HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:54:51 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:44:56 -0500, JG2U wrote:

I recently heard a story that pointed out that a typical hybrid has a
negative impact on the environment. A fuel efficient "normal" car
actually has an edge after you factor in the manufacturing impact
of the
hybrid's components.

But it is the feel-good thing to do.
You recently heard a "story". That about sums it up. I'm guessing
the story you are referring to is "Dust to Dust: The Energy Costs of
New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal". It's findings don't hold up.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr.../case_studies/
hummer_vs_prius.pdf
Unfortunately, we've knee-deep in luddites who don't think it is
important or necessary to do anything to try to save energy or to
shift to alternative sources.

I look at it this way - the faster we use up fossil fuels, the faster
something new will come along to replace it.

From a historical perspective, it fits perfectly.


Yeah, but you are an old fa^t like me, and it really doesn't matter to
either of us, because we'll both be pushing up daisies before we run out
of oil.

I would think you would be concerned about the environment and future
generations.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:50:25 -0500, Dan wrote:

John H. wrote:


I did a quick look and couldn't find the GPS as an accessory for the Vue.
Does it come with one? When I bought the wife the Highlander, the
'Navigation System' was in the $2000 range. Her Garmin was in the $300
range, and she's very happy with it.

I have a Garmin c330 I bought prior to buying my newest tow vehicle.
The Garmin GPS is so much easier to use than the one installed in the
$65K!!! SUV. I'll never buy that option again unless (as in this case)
it was part of a package I wanted. I now have two GPS's in one vehicle
but I only use the Garmin. Maybe the Germans will catch up one day but
I still like the portability.

You made the right move.

Dan

That's the same one the wife uses.

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:50:25 -0500, Dan wrote:

John H. wrote:

I did a quick look and couldn't find the GPS as an accessory for the Vue.
Does it come with one? When I bought the wife the Highlander, the
'Navigation System' was in the $2000 range. Her Garmin was in the $300
range, and she's very happy with it.
I have a Garmin c330 I bought prior to buying my newest tow vehicle.
The Garmin GPS is so much easier to use than the one installed in the
$65K!!! SUV. I'll never buy that option again unless (as in this case)
it was part of a package I wanted. I now have two GPS's in one vehicle
but I only use the Garmin. Maybe the Germans will catch up one day but
I still like the portability.

You made the right move.

Dan

That's the same one the wife uses.

Remember to check for updates at gamin.com. There are several. Some
relate to foreign languages but others are free firmware upgrades.

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:21:26 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


Unfortunately, we've knee-deep in luddites who don't think it is
important or necessary to do anything to try to save energy or to shift
to alternative sources.
I look at it this way - the faster we use up fossil fuels, the faster
something new will come along to replace it.

From a historical perspective, it fits perfectly.

As a fuel, yes, but what about all the other uses of petroleum,
medicines, fertilizers, plastics, etc. Oil is a gift, and some would
argue it's too important to be squandered as fuel.

Why don't you develop another power source that will replace petroleum
based power.