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HK December 26th 07 05:31 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while
you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals
you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.

Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?


Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.



I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years
ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED.





Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the
world create just for fun.

[email protected] December 26th 07 05:35 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:25:34 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


And yet, many people use it for years with no problems whatsoever. Me,
for instance. I wonder if it's wrong to place all the blame for problems
on just one program, when in fact, many users have no clue about
protecting their computers, so OE or not, they're going to experience
problems.


If you're happy, I'm happy. I'd just like to make one point, though.
The internet is the main source of malware these days. It would only
seem prudent that programs that interface with the internet, email
clients and browsers say, should be as secure as possible. Adding HTML
capabilities to an email client just seems stupid to me. Does anyone
besides spammers use HTML email?

John H. December 26th 07 05:36 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:29:51 -0500, HK wrote:

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while
you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals
you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.

Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?

Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.



I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years
ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED.




I personally witnessed Jesus restoring the hymens of prostitutes at The
Fuzzy Bunny Ranch out in Nevada.


Posts like that will earn you a lot of respect, Harry.
--
John H

John H. December 26th 07 05:37 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:08:01 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:30:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
No snow here yet... :}


I wish there wasn't any snow.

Interesting factoid: I was visiting my good friend down at Foskett
Equipment this morning on an issue I'm having with a carb icing up on
one of my snow blowers (older machine - no heat shield) and as of the
last snow storm, he had 47 brand new snow blowers in his shop.

As of this morning, zip - nada - zero.

Sold all 47 in three days.



Since you are semi snowbound, now is the time to build that fishing rod.


....and suffer the denigrating of same when it's finished.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom December 26th 07 06:00 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car
while you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals
you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.

Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?

Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.



I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several
years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY
WITNESSED.




Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the
world create just for fun.



The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain
and configure his/her antivirus software.



JoeSpareBedroom December 26th 07 06:02 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:25:34 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


And yet, many people use it for years with no problems whatsoever. Me,
for instance. I wonder if it's wrong to place all the blame for problems
on just one program, when in fact, many users have no clue about
protecting their computers, so OE or not, they're going to experience
problems.


If you're happy, I'm happy. I'd just like to make one point, though.
The internet is the main source of malware these days. It would only
seem prudent that programs that interface with the internet, email
clients and browsers say, should be as secure as possible. Adding HTML
capabilities to an email client just seems stupid to me. Does anyone
besides spammers use HTML email?



Does that depend on how you define HTML email? For instance, I get email
from Barnes & Noble, with pictures, and various parts of the pictures
contain links to different web pages. Is that HTML mail? If so, there are
plenty of non-spam uses for it.



JoeSpareBedroom December 26th 07 06:03 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:11:13 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:34:08 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following

But not using Outlook
Express is the way to go. It's just awful.


Why is it awful?


Besides being virus prone.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUTAJsfw2-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SVe...eature=related
http://www.robneville.net/general/ou...-tool/2007/06/


Does Agent handle tasks & day planning? I'm wondering because I thought
it
was just a news & email client. If that's the case, I must question why
you
posted the links above. How can you compare the two programs by pointing
out
certain features which one of the programs doesn't even have? That's
like
saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're
going
to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.


Well, are we talking news reader or email client.

Thus far, I haven't seen a combination program I am happy with.
Outlook and Outlook Express try to be a vacuum cleaner and bagel
toaster and do a poor job of both.



Poor job HOW??? In what way? Be specific about OE in particular.


Ok.... I'm not sure how I can explain all of this. If you've never
been in a luxury car, you're probably going to stick up for the Yugo
because it is better than walking.

In general the Outlook(s) lack:

adaptable filtering
message templates
prevention of accidental deletion (parking)
(strong) encryption
macro capability



Accidental deletion of what? Email messages?





There are more things that I could add and you might respond that
Outlook has that.... but unless you see what *can* be done, you won't
know what I mean.

The Bat! is try-before-you-buy. Download it and try it... see what a
*full featured* email client offers. It has a learning curve... no
doubt.... but it offers a lot more than Outlook.... for me, its
organization capabilities initially sold me.

On the other hand.... if you are just looking for something that can
download the mail and down mind the exposure to viruses.... Outlook
might just be fine for you. Most software is good or sucks in the
eyes and demands of the user.... I want more than Outlook has to
offer.... and I don't want exposure to the host of security
vulnerabilities that Micro$oft has.




HK December 26th 07 06:11 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car
while you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals
you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.
Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?
Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.

I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several
years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY
WITNESSED.


Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the
world create just for fun.


The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain
and configure his/her antivirus software.


You can always tell when someone is really an expert. "Virii" is not
only not an English word, it's not a Latin word either.

The plural of virus in English is viruses.

As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad".

I have been unable to find any other references from reputable
sources, or should I say, "sourcii"?



D'oh.

Gee.

Whiz.

No.

Fun.

Allowed.

Virii is a fun word, dumbo.

[email protected] December 26th 07 06:11 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:02:14 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


Does that depend on how you define HTML email? For instance, I get email
from Barnes & Noble, with pictures, and various parts of the pictures
contain links to different web pages. Is that HTML mail? If so, there
are plenty of non-spam uses for it.


Some would argue Barnes & Noble is spam. Hey, I like the book store, but
I don't like their web bugs.

http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Marketing/web_bug.html

JoeSpareBedroom December 26th 07 06:14 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of
my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be
a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car
while you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for
meals
you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.

Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?

Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have
fun.


I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several
years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY
WITNESSED.



Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the
world create just for fun.



The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain
and configure his/her antivirus software.


You can always tell when someone is really an expert. "Virii" is not
only not an English word, it's not a Latin word either.

The plural of virus in English is viruses.

As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad".

I have been unable to find any other references from reputable
sources, or should I say, "sourcii"?



That certainly addressed the computer issue.




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