.

The Beef Stew ain't too bad either.


MRE's? What are those? C RAT's What are those? Never saw any in the
Fighting Air Force.

Of course not. You always made it home for the dinner bell, didn't you.
Jim USN


John H.[_3_] January 9th 08 12:02 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:40:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

My last beer was in Dec, '87.

I'm allergic to alcoholic.
--
John H



Me too. It makes my belly swell.

Eisboch


Headaches, heartburn, slurring of speech, double vision, halitosis, loss of
motor skills, etc. Alcohol allergy is a bitch.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H.[_3_] January 9th 08 12:04 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 8, 6:42*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H



Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 9th 08 01:00 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:40:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
My last beer was in Dec, '87.

I'm allergic to alcoholic.
--
John H


Me too. It makes my belly swell.

Eisboch


Headaches, heartburn, slurring of speech, double vision, halitosis, loss of
motor skills, etc. Alcohol allergy is a bitch.


Damn, and I always thought it was the ice that caused that problem.




Tim January 9th 08 01:07 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. "ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" you still got a good p-38?

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 8, 6:42?pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59?pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.

Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. ?I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.

--Vic

I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!

Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H



Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


[email protected] January 9th 08 01:23 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 6:34*pm, wrote:
On Jan 8, 10:11*am, "Eisboch" wrote:





wrote in message


...


One of the better light swiling style american lights. I brew beer,
and have for many years, have even taken classes, but I'm sure that
Harry knows much more about the subject than I.


----------------------------------


IMO, the best tasting American beer that came out of the microbrewery crowd
is Samuel Adams Lager. *Very similar to some of the good, German,
full-bodied beers. *Even the "light" version isn't bad, although it has more
calories than most other "regular" beers.


Second best American beer, although not originating from a microbrewery, is
"Amberboch", *an Anheuser-Busch product. *Not available everywhere, the
draft version is much better than the bottled.


Unfortunately, I finally hit the age where I can't drink either anymore.
Too heavy. *An occasional Coors Light is about all I can handle now.


Eisboch


I have a neat little Austrailian Ale that I brew, it is everyones
favorite even my American Lager friends love it. Very light, but with
taste and body, it is by Coopers. My sil and kid love Sam Adams so we
got them a bottle of Sam Adams Utopia for a wedding present, very
interesting, we have not opended it yet. It is an uncarbonated special
limited brew that comes in a ceramic and bronze bottle with a hologram
label.. They like stuff like that. I really don't drink more than a 6
or two a year, but I might 15 or more gallons of beer, I give it away,
and use it for gifts and stuff. My neighbors usually get most of it;)
I just like to brew, it is kinda' like smoking meat..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When ya going to start all grain brewing?? It's a big step up in
quality, just compare extract/all grain to store bought/homebrew.

[email protected] January 9th 08 01:26 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 5:59*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


WHoa.......... Harry stooping so low as to eat a grilled cheese
sandwich? Harry who is so sophisticated that he won't eat any seafood
except fresh, won't drink a cold beer with friends, won't own any boat
except a Parker, has the best computer in the world, the best printer,
is the only person who can run Vista with no problems, knows
everything there is to know about beer, about politics, about boats,
about building boats, about structural engineering, about trucks?

John H.[_3_] January 9th 08 01:32 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. "ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" you still got a good p-38?

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 8, 6:42?pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59?pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.

Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. ?I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.

--Vic

I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!

Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H


Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] January 9th 08 01:35 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 3:40*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.

--Vic


It's fantastic, you'd love it. Start with extract, they basically boil
the grains for you and then can it after removing much of the water.
Here's a good place to get kits that include everything except the
bottles, including the caps. You can get a basic brewing kit like
this:
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_...T_P680C156.cfm

then look for an ingredient kit.
Cheese making sounds alot like homebrewing, so you'll be golden. Same
rules as far as sanitation.

[email protected] January 9th 08 01:36 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 8, 3:40*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.

--Vic


Oh, and if you have a local hombrew supply place, please consider
getting your equipment and extract kits from them. They are
independents, need the business, and besides that, homebrewers love to
share their knowledge to people who aren't so arrogant so as to not
listen. You'll learn alot at your local shop if you have one.

Tim January 9th 08 02:15 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 9, 7:32*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. *"ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" *you still got a good p-38?


John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


On Jan 8, 6:42?pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59?pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. ?I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H


Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


amazing simplicity, arn't they???

BAR January 9th 08 02:34 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. "ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" you still got a good p-38?


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.


It's called a John Wayne and I still have mine although from a Vietnam
era box of C-rats consumed in the very early 80's.


[email protected] January 9th 08 02:37 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 9, 8:23*am, wrote:
On Jan 8, 6:34*pm, wrote:





On Jan 8, 10:11*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


....


One of the better light swiling style american lights. I brew beer,
and have for many years, have even taken classes, but I'm sure that
Harry knows much more about the subject than I.


----------------------------------


IMO, the best tasting American beer that came out of the microbrewery crowd
is Samuel Adams Lager. *Very similar to some of the good, German,
full-bodied beers. *Even the "light" version isn't bad, although it has more
calories than most other "regular" beers.


Second best American beer, although not originating from a microbrewery, is
"Amberboch", *an Anheuser-Busch product. *Not available everywhere, the
draft version is much better than the bottled.


Unfortunately, I finally hit the age where I can't drink either anymore.
Too heavy. *An occasional Coors Light is about all I can handle now.


Eisboch


I have a neat little Austrailian Ale that I brew, it is everyones
favorite even my American Lager friends love it. Very light, but with
taste and body, it is by Coopers. My sil and kid love Sam Adams so we
got them a bottle of Sam Adams Utopia for a wedding present, very
interesting, we have not opended it yet. It is an uncarbonated special
limited brew that comes in a ceramic and bronze bottle with a hologram
label.. They like stuff like that. I really don't drink more than a 6
or two a year, but I might 15 or more gallons of beer, I give it away,
and use it for gifts and stuff. My neighbors usually get most of it;)
I just like to brew, it is kinda' like smoking meat..- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


When ya going to start all grain brewing?? It's a big step up in
quality, just compare extract/all grain to store bought/homebrew.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bring your maple stick and a bag o hops and I will be here waiting;)

[email protected] January 9th 08 02:40 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 9, 9:37*am, wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:23*am, wrote:





On Jan 8, 6:34*pm, wrote:


On Jan 8, 10:11*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message


...


One of the better light swiling style american lights. I brew beer,
and have for many years, have even taken classes, but I'm sure that
Harry knows much more about the subject than I.


----------------------------------


IMO, the best tasting American beer that came out of the microbrewery crowd
is Samuel Adams Lager. *Very similar to some of the good, German,
full-bodied beers. *Even the "light" version isn't bad, although it has more
calories than most other "regular" beers.


Second best American beer, although not originating from a microbrewery, is
"Amberboch", *an Anheuser-Busch product. *Not available everywhere, the
draft version is much better than the bottled.


Unfortunately, I finally hit the age where I can't drink either anymore.
Too heavy. *An occasional Coors Light is about all I can handle now.


Eisboch


I have a neat little Austrailian Ale that I brew, it is everyones
favorite even my American Lager friends love it. Very light, but with
taste and body, it is by Coopers. My sil and kid love Sam Adams so we
got them a bottle of Sam Adams Utopia for a wedding present, very
interesting, we have not opended it yet. It is an uncarbonated special
limited brew that comes in a ceramic and bronze bottle with a hologram
label.. They like stuff like that. I really don't drink more than a 6
or two a year, but I might 15 or more gallons of beer, I give it away,
and use it for gifts and stuff. My neighbors usually get most of it;)
I just like to brew, it is kinda' like smoking meat..- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


When ya going to start all grain brewing?? It's a big step up in
quality, just compare extract/all grain to store bought/homebrew.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Bring your maple stick and a bag o hops and I will be here waiting;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, BTW, I got a stack of nice maple. If I ever get around to making
those stirrers I will send you one..

Vic Smith January 9th 08 02:48 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:36:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 8, 3:40*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.

--Vic


Oh, and if you have a local hombrew supply place, please consider
getting your equipment and extract kits from them. They are
independents, need the business, and besides that, homebrewers love to
share their knowledge to people who aren't so arrogant so as to not
listen. You'll learn alot at your local shop if you have one.


Thanks for the advice Loogy. I'm getting thirsty now.

--Vic

John H.[_3_] January 9th 08 02:54 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 9, 7:32*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. *"ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" *you still got a good p-38?


John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


On Jan 8, 6:42?pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59?pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. ?I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H


Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


amazing simplicity, arn't they???


Yup. And they work for decades.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H.[_3_] January 9th 08 02:59 PM

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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:34:13 -0500, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. "ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" you still got a good p-38?


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.


It's called a John Wayne and I still have mine although from a Vietnam
era box of C-rats consumed in the very early 80's.


I never called mine a John Wayne. In fact, I've never heard that. I wonder
if it's a Marine thing.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] January 9th 08 05:39 PM

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On Jan 9, 9:48*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:36:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 8, 3:40*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. *I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


Oh, and if you have a local hombrew supply place, please consider
getting your equipment and extract kits from them. They are
independents, need the business, and besides that, homebrewers love to
share their knowledge to people who aren't so arrogant so as to not
listen. You'll learn alot at your local shop if you have one.


Thanks for the advice Loogy. *I'm getting thirsty now.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

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Anytime. Let me know if you have any questions, etc. Also check out:
http://www.byo.com/


CalifBill January 9th 08 06:22 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!

Yes.

Believe it or not, I have a package of pre-Korean War Camel cigarettes
and several packages of green package WWII Lucky Strikes that - get
this - in Vietnam. :)

There is a reason why they call them C RATS.

And it has nothing to do with the C RATS being shorthand for Canned
Rations.

As far as the MRE's go, the Mac and Cheese is really good and believe
it or not, the Vegetarian MRE is excellent.

The Beef Stew ain't too bad either.


MRE's? What are those? C RAT's What are those? Never saw any in the
Fighting Air Force.

Of course not. You always made it home for the dinner bell, didn't you.
Jim USN

Nope, we always took the kichen and sink with us. :



CalifBill January 9th 08 06:28 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Jan 8, 3:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.

--Vic


It's fantastic, you'd love it. Start with extract, they basically boil
the grains for you and then can it after removing much of the water.
Here's a good place to get kits that include everything except the
bottles, including the caps. You can get a basic brewing kit like
this:
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_...T_P680C156.cfm

then look for an ingredient kit.
Cheese making sounds alot like homebrewing, so you'll be golden. Same
rules as far as sanitation.

When I used to go to England on business, the Boot's Pharmacy chain carried
about 30 feet of shelf space of different brewing kits. Any variety you
could imagine. Came with the Canned Wort, and a packet of yeast. Made a
few different varieties. Some better than the others. But the local
microbrews are better. And a lot easier. Only problem was the first time I
made beer, forgot an English pint is bigger than an american pint. Ran out
of bottles.



[email protected] January 9th 08 06:31 PM

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On Jan 9, 1:28*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 8, 3:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


It's fantastic, you'd love it. Start with extract, they basically boil
the grains for you and then can it after removing much of the water.
Here's a good place to get kits that include everything except the
bottles, including the caps. You can get a basic brewing kit like
this:http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_...T_P680C156.cfm

then look for an ingredient kit.
Cheese making sounds alot like homebrewing, so you'll be golden. Same
rules as far as sanitation.

When I used to go to England on business, the Boot's Pharmacy chain carried
about 30 feet of shelf space of different brewing kits. *Any variety you
could imagine. *Came with the Canned Wort,

That'd be extract, if it were the wort, it'd be the full volume, five
gallons or so.


and a packet of yeast. *Made a
few different varieties. *Some better than the others. *But the local
microbrews are better. *And a lot easier. *Only problem was the first time I
made beer, forgot an English pint is bigger than an american pint. *Ran out
of bottles.



[email protected] January 9th 08 07:03 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 9, 1:31*pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 1:28*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:



wrote in message


...
On Jan 8, 3:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:


On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


It's fantastic, you'd love it. Start with extract, they basically boil
the grains for you and then can it after removing much of the water.
Here's a good place to get kits that include everything except the
bottles, including the caps. You can get a basic brewing kit like
this:http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_...T_P680C156.cfm


then look for an ingredient kit.
Cheese making sounds alot like homebrewing, so you'll be golden. Same
rules as far as sanitation.


When I used to go to England on business, the Boot's Pharmacy chain carried
about 30 feet of shelf space of different brewing kits. *Any variety you
could imagine. *Came with the Canned Wort,


That'd be extract, if it were the wort, it'd be the full volume, five
gallons or so.

*and a packet of yeast. *Made a



few different varieties. *Some better than the others. *But the local
microbrews are better. *And a lot easier. *Only problem was the first time I
made beer, forgot an English pint is bigger than an american pint. *Ran out
of bottles.- Hide quoted text -


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My first experience was with a 25 dollar "Mr. Beer" (TM) kit from
spencers, or kmart. It is a quick easy way to see if you like brewing,
all you add is the bottles, the first batch ingredients are in the
box.

Of course, you can also see them at:

http://www.mrbeer.com/

again, a cheap, quick way to get your feet wet without spending about
100 dollars for a cheap 5 gallon setup with a couple of buckets,
thermometer, airtrap, hydrometer, and a few other gadgets just for a
basic batch. Well worth it if you start brewing, but for 25 bucks or
so you can try it first.

[email protected] January 9th 08 07:13 PM

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On Jan 9, 2:03*pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 1:31*pm, wrote:





On Jan 9, 1:28*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:


wrote in message


....
On Jan 8, 3:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:


On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


It's fantastic, you'd love it. Start with extract, they basically boil
the grains for you and then can it after removing much of the water.
Here's a good place to get kits that include everything except the
bottles, including the caps. You can get a basic brewing kit like
this:http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_...T_P680C156.cfm


then look for an ingredient kit.
Cheese making sounds alot like homebrewing, so you'll be golden. Same
rules as far as sanitation.


When I used to go to England on business, the Boot's Pharmacy chain carried
about 30 feet of shelf space of different brewing kits. *Any variety you
could imagine. *Came with the Canned Wort,


That'd be extract, if it were the wort, it'd be the full volume, five
gallons or so.


*and a packet of yeast. *Made a


few different varieties. *Some better than the others. *But the local
microbrews are better. *And a lot easier. *Only problem was the first time I
made beer, forgot an English pint is bigger than an american pint. *Ran out
of bottles.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


My first experience was with a 25 dollar "Mr. Beer" (TM) kit from
spencers, or kmart. It is a quick easy way to see if you like brewing,
all you add is the bottles, the first batch ingredients are in the
box.

Of course, you can also see them at:

http://www.mrbeer.com/

again, a cheap, quick way to get your feet wet without spending about
100 dollars for a cheap 5 gallon setup with a couple of buckets,
thermometer, airtrap, hydrometer, and a few other gadgets just for a
basic batch. Well worth it if you start brewing, but for 25 bucks or
so you can try it first.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I got started in CA, I had read about it, then went to a homebrewers
club and was hooked! Now I do all grain, and that is just so cool, you
learn every time you brew or talk to all grain brewers. I still do
extracts when I see a recipe I'd like to try, or I'll do a five gallon
batch of extract that I've changed up and don't exactly know the
results! When and if you get into all grain, you'll see a difference
right away. You'll know that doing this or doing that will result in
this change. I've got some cool software to help you along if you ever
decide to go that way. I also have some software that will change an
all grain recipe to extract!

-rick- January 10th 08 04:38 AM

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Eisboch wrote:

IMO, the best tasting American beer that came out of the microbrewery crowd
is Samuel Adams Lager. Very similar to some of the good, German,
full-bodied beers. Even the "light" version isn't bad, although it has more
calories than most other "regular" beers.


I've been enjoying these lately. (1 a night)

http://www.rogue.com/brews.html#deadguy

[email protected] January 10th 08 01:43 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 9, 11:38*pm, -rick- wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
IMO, the best tasting American beer that came out of the microbrewery crowd
is Samuel Adams Lager. *Very similar to some of the good, German,
full-bodied beers. *Even the "light" version isn't bad, although it has more
calories than most other "regular" beers.


I've been enjoying these lately. (1 a night)

http://www.rogue.com/brews.html#deadguy


I've met John Maier, the brewmaster at Rogue.

[email protected] January 10th 08 01:44 PM

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On Jan 9, 9:54*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 9, 7:32*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. *"ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" *you still got a good p-38?


John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


On Jan 8, 6:42?pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59?pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. ?I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -


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did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H


Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.
--
John H


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


amazing simplicity, arn't they???


Yup. And they work for decades.
--
John H

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I like the P-51's they're bigger.

John H.[_3_] January 10th 08 07:20 PM

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:44:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 9, 9:54*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 9, 7:32*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 05:07:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
John, next time I go to the army surplus store, I'll see if they have
a few cans for you. *"ate codes? we don't need no stinkin' date
codes!" *you still got a good p-38?


John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


On Jan 8, 6:42?pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:32:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 8, 4:59?pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:34:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Well, they are consistent enough after the recipes are finalized. When
brewing, changing one little thing can change the taste entirely, even
a different type of yeast. But, Harry thinks it's all just throwing
stuff in a bathtub and getting beer.


Sounds like fun brewing your own beer. ?I might try it.
Use the site you posted as a starting point.
I made a Colby cheese once, from a kit.
Took about 2 gallons of milk to make a pound.
It was actually pretty good, but a bit rubbery.


--Vic


I made a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch the other day. You know, if
you don't get the bacteria in the cheese just right, and use the right
amount of yeast in the bread, well, who knows what ratings you might
from other sandwich eaters.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


did you ever eat C-rations? I can tell you first had how they rate!


Beans and ham. YUMMY!!
--
John H


Spam and survival biscuits for you, buddy!


Not much better eatin' than spam, biscuits, and Tobasco.
--
John H


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


My Vietnam P-38 is still on my key chain.
--
John H


"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


amazing simplicity, arn't they???


Yup. And they work for decades.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I like the P-51's they're bigger.


Hanging 'em on a key chain is a bitch though!
--
John H

Tim January 10th 08 08:23 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 


John H. wrote:

I like the P-51's they're bigger.


Hanging 'em on a key chain is a bitch though!
--
John H


And they don't open cans very well either...

[email protected] January 10th 08 08:41 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 10, 3:23*pm, Tim wrote:
John H. wrote:

I like the P-51's they're bigger.


Hanging 'em on a key chain is a bitch though!
--
John H


And they don't open cans very well either...


Uh.....guys......

http://www.dogtagsrus.com/p-51%20can...nformation.htm

http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml

THAT was the John Wayne.

John H.[_3_] January 10th 08 09:23 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 10, 3:23*pm, Tim wrote:
John H. wrote:

I like the P-51's they're bigger.


Hanging 'em on a key chain is a bitch though!
--
John H


And they don't open cans very well either...


Uh.....guys......

http://www.dogtagsrus.com/p-51%20can...nformation.htm

http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml

THAT was the John Wayne.


It's too damn big!

It's made for big cans. I remember seeing them, now that you showed the
site, but they're about the size of a dog tag, as I recall.
--
John H

[email protected] January 10th 08 09:23 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 
On Jan 10, 4:23*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 10, 3:23*pm, Tim wrote:
John H. wrote:


I like the P-51's they're bigger.


Hanging 'em on a key chain is a bitch though!
--
John H


And they don't open cans very well either...


Uh.....guys......


http://www.dogtagsrus.com/p-51%20can...%20information...


http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml


THAT was the John Wayne.


It's too damn big!

It's made for big cans. I remember seeing them, now that you showed the
site, but they're about the size of a dog tag, as I recall.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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That's the one!

Tim January 10th 08 09:54 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 


wrote:
http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml

"11. Decisions made by someone over your head will seldom be in your
best interest."

They have that one right!


Tim January 10th 08 10:02 PM

Our Friend Stumpy
 


wrote:
On Jan 10, 4:23?pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:41:35 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 10, 3:23?pm, Tim wrote:
John H. wrote:


I like the P-51's they're bigger.


Hanging 'em on a key chain is a bitch though!
--
John H


And they don't open cans very well either...


Uh.....guys......


http://www.dogtagsrus.com/p-51%20can...%20information...


http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml


THAT was the John Wayne.


It's too damn big!

It's made for big cans. I remember seeing them, now that you showed the
site, but they're about the size of a dog tag, as I recall.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's the one!


When i said they don't open cans very well, I wasn't talling about an
airplane. I DID know what the p-51 can opener was. But thats just it.
On C-RATS, if you poked into the can ahrd enough with it sittin on an
unstable surface, you could gouge not only thought the top of the can,
but also gouge though the side of it, maybe flip the can and
especially put a nick in your leg or hand, (if used for a base) .

On Manila, a friend of mine always carried a "51" ...just in case"
especially where he was going on a Saturday night!


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