"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.



That sucks big time. Ford owes you a brand new truck or a full refund ....
your choice.

Eisboch

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:52:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .

had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

That sucks big time. Ford owes you a brand new truck or a full refund ....
your choice.

Yes and there are going to be discussions starting at 8 tomorrow
morning.

One I can understand - two, maybe.

Six in 20,000 miles? No Freakin Way.

The scary thing was the brakes - no warning, no nothing - just gone.
If I had been towing the Ranger, I would have killed somebody.

When I talked to the Service Manager, he mentioned something about
losing vacuum pressure. I said what? I'm trying to figure that one
out - brakes shouldn't be controlled by vacuum pressure - I always
thought they ran off the power steering assist pump.

The insult to injury part annoyed me - something broke in the engine
and it's related to the brakes. If it is a vacuum line, that's
bull**** and I'm getting a different truck.

The more I think about it the madder I'm getting.

Should never have sold the F-250.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:52:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..

had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

That sucks big time. Ford owes you a brand new truck or a full refund
....
your choice.

Yes and there are going to be discussions starting at 8 tomorrow
morning.

One I can understand - two, maybe.

Six in 20,000 miles? No Freakin Way.

The scary thing was the brakes - no warning, no nothing - just gone.
If I had been towing the Ranger, I would have killed somebody.

When I talked to the Service Manager, he mentioned something about
losing vacuum pressure. I said what? I'm trying to figure that one
out - brakes shouldn't be controlled by vacuum pressure - I always
thought they ran off the power steering assist pump.

The insult to injury part annoyed me - something broke in the engine
and it's related to the brakes. If it is a vacuum line, that's
bull**** and I'm getting a different truck.

The more I think about it the madder I'm getting.

Should never have sold the F-250.

Vaccum pressure? Wassat.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

When I talked to the Service Manager, he mentioned something about
losing vacuum pressure. I said what? I'm trying to figure that one
out - brakes shouldn't be controlled by vacuum pressure - I always
thought they ran off the power steering assist pump.


It's not "vacuum pressure", but doesn't the power brake system operate off
of engine vacuum? I haven't checked new vehicles but I think the older ones
did.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
When I talked to the Service Manager, he mentioned something about
losing vacuum pressure. I said what? I'm trying to figure that one
out - brakes shouldn't be controlled by vacuum pressure - I always
thought they ran off the power steering assist pump.


It's not "vacuum pressure", but doesn't the power brake system operate off
of engine vacuum? I haven't checked new vehicles but I think the older ones
did.

The newer ones do run off of vacuum pressure.

On Dec 27, 8:58*pm, BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
When I talked to the Service Manager, he mentioned something about
losing vacuum pressure. *I said what? *I'm trying to figure that one
out - brakes shouldn't be controlled by vacuum pressure - I always
thought they ran off the power steering assist pump.

It's not "vacuum pressure", but doesn't the power brake system operate off
of engine vacuum? *I haven't checked new vehicles but I think the older ones
did.

The newer ones do run off of vacuum pressure.

Off a vacuum pump.

On Dec 27, 8:08*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Should never have sold the F-250.-

I thought it got total'd out?

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.



That sucks big time. Ford owes you a brand new truck or a full refund ....
your choice.

Eisboch




I would definitely check the lemon laws in your state.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

I am looking at GMC though.



So, just for comic relief, have they explained the causes of these problems
yet? And, when will you driving it through the dealership's front window, a
la Dirty Harry?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood.

Some sort of fault in the vacuum operated brake-booster?