"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:03:28 -0500, HK wrote:


Besides, Obama merely attends the church; he isn't its pastor or its
former pastor, nor is he out praising Jesus or thanking heaven on a
public, daily basis for his political successes.

"Moreover, it's wrong to ask believers to leave their religion at the
door before entering the public square. Abraham Lincoln, William
Jennings Bryan, Martin Luther King Jr. — indeed, the majority of great
reformers in American history — were not only motivated by faith, they
also used religious language to argue for their cause. To say men and
women should not inject their "personal morality" into policy debates
is a practical absurdity; our law is by definition a codification of
morality."

Barak Obama, USA Today, 7/10/2006


So?

There's no conflict in the two statements. Obama isn't shoveling religion,
and neither did Lincoln or King. Bryan, of course, did.


Is Huckabee?

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:03:28 -0500, HK wrote:


Besides, Obama merely attends the church; he isn't its pastor or its
former pastor, nor is he out praising Jesus or thanking heaven on a
public, daily basis for his political successes.

"Moreover, it's wrong to ask believers to leave their religion at the
door before entering the public square. Abraham Lincoln, William
Jennings Bryan, Martin Luther King Jr. — indeed, the majority of great
reformers in American history — were not only motivated by faith, they
also used religious language to argue for their cause. To say men and
women should not inject their "personal morality" into policy debates
is a practical absurdity; our law is by definition a codification of
morality."

Barak Obama, USA Today, 7/10/2006


So?

There's no conflict in the two statements. Obama isn't shoveling
religion, and neither did Lincoln or King. Bryan, of course, did.


Is Huckabee?

Eisboch


It's his sponsors. They poisoned him. Hmm....interesting theory. Who do his
sponsors really want?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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There's no conflict in the two statements. Obama isn't shoveling
religion, and neither did Lincoln or King. Bryan, of course, did.


Is Huckabee?

Eisboch


It's his sponsors. They poisoned him. Hmm....interesting theory. Who do
his sponsors really want?


Hmmmm. "His sponsors". So, it's not Huckabee you dislike or distrust.
It's those nameless "sponsors". Now, who would *they* be?

Oh, I know! Keith Olberman told me. It's those pesky evangelicals. They
do it everytime.
I wonder if Huckabee is aware of this?

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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There's no conflict in the two statements. Obama isn't shoveling
religion, and neither did Lincoln or King. Bryan, of course, did.


Is Huckabee?

Eisboch


It's his sponsors. They poisoned him. Hmm....interesting theory. Who do
his sponsors really want?


Hmmmm. "His sponsors". So, it's not Huckabee you dislike or distrust.
It's those nameless "sponsors". Now, who would *they* be?

Oh, I know! Keith Olberman told me. It's those pesky evangelicals.
They do it everytime.
I wonder if Huckabee is aware of this?

Eisboch



"This God stuff isn't just talk with Huck. One of his first acts as governor
was to block Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally retarded
teen*ager who had been raped by her stepfather — an act in direct violation
of federal law, which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape.
"The state didn't fund a single such abortion while Huckabee was governor,"
says Dr. William Harrison of the Fayetteville Women's Clinic. "Zero."

As president, Huck would support a constitutional amendment banning abortion
and would give science a back seat to religion. "Science changes with every
generation and with new discoveries, and God doesn't," he says. "So I'll
stick with God if the two are in conflict." Huckabee's
well-documented *disdain for science was reflected in the performance of the
Arkansas school system when he was governor; one independent survey gave the
state an F for its science standards in schools, a grade that among other
things reflected Huckabee's hostility toward the teaching of evolution.

Huckabee at most times is gentle and self-deprecating in his public address,
but when he talks about religion, he gets weirdly combative and obnoxious,
often drifting into outright offensiveness. At one appearance, Huckabee —
who's been known to make fart jokes in front of the state legislature — said
he would oppose gay marriage "until Moses comes down with two stone tablets
from Brokeback Mountain saying he's changed the rules." And he recently
scored a rare offend trifecta, simultaneously ****ing off immigrants, Jews
and the pro-choice crowd when he ludicrously claimed that a "holocaust" of
abortions had *artificially created a demand for Mexican labor.

Huckabee also has a televangelist's knack for getting caught with his
fingers in various cookie jars. In his first year as governor, Huck used a
$60,000 tax*payer fund for personal expenses like dog food, pantyhose and
meals at Taco Bell. (One of his sons — also a very heavy man, as his *father
was — reportedly joked that "there's not a Huckabee alive that can eat at
Taco Bell for seven dollars.") The governor also tried to keep $70,000 in
furnishings for the governor's mansion supplied by a local cotton grower,
and used inaugural funds to pay for clothes for his wife. "Mike is first and
foremost about Mike," says Brantley. "He'll nickel-and-dime whoever he can
to line his pockets." "