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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:02:14 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Does that depend on how you define HTML email? For instance, I get email from Barnes & Noble, with pictures, and various parts of the pictures contain links to different web pages. Is that HTML mail? If so, there are plenty of non-spam uses for it. Some would argue Barnes & Noble is spam. Hey, I like the book store, but I don't like their web bugs. http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Marketing/web_bug.html I chose to receive their emails. Same with LL Bean, Lands End and a few others. |
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The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain and configure his/her antivirus software. Or because MS didn't properly secure their software. It's a circular argument. You buy the latest and greatest operating system, then buy the latest and greatest anti-virus and spy-killing software. It's a scam, and you end up paying. gratuitous plug I haven't used any anti-virus or any anti-spyware in about ten years, and I haven't had any problems, but then, I use Linux. Oh, and it's free. /gratuitous plug |
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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain and configure his/her antivirus software. Or because MS didn't properly secure their software. It's a circular argument. You buy the latest and greatest operating system, then buy the latest and greatest anti-virus and spy-killing software. It's a scam, and you end up paying. gratuitous plug I haven't used any anti-virus or any anti-spyware in about ten years, and I haven't had any problems, but then, I use Linux. Oh, and it's free. /gratuitous plug Do you think every piece of software should come with built-in protection against viruses? If yes, how would you propose to implement such a feature? |
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Please let me know when there is a "linux" that as it installs itself, finds *all* my computer hardware, printers, and other devices, and automatically configures itself to communicate with them, no matter how they are hooked up. Let me know when Windows does that. Every time I buy a peripheral there is always a CD with drivers. What's that for? Then, please find for me "linux" equals of all the software I use. I'll put you hold... I tried ubuntu a few months ago. What a sack of trash that was. |
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Do you think every piece of software should come with built-in protection against viruses? If yes, how would you propose to implement such a feature? I think every piece of software that connects to the internet should have some basic security, yes. MS tends to open up holes, not close them. HTML is just one example. Oh, and a simple set of file permissions would go a long way to protecting your computer. Unix had them way back in the '70s. Microsoft is finally seeing the light, 30 years later. |
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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:35:49 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Do you think every piece of software should come with built-in protection against viruses? If yes, how would you propose to implement such a feature? I think every piece of software that connects to the internet should have some basic security, yes. MS tends to open up holes, not close them. HTML is just one example. Oh, and a simple set of file permissions would go a long way to protecting your computer. Unix had them way back in the '70s. Microsoft is finally seeing the light, 30 years later. Basic security based on what? The known threats on the day the software was shipped? That would be as useless as a rubber crutch. What about software that does NOT connect to the internet? It can still be a vector for infection if the files it's opening are infected. |
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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:03:22 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Accidental deletion of what? Email messages? Yes, although The Bat! has an available NNTP add-on, it just isn't a news reader and I wouldn't recommend it as such.... Mail... for example, you can set the program to automatically delete all mail over X days old, but the parked messages will not be deleted. Messages can be parked and unparked manually or automatically, based on highly configurable filters. If I delete email from OE's inbox, it lands in the Deleted folder. Now, there are two ways that folder can be emptied: 1) I set the "Delete on exit" option to do its thing. This can't be done by accident unless you're blind or illiterate. 2) I use 3 specific keystrokes to do it manually. If this happens, it's because I wanted it to happen. Neither is the fault of the program. |
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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:11:49 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:02:14 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Does that depend on how you define HTML email? For instance, I get email from Barnes & Noble, with pictures, and various parts of the pictures contain links to different web pages. Is that HTML mail? If so, there are plenty of non-spam uses for it. Some would argue Barnes & Noble is spam. Hey, I like the book store, but I don't like their web bugs. http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Marketing/web_bug.html Best defense against this is not to use a broken or disabled email client, but to have a configurable firewall that blocks unwanted intrusion. For instance, I block everything that is *doubleclick*, *preferences.com*, and even entire Internet registries. I don't know anybody in the APNIC registry, for example, and I got damn tired of trying to surgically block every Chinese IT student that had nothing better to do than port sniff and hack. Blacklists, Tarpitting and SpamAssasin are also very useful tools...... Maybe this is why we have different approaches to the problem: I get pretty much no junk email at my 3 "real" addresses. I still run a non-MS firewall which monitors traffic in & out, and run through a router. The yahoo address that's visible here is not used for anything else. I never check it. As far as being tracked by LL Bean and Barnes & Noble, etc, I don't care. I've chosen to be their customer. For all I know, I might've gotten MORE coupons from B&N because of clicking on the earlier ones, but not using them. |
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wrote: Many of the posts that I see, here, would be grounds for dismissal, if they are going through a corporate server or firewall. Any IT professional, seeing any of these childish personal attacks and bad language, would be compelled to adopt a "not on my watch" attitude and take appropriate action..... It's a theft of company time anyway. In all the years of sitting in front of a keyboard that gave me full internet access at work, I never used it unless it was work-related. Can't tell you how many times I walked up on somebody - including managers- clumsily doing the alt-tab dance at my arrival. I suspect part of it is generational, part work ethics. --Vic |
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Best defense against this is not to use a broken or disabled email client, but to have a configurable firewall that blocks unwanted intrusion. For instance, I block everything that is *doubleclick*, *preferences.com*, and even entire Internet registries. I don't know anybody in the APNIC registry, for example, and I got damn tired of trying to surgically block every Chinese IT student that had nothing better to do than port sniff and hack. Blacklists, Tarpitting and SpamAssasin are also very useful tools...... I do all my browsing through a Privoxy proxy. It removes web bugs and most advertising in web pages. It will even send bogus cookies if I set it up to. And, I'm behind a dedicated firewall, IPCop. http://www.privoxy.org/ http://ipcop.org/ |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:06:04 -0500, HK wrote:
Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Cooked some chicken that way once, and it was ok. When I was a heat treater a work mate always had his lunch going on a furnace. Place always smelled like chicken or pork chops. --Vic |
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wrote: Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? I found it useful in the work environment, and gearheads loved it. It's a corporate communications/scheduling solution, and works well. It's complex, has a steep learning curve, and capabilities most never use. I've heard it can be exploited by hackers, but in the corporate environment I was in that seldom happened, due to full-time employees being there to stop that type of thing. I've used Agent since before Outlook was around, and though there's some learning curve to pull it's capabilities, it's simpler than Outlook and easier to use - I think. It's all personal preference once you get past security/data integrity. My preference is always simplicity combined with native ease of data backup. I just don't like *ever* losing anything unless it's my decision. I don't do scheduling anymore, or group e-mailing anymore, so I don't miss Outlook at all. Some hate it just because it's MS. I'm still using a shareware VB address book app I bought 10 years ago (called Lifetime) for my address book, but frankly, Notepad would do, and just a little attention to formatting and doing a find makes it work well. And plain text has it's benefits. Space is cheap. --Vic |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:46:19 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Basic security based on what? The known threats on the day the software was shipped? That would be as useless as a rubber crutch. Huh? Basic security based on standard security practices. Why does MS open up holes with HTML email? ActiveX browsing? There's a disaster. Every piece of software runs risks, but Microsoft tends to go out of it's way to open up holes. What about software that does NOT connect to the internet? It can still be a vector for infection if the files it's opening are infected. Yeah, but these days, most infections come from the internet. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:36:55 -0000, wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:28:08 -0500, HK wrote: Please let me know when there is a "linux" that as it installs itself, finds *all* my computer hardware, printers, and other devices, and automatically configures itself to communicate with them, no matter how they are hooked up. Let me know when Windows does that. Every time I buy a peripheral there is always a CD with drivers. What's that for? I hang them on fishing line around my garden to keep the birds away Those drivers on the CD drivers are often already outdated, so that's a good use. --Vic |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. I figured you had one of those gas powered vacuum's. Like you see in shopping center parking lots. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:21:19 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:11:23 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while you are driving. Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun. I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the world create just for fun. The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain and configure his/her antivirus software. You can always tell when someone is really an expert. "Virii" is not only not an English word, it's not a Latin word either. The plural of virus in English is viruses. As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad". I have been unable to find any other references from reputable sources, or should I say, "sourcii"? D'oh. Gee. Whiz. No. Fun. Allowed. Virii is a fun word, dumbo. A "fun word"? Cite please! http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/virii.html Hmm... your cite agress with me! http://membres.lycos.fr/asle/virii.2.html This is just some uneducated dope's personal page where they don't know that the correct plural of virus is viruses. Probably wears his baseball hat backwards, too. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=virii They also agree with me, as does EVERY legitimate dictionary ever published. Next time, check your chops before you challenge mine. I think you just chopped yourself off at the knees (kneeii?) I said it was a "fun" word. It isn't my problem if you don't get it. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=72669 |
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"HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while you are driving. Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun. I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. I personally witnessed Jesus restoring the hymens of prostitutes at The Fuzzy Bunny Ranch out in Nevada. Most of us do not frequent Houses of Ill Repute, so most here will miss that experience of healing hymans. |
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wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:28:08 -0500, HK wrote: Please let me know when there is a "linux" that as it installs itself, finds *all* my computer hardware, printers, and other devices, and automatically configures itself to communicate with them, no matter how they are hooked up. Let me know when Windows does that. Every time I buy a peripheral there is always a CD with drivers. What's that for? In case of... At least it is there. There usually are no linux drivers on that CD. When I fired up VISTA for the first time, it found everything that was connected to the computer, including my photo printer, which was connected via USB. I did have to tell the OS that my color laser printer was connected via my network, but once I did, it found it just fine. Except for my old scanner. But as it turned out my old scanner drivers from XP worked just fine. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while you are driving. Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun. I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the world create just for fun. Just set your options to not run Java and active x controls automatically. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:59:03 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:21:19 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:11:23 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while you are driving. Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun. I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the world create just for fun. The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain and configure his/her antivirus software. You can always tell when someone is really an expert. "Virii" is not only not an English word, it's not a Latin word either. The plural of virus in English is viruses. As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad". I have been unable to find any other references from reputable sources, or should I say, "sourcii"? D'oh. Gee. Whiz. No. Fun. Allowed. Virii is a fun word, dumbo. A "fun word"? Cite please! http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/virii.html Hmm... your cite agress with me! http://membres.lycos.fr/asle/virii.2.html This is just some uneducated dope's personal page where they don't know that the correct plural of virus is viruses. Probably wears his baseball hat backwards, too. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=virii They also agree with me, as does EVERY legitimate dictionary ever published. Next time, check your chops before you challenge mine. I think you just chopped yourself off at the knees (kneeii?) I said it was a "fun" word. It isn't my problem if you don't get it. No, I asked you for a legitmate cite, and you can't seem to produce one. Instead you provided 3 links to pages that more or less agree with me that the use of "virii" indicates a certain lack of education or expertise. I think you have pretty much confirmed where you fit in. Can you at least provide a legitimate cite describing "fun word"? For bonus points, the cite can include virii as an example of a "fun word". Do you know loogynosepicker here? Go play your petty, nonsensical argument with him. You are going in the bozo bin. Bye. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:00:27 -0500, wrote: I hang them on fishing line around my garden to keep the birds away Those drivers on the CD drivers are often already outdated, so that's a good use. --Vic That was my point. You don't need the CD. I know, but maybe the linux guy didn't. I'm almost laughing - almost - thinking about how those driver diskettes and CD's used to be treated like precious jewels. --Vic I still have a few around for the oddball drivers they contain. Sometimes you can find more up to date ones around, and sometimes you can't. HP sadly is now NOT putting all the drivers its desktop computers use up on its web pages, and the only way you can fix a bad driver is to do a system restore. Thus, my friend with the HP machine...we went driver shopping on a driver website and made up a driver CD for him. As Louis Pasteur wrote, chance favors the prepared mind. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:09:57 -0500, HK wrote:
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:09:57 -0500, HK wrote: Do you know loogynosepicker here? Go play your petty, nonsensical argument with him. You are going in the bozo bin. Bye. Damn Harry, you're a prick. But my kind of prick. --Vic Thank you, I think. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:13:20 -0500, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:00:27 -0500, wrote: I hang them on fishing line around my garden to keep the birds away Those drivers on the CD drivers are often already outdated, so that's a good use. --Vic That was my point. You don't need the CD. I know, but maybe the linux guy didn't. I'm almost laughing - almost - thinking about how those driver diskettes and CD's used to be treated like precious jewels. --Vic I still have a few around for the oddball drivers they contain. Sometimes you can find more up to date ones around, and sometimes you can't. HP sadly is now NOT putting all the drivers its desktop computers use up on its web pages, and the only way you can fix a bad driver is to do a system restore. Thus, my friend with the HP machine...we went driver shopping on a driver website and made up a driver CD for him. As Louis Pasteur wrote, chance favors the prepared mind. There's a place - drivers.com I think - you can find most anything. But if it's an oddball, I put it in a HD directory anyway, so I don't have to keep disks or CD's around. My stuff is backed up on 3 HD's. Of course I don't do off-site, so if the PC gets fried, or the house burns, it's all gone anyway. BFD. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:08:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? I found it useful in the work environment, and gearheads loved it. It's a corporate communications/scheduling solution, and works well. It's complex, has a steep learning curve, and capabilities most never use. I've heard it can be exploited by hackers, but in the corporate environment I was in that seldom happened, due to full-time employees being there to stop that type of thing. I've used Agent since before Outlook was around, and though there's some learning curve to pull it's capabilities, it's simpler than Outlook and easier to use - I think. It's all personal preference once you get past security/data integrity. My preference is always simplicity combined with native ease of data backup. I just don't like *ever* losing anything unless it's my decision. I don't do scheduling anymore, or group e-mailing anymore, so I don't miss Outlook at all. Some hate it just because it's MS. I'm still using a shareware VB address book app I bought 10 years ago (called Lifetime) for my address book, but frankly, Notepad would do, and just a little attention to formatting and doing a find makes it work well. And plain text has it's benefits. Space is cheap. --Vic I think the question was about Outlook Express not Outlook. I'm sure you realize they are two different animals. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. I also have been using it for mail and newsgroups for years with nary a problem. I've tried Thunderbird and the "free Agent" a while back because everyone told me how much better they were than OE. I didn't find that to be the case at all and eventually dumped them and went back to OE. Many claim that OE is subject to hacks and viruses. Maybe, but I've never experienced it. I also find it very easy to use for both mail and newsgroups. I don't use filters much, but when I do, it works fine. I never see that M??? whatever poster anymore. Sometimes I think that some of the complaints are simply because it's Microsoft and it's cool to be anti-Microsoft anything. Eisboch |
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wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:11:49 -0000, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:02:14 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Does that depend on how you define HTML email? For instance, I get email from Barnes & Noble, with pictures, and various parts of the pictures contain links to different web pages. Is that HTML mail? If so, there are plenty of non-spam uses for it. Some would argue Barnes & Noble is spam. Hey, I like the book store, but I don't like their web bugs. http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Marketing/web_bug.html Best defense against this is not to use a broken or disabled email client, but to have a configurable firewall that blocks unwanted intrusion. For instance, I block everything that is *doubleclick*, *preferences.com*, and even entire Internet registries. I don't know anybody in the APNIC registry, for example, and I got damn tired of trying to surgically block every Chinese IT student that had nothing better to do than port sniff and hack. Blacklists, Tarpitting and SpamAssasin are also very useful tools...... Try Mailwasher. It's great. -- John H |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:38:28 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
I think the question was about Outlook Express not Outlook. I'm sure you realize they are two different animals. Riiiiight. Missed that. Though I thought they had similarities. Never used OE, always didn't install/uninstalled/disabled when loading the OS. Heard OE was bad, bad, bad, and had my own stuff, which suited me fine. Anyway, since that's all I know, I'll butt out. --Vic |
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wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while you are driving. Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun. I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the world create just for fun. The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain and configure his/her antivirus software. Not to be pendantic, but as I remember my high school Latin, vir means man and viri means men. So if you have men in your email, I'd like to know how they got in there. :) |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:32:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:09:18 GMT, wrote: As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad" You would be incorrect. The word virii comes from Omicron Persei VIII and defines the qualities one needs to be Emperor. It encompasses all the concepts and theory behind being trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. Or angry, corrupt, depraved, destructive, foul, loathsome, malevolent, malicious, spiteful, vicious and villainous. It also defines the number of potatos one can legally use in potato salad. It's a complicated language. Thanks for the clarification! ps. potatoes has an "e" in it! ...At least in English. I imagine on Harry's planet (Hisanus) it's spelled "potatii". You are correct - the plural of potato is potatoes. I am shamed. Ok, maybe not. |
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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:59:03 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:21:19 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:11:23 -0500, HK wrote: wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:17 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:25:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: That's like saying a vacuum cleaner does a lousy job of toasting bagels, so you're going to shop for a better vacuum cleaner. I don't know about you, but I toast my bagels on the muffler of my lawn tractor. Or at this time of year, my big snow blower. Yeah, but that makes perfect sense. Not a vacuum cleaner, though. Why not? There is heat generated by the motor - seems to me to be a pretty simple adaptation. There was a paperback published some years ago that certainly would interest Tom if not others. It was a book of roadkill recipes. These were recipes you could use to heat up on the radiator of your car while you are driving. Now, there are other roadkill recipes around, but these were for meals you could prepare while you travel. On your car engine. Yeah anyway...back to the subject. Why is Outlook Express awful? Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun. I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. Outlook vi-rii and Outlook troublefiles that little twerps around the world create just for fun. The virii got into the computer because the user didn't properly maintain and configure his/her antivirus software. You can always tell when someone is really an expert. "Virii" is not only not an English word, it's not a Latin word either. The plural of virus in English is viruses. As far as I know, virii is Martian for "potato salad". I have been unable to find any other references from reputable sources, or should I say, "sourcii"? D'oh. Gee. Whiz. No. Fun. Allowed. Virii is a fun word, dumbo. A "fun word"? Cite please! http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/virii.html Hmm... your cite agress with me! http://membres.lycos.fr/asle/virii.2.html This is just some uneducated dope's personal page where they don't know that the correct plural of virus is viruses. Probably wears his baseball hat backwards, too. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=virii They also agree with me, as does EVERY legitimate dictionary ever published. Next time, check your chops before you challenge mine. I think you just chopped yourself off at the knees (kneeii?) I said it was a "fun" word. It isn't my problem if you don't get it. No, I asked you for a legitmate cite, and you can't seem to produce one. Instead you provided 3 links to pages that more or less agree with me that the use of "virii" indicates a certain lack of education or expertise. I think you have pretty much confirmed where you fit in. Can you at least provide a legitimate cite describing "fun word"? For bonus points, the cite can include virii as an example of a "fun word". He provided examples of people using the word because they felt like it. Unfortunately, they're all wrong. The word is actually viruletti, the plural of viruletto. |
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... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:46:19 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Basic security based on what? The known threats on the day the software was shipped? That would be as useless as a rubber crutch. Huh? Basic security based on standard security practices. Why does MS open up holes with HTML email? ActiveX browsing? There's a disaster. Every piece of software runs risks, but Microsoft tends to go out of it's way to open up holes. Both of those things can be shut off easily. What about software that does NOT connect to the internet? It can still be a vector for infection if the files it's opening are infected. Yeah, but these days, most infections come from the internet. Yeah, obviously, but irrelevant. Lots of software accesses the internet simply to check for updates. What if Paintshop Pro did that? Do you think it should contain ways of protecting itself from viruses introduced during that process? How about viruses in jpg files? |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... I haven't had a single problem with OE since I began using it several years ago for email & news. I want to know what YOU have PERSONALLY WITNESSED. I also have been using it for mail and newsgroups for years with nary a problem. I've tried Thunderbird and the "free Agent" a while back because everyone told me how much better they were than OE. I didn't find that to be the case at all and eventually dumped them and went back to OE. Many claim that OE is subject to hacks and viruses. Maybe, but I've never experienced it. I also find it very easy to use for both mail and newsgroups. I don't use filters much, but when I do, it works fine. I never see that M??? whatever poster anymore. Sometimes I think that some of the complaints are simply because it's Microsoft and it's cool to be anti-Microsoft anything. Eisboch Yeah...I agree. They may be whining because it's fashionable. And, my experiences with other software was roughly as follows: 1) Agent: "Some years ago" - no tech support available. I couldn't even get pre-purchase questions answered. My main question was whether it could handle multiple e-mail accounts simultaneously. It couldn't. 2) Thunderbird: Had nothing like the "watch conversation" feature that works so nicely with newsgroups in OE. I also had issues at the time with the open sauce* programming community that destroyed certain excellent features in other Mozilla products, like the bookmark search feature. *sauce: slang for liquor. Open sauce, pretend to be a programmer, hurl obscenities at anyone in a newsgroup who questions why you broke a feature that had worked perfectly for years. |
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