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JoeSpareBedroom December 27th 07 12:12 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:51:45 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:03:22 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:




Accidental deletion of what? Email messages?


Yes, although The Bat! has an available NNTP add-on, it just isn't a
news reader and I wouldn't recommend it as such....

Mail... for example, you can set the program to automatically delete
all mail over X days old, but the parked messages will not be deleted.
Messages can be parked and unparked manually or automatically, based
on highly configurable filters.



If I delete email from OE's inbox, it lands in the Deleted folder. Now,
there are two ways that folder can be emptied:

1) I set the "Delete on exit" option to do its thing. This can't be done
by
accident unless you're blind or illiterate.

2) I use 3 specific keystrokes to do it manually. If this happens, it's
because I wanted it to happen.

Neither is the fault of the program.


Give you an example....

Instead of fighting with one inbox....

if you sent me an email it would put the message into the folder
"Personal Correspondence" and sub-folder JoeSpareBedroom.

I have the option of making sure I save the item... say the word
"boat" is there. I could park the message, optionally play a sound,
and/or change the color or font.

If you sent it to my public boating email address, it would be saved
under that personna.... perhaps based on previous conditions it could
be archived in another personna.



Outlook Express can do all this, except (AFAIK) customizing sound for
certain emails.



It might even post itself to my
calendar for future action. Or certain information found in header or
body might cause the previously parked message to become of lesser
importance and become unparked.... or subject to automatic deletion at
the next purge cycle.



OE can't do this, because it's not designed for scheduling.



Mike[_6_] December 27th 07 01:09 AM

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Get a real news reader and dump Outlook Express for news. In fact,
you'd be well served to dump Outlook and/or Outlook Express even for
mail.

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.

--Mike

"HK" wrote in message
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:17:29 GMT, Mike Harrison penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Can anyone help me block these MI5 messages. I've tried using
M***5
as a subject line filter in Outlook Express (filtering the root
newsgroup
directory), but it doesn't do the job.



Get a real news reader and dump Outlook Express for news. In fact,
you'd be well served to dump Outlook and/or Outlook Express even for
mail.

In fact, house of you out there using Google Groups should make a new
year's resolution to start using a standards compliant news
reader.....



It's hard to dump Outlook if the company you work for is large and has it
integrated into its IT functions and services. But not using Outlook
Express is the way to go. It's just awful.




Mike[_6_] December 27th 07 01:12 AM

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Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.

Most people only post when they have problems... rarely when things are just
fine. I'm very confident there are far more folks in the latter group, than
the former...

--Mike

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a
pretty simple adaptation.

There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while
you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals
you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.



Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?



Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.




Mike[_6_] December 27th 07 01:14 AM

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I thought you sang hymans.... :-

--Mike

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would
interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These
were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car
while you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for
meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.

Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?

Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have
fun.


I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several
years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY
WITNESSED.



I personally witnessed Jesus restoring the hymens of prostitutes at The
Fuzzy Bunny Ranch out in Nevada.


Most of us do not frequent Houses of Ill Repute, so most here will miss
that experience of healing hymans.




Short Wave Sportfishing December 27th 07 02:03 AM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:09:53 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.


I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well. Also, a lot of the better .mp3, mp4 files have
been compressed using other than those recognised by MS.

I tried a few newsreaders, but settled on Forte' Agent. I've gotten
used to it, but it does have some strange "quirks".

Mike[_6_] December 27th 07 02:43 AM

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I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:09:53 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.


I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well. Also, a lot of the better .mp3, mp4 files have
been compressed using other than those recognised by MS.

I tried a few newsreaders, but settled on Forte' Agent. I've gotten
used to it, but it does have some strange "quirks".




Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 03:08 AM

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:11:23 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of
toasting
bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner.
I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the
muffler of my
lawn tractor.

Or at this time of year, my big snow blower.
Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner,
though.
Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me
to be a
pretty simple adaptation.
There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly
would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill
recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the
radiator of your car while you are driving.

Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were
for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine.
Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful?
Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and
have fun.
I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it
several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have
PERSONALLY WITNESSED.

Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around
the world create just for fun.
The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly
maintain and configure his/her antivirus software.
You can always tell when someone is really an expert. "Virii" is not
only not an English word, it's not a Latin word either.
The plural of virus in English is viruses.
As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad".
I have been unable to find any other references from reputable
sources, or should I say, "sourcii"?

D'oh.

Gee.

Whiz.

No.

Fun.

Allowed.

Virii is a fun word, dumbo.


A "fun word"?
Cite please!



http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/virii.html

http://membres.lycos.fr/asle/virii.2.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=virii



Next time, check your chops before you challenge mine.


The creation of plural forms by tongue-in-cheek stretching of English
plural 'rules' is popular among hackers, sometimes as a way of marking a
term as community jargon. See boxen and mouses for the most visible
examples. Other examples, whether widely used or not, are easily
recognized and deciphered, and it is well understood that these
irregular (or hyper-regular) plurals are not errors but examples of geek
humor.

As you pointed out, it is not accepted english, but street talk, HEY DOG!

HK December 27th 07 03:09 AM

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Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part

binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike



I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know
what the hell you are getting, quality-wise.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 03:09 AM

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly
maintain and configure his/her antivirus software.


Or because MS didn't properly secure their software. It's a circular
argument. You buy the latest and greatest operating system, then buy
the latest and greatest anti-virus and spy-killing software. It's a
scam, and you end up paying. gratuitous plug I haven't used any
anti-virus or any anti-spyware in about ten years, and I haven't had
any problems, but then, I use Linux. Oh, and it's free. /gratuitous
plug



Please let me know when there is a "linux" that as it installs itself,
finds *all* my computer hardware, printers, and other devices, and
automatically configures itself to communicate with them, no matter how
they are hooked up.

Then, please find for me "linux" equals of all the software I use.

I'll put you hold...

I tried ubuntu a few months ago. What a sack of trash that was.


Tell him how great Vista is.


sherwindu December 27th 07 07:23 AM

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WaIIy wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:17:29 GMT, "Mike Harrison"
wrote:

Can anyone help me block these MI5 messages. I've tried using
M***5
as a subject line filter in Outlook Express (filtering the root newsgroup
directory), but it doesn't do the job.



You really can't, he's too changeable.


I couldn't wade through all this thread, but I did try to set up a filter in
Mozilla and
Firefox. I couldn't get it to work, mainly because I couldn't get the wildcard
feature
to kick in. I need a filter that looks for "M", "I", and "5" in succession but
not
necessarily adjacent. Maybe this was already covered?



Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 09:20 AM

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Mike wrote:
Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.


Most people only post when they have problems... rarely when things are just
fine. I'm very confident there are far more folks in the latter group, than
the former...

--Mike


Type in "Vista Problems" and see what pops up.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 09:27 AM

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HK wrote:
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part

binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources,
not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing
is... except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike



I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.


You do know you are stealing intellectual property when you download
from those Russian sites. They DO NOT PAY royalties and have been the
bane of MPAA who are trying to close down these sites.

John H.[_2_] December 27th 07 10:36 AM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:03:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:09:53 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.


I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well. Also, a lot of the better .mp3, mp4 files have
been compressed using other than those recognised by MS.

I tried a few newsreaders, but settled on Forte' Agent. I've gotten
used to it, but it does have some strange "quirks".


I tried a new version a year or two ago and didn't like it. Too many
features. I'm back to 1.91, and have no problems with it. It works well, as
a newsreader.

Short Wave Sportfishing December 27th 07 12:09 PM

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:09:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part

binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?


I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.


Right - I'm going to give a Russian mob a valid credit card number.

Not to mention that these are non-royalty paying sites and are
essentially pirating the music and movies.

Which I would think should be a problem for you being a professional
writer and such.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know
what the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


The better groups all use the higher compression. The stuff I
download is mostly experimental/trance/ambient stuff that has never
seen a recording studio.

Most of it is junk - some of it is quite good.

D.Duck December 27th 07 12:13 PM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:03:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:09:53 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.


I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well. Also, a lot of the better .mp3, mp4 files have
been compressed using other than those recognised by MS.

I tried a few newsreaders, but settled on Forte' Agent. I've gotten
used to it, but it does have some strange "quirks".


If you are into binaries try this one.....
http://www.newsrover.com/

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


---
avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
Virus Database (VPS): 071226-0, 12/26/2007
Tested on: 12/26/2007 9:41:30 PM
avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
http://www.avast.com


I've used NewsRover for several years and also find it quite capable.



D.Duck December 27th 07 12:21 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part

binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike



I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 27th 07 12:44 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:21:23 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike



I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.


True enough, but with files using the large sample rates - say CD
quality sample rates of 44.1 KHz at 16 bits - the various compressors
are handy to break up the one file into smaller files for uploading to
the servers. I think that figures to like 85 kB/s - did it in my head
- double that for stereo.

Is that right? Doesn't sound right.

Anyway...

HK December 27th 07 12:47 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike


I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.



I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.

HK December 27th 07 12:48 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:09:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.


Right - I'm going to give a Russian mob a valid credit card number.

Not to mention that these are non-royalty paying sites and are
essentially pirating the music and movies.

Which I would think should be a problem for you being a professional
writer and such.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know
what the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


The better groups all use the higher compression. The stuff I
download is mostly experimental/trance/ambient stuff that has never
seen a recording studio.

Most of it is junk - some of it is quite good.



Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?

Short Wave Sportfishing December 27th 07 12:50 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:48:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?


You wouldn't like it.

Don't bother.

HK December 27th 07 01:02 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:48:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?


You wouldn't like it.

Don't bother.



Well, that's helpful.

John H.[_2_] December 27th 07 01:07 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:47:31 -0500, HK wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike

I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.



I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.


That's because you're using software which wasn't designed to handle them.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 01:15 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:09:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.


Right - I'm going to give a Russian mob a valid credit card number.

Not to mention that these are non-royalty paying sites and are
essentially pirating the music and movies.

Which I would think should be a problem for you being a professional
writer and such.


I wonder what the Russian Mob could do with a credit card with a $20,000
credit limit.

Eisboch December 27th 07 03:09 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.


One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the music for
quality without having to download the whole song file. I occasionally
check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical music or unusual
recordings that you don't find everywhere. I simply download the first one
or two sections of the multi-part file, then open them and listen to the
first 10-15 seconds of the music. It only takes a couple of seconds to do.
If it sounds promising and is of decent quality, I'll go back and highlight
all the files and get the whole recording.

BTW ... there's a few little tricks I've stumbled across that makes
downloading multi-part files fast and easy using OE. For example, it you
click and highlight the first file, the scroll down to the last one, hit
"Shift" and click on it at the same time, it highlights all the multi-part
files associated with the particular song. Then right click, click on
"Combine and decode" and it automatically downloads and combines the song
files.

When I first discovered multi-part files I was clicking away on each section
which was a pain. Doing it as described above can't be much easier or
faster. Often I'll find two or three songs that I like and download them
all at once while I use the browser for something else.

Eisboch



Eisboch December 27th 07 03:17 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know
what the hell you are getting, quality-wise.


The better groups all use the higher compression. The stuff I
download is mostly experimental/trance/ambient stuff that has never
seen a recording studio.

Most of it is junk - some of it is quite good.



I've got one that I downloaded quite a while ago. I think I mentioned it
before .... Sousa's "Stars and Stripes". It's an excellent performance and
was done at a very high bit rate. It sounds better than many of my CD's or
music DVD's on the Martin-Logan's. You can clearly hear every instrument in
the band.

Eisboch



HK December 27th 07 03:18 PM

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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.


One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the music for
quality without having to download the whole song file. I occasionally
check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical music or unusual
recordings that you don't find everywhere.


Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a
huge backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular
music. I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer
sound quality, no muss, no fuss.

John H.[_2_] December 27th 07 03:24 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:18:17 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.


One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the music for
quality without having to download the whole song file. I occasionally
check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical music or unusual
recordings that you don't find everywhere.


Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want.


That's a lot smarter than mostly downloading music you *don't* want.

JoeSpareBedroom December 27th 07 03:26 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.


One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the music
for quality without having to download the whole song file. I
occasionally check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical
music or unusual recordings that you don't find everywhere.


Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a huge
backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular music.
I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer sound
quality, no muss, no fuss.



mp3sparks.com? What's the other one?



HK December 27th 07 03:40 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.
One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the music
for quality without having to download the whole song file. I
occasionally check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical
music or unusual recordings that you don't find everywhere.

Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a huge
backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular music.
I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer sound
quality, no muss, no fuss.



mp3sparks.com? What's the other one?




Is that a working email you show here?

Never heard of mp3sparks before, looks interesting for a 102kbps site,
though its prices are a bit high. Did see an old Richter piano
performance from 1951 right on the front page of the classical page,
though, which impressed me. He did a performance of Pictures at an
Exhibition in Moscow many years ago that to this day is the best ever
recorded, audience coughs and all.

JoeSpareBedroom December 27th 07 03:43 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.
One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the
music for quality without having to download the whole song file. I
occasionally check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical
music or unusual recordings that you don't find everywhere.
Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a
huge backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular
music. I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer
sound quality, no muss, no fuss.



mp3sparks.com? What's the other one?



Is that a working email you show here?


Yes, the email works, although I only check it if I know something legit is
on the way. Or, if I'm in the mood for unique opportunities in the Nigerian
banking industry.


Never heard of mp3sparks before, looks interesting for a 102kbps site,
though its prices are a bit high.


I think it's hosted on an old 286, or maybe a Casio calculator. So, take
into account the time zone in Russia. When kids get home from school, until
bedtime, it can be really slow. Avoid that time slot.



HK December 27th 07 04:30 PM

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Is that a working email you show here?


Yes, the email works, although I only check it if I know something legit is
on the way. Or, if I'm in the mood for unique opportunities in the Nigerian
banking industry.



I just sent you an email to two "old" email addresses I had for you. Let
me know if you get the message.

H.

JoeSpareBedroom December 27th 07 04:31 PM

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Is that a working email you show here?


Yes, the email works, although I only check it if I know something legit
is on the way. Or, if I'm in the mood for unique opportunities in the
Nigerian banking industry.



I just sent you an email to two "old" email addresses I had for you. Let
me know if you get the message.

H.



Got it. Now, if I could just stop the phone from ringing, I could read what
you sent...these customers don't understand that they're interrupting life.



HK December 27th 07 04:33 PM

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Is that a working email you show here?

Yes, the email works, although I only check it if I know something legit
is on the way. Or, if I'm in the mood for unique opportunities in the
Nigerian banking industry.


I just sent you an email to two "old" email addresses I had for you. Let
me know if you get the message.

H.



Got it. Now, if I could just stop the phone from ringing, I could read what
you sent...these customers don't understand that they're interrupting life.




let me know if you need help with setting up the "rapid" stuff. It's
directions were written by someone from Karachi who moved to Bangladore.

JoeSpareBedroom December 27th 07 04:33 PM

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Is that a working email you show here?

Yes, the email works, although I only check it if I know something
legit is on the way. Or, if I'm in the mood for unique opportunities in
the Nigerian banking industry.


I just sent you an email to two "old" email addresses I had for you. Let
me know if you get the message.

H.



Got it. Now, if I could just stop the phone from ringing, I could read
what you sent...these customers don't understand that they're
interrupting life.



let me know if you need help with setting up the "rapid" stuff. It's
directions were written by someone from Karachi who moved to Bangladore.



If I can decipher Bush, I can decipher anything.



Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 05:30 PM

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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.


One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the
music for quality without having to download the whole song file. I
occasionally check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical
music or unusual recordings that you don't find everywhere.


Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a
huge backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular
music. I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer
sound quality, no muss, no fuss.


Harry,
Whatever happened to you placing a value on intellectual property?

John H.[_3_] December 27th 07 05:56 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:30:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.

One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the
music for quality without having to download the whole song file. I
occasionally check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical
music or unusual recordings that you don't find everywhere.


Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a
huge backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular
music. I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer
sound quality, no muss, no fuss.


Harry,
Whatever happened to you placing a value on intellectual property?


Same thing that happened to his anti-handgun stance.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_4_] December 27th 07 05:57 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:30:03 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.
One advantage of using multi-part files is that you can sample the
music for quality without having to download the whole song file. I
occasionally check the binary music newsgroups mainly for acoustical
music or unusual recordings that you don't find everywhere.
Whatever floats.

I mostly d/l music I want. I have three different cast versions of La
Traviata, for example, all "MP4" quality, and I got them in about 15
minutes from the same site. One of the Russian sites I frequent has a
huge backlist of "classicial" CDs, and another is up to date on popular
music. I also get music from the Rapidshare servers. It's all top-drawer
sound quality, no muss, no fuss.

Harry,
Whatever happened to you placing a value on intellectual property?


Same thing that happened to his anti-handgun stance.


and his anti-Walmart stance. Actually he still doesn't want anyone else
to shop at WalMart and he only buys from them when they have a good deal.


Short Wave Sportfishing December 27th 07 11:08 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
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Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?


You wouldn't like it.

Don't bother.


Well, that's helpful.


Well, I just don't think you will like it - not your thing.

However, trance a type of heavily synthesized/sampled dance music -
some is vocal -most of it high tempo, but some slow tempo is included
in the genre.

Try some and see - if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

JoeSpareBedroom December 27th 07 11:12 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:02:22 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:48:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?

You wouldn't like it.

Don't bother.


Well, that's helpful.


Well, I just don't think you will like it - not your thing.

However, trance a type of heavily synthesized/sampled dance music -
some is vocal -most of it high tempo, but some slow tempo is included
in the genre.

Try some and see - if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.



What if you're NOT wrong?



HK December 27th 07 11:18 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:02:22 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:48:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?
You wouldn't like it.

Don't bother.

Well, that's helpful.


Well, I just don't think you will like it - not your thing.

However, trance a type of heavily synthesized/sampled dance music -
some is vocal -most of it high tempo, but some slow tempo is included
in the genre.

Try some and see - if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.


You're not wrong. It's sorta like elevator music, though less honest.


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