On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:01:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We've already seen what happens when a president uses faith instead of
reason to formulate policy.

You are not aware of this defect, but other people are.

Ever been in an airplane and suddenly the lights dim, the plane banks
sharply and the engines cut out?

Betcha find religion real fast.

Eisboch (just a joke)

No - it's not a joke - it's a fact.

I've seen it happen to some very hardcore athesists.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:01:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ever been in an airplane and suddenly the lights dim, the plane banks
sharply and the engines cut out?

Betcha find religion real fast.

Eisboch (just a joke)

No - it's not a joke - it's a fact.

I've seen it happen to some very hardcore athesists.

You think panic and desperation improve decision making ability?

I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their
own or loved ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief.

"-rick-" wrote in message
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I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their own or loved
ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief.

I think you just hit the nail on the head, rick. It's the common thread
throughout all the world's religions.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their own or loved
ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief.

I think you just hit the nail on the head, rick. It's the common thread
throughout all the world's religions.

Eisboch

I should have said "face *our* own..."

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"-rick-" wrote in message
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I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their own or loved
ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief.

I think you just hit the nail on the head, rick. It's the common thread
throughout all the world's religions.

Eisboch


That, and the fact that some people are very uncomfortable if they don't
have answers to all of life's questions. So, they answer them by assigning
yet another mystery.

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:54:23 -0800, -rick- wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:01:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ever been in an airplane and suddenly the lights dim, the plane banks
sharply and the engines cut out?

Betcha find religion real fast.

Eisboch (just a joke)

No - it's not a joke - it's a fact.

I've seen it happen to some very hardcore athesists.

You think panic and desperation improve decision making ability?

Interesting way to put it.

I my experience, yes. Self preservations is a powerful survival
motive.

I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their
own or loved ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief.

For certain personalities, I would agree.

However, belief in an afterlife and belief in a Creator don't
necessarily go hand-in-hand.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their
own or loved ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief.

For certain personalities, I would agree.

However, belief in an afterlife and belief in a Creator don't
necessarily go hand-in-hand.


I think it's just as difficult to believe in "nothing" as it is to believe
in "something" .... maybe even more difficult. To believe in something is
the default condition of the human mind I suspect, regardless of any
religious brain washing that occurs during a lifetime.

When my head is in logic mode none of the religious teachings and/or
explanations make any sense in terms of creation. I can even understand and
accept the concept of "nothing" after death.

But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter
the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting
in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond
my comprehension so far.

Meanwhile, religion serves many people well and I, for one, have no problem
with that. I respect the right to their beliefs.

There's another current issue somewhat related to this, but I'll present
that in another post sometime.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter
the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting
in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond
my comprehension so far.

The big bang would definitely qualify as a "greater power".

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:50:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter
the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting
in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond
my comprehension so far.

I agree.

Somebody had to light the match. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:50:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter
the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang",
resulting
in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond
my comprehension so far.

I agree.

Somebody had to light the match. :)

Even Einstein couldn't answer that one.

Hey, next time you a chatting with some of your "other world" friends, run
it by them and find out what their take is on the question.

Eisboch