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On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

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I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot


Please. Okume faced ply is a cheesy substitute for good old mahogany
ply. You probably use okume because you can't find mahogany.

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

I have no idea what your reference is in your last sentence. Doubtful
you do, either.
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On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.


Harry, you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot


Please. Okume faced ply is a cheesy substitute for good old mahogany
ply. You probably use okume because you can't find mahogany.

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

I have no idea what your reference is in your last sentence. Doubtful
you do, either.


Harry, maybe you should stick to your pearls of wisdom about our
warfighting capabilities. After all, you have been there and done that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.


Harry, you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.



Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.


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Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
news:806a227f-03e8-
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The dangers of a LT boat.


Remember the "old days" when the low transom DIDN'T dump directly into
the
boat, but into a self-bailing well over the portable gas tank and
battery?

I guess that was too expensive for today's bubble bloat manufacturers to
pay for.


Larry
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Don't know about that. I have that setup in my Yukon 15, an open aluminum
boat.
http://www.boats.com/listing/gallery...ityid%3D413070

That's a lake boat, dip****.



Maybe for girliemen, wanna be boaters.
Up here we sail the North Atlantic on less than that.



Sure, Don.
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On Dec 24, 6:50*pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:


A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.


Harry, *you are way off base on this.


Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.


Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.


I guess you are saying Tom doesn't have cultrue or taste. We sure are
lucky that you are here to let us know what is cultured and tasteful.
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On Dec 24, 6:50*pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:


A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.


Harry, *you are way off base on this.


Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.


Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.


And bullship is still bullship Besides it really does not bother me
that someone out there is a better builder. Not to mention that I am
convinced that when it comes to boat building/builders, you really
have no credible or objective opinion. Those of us who understand the
engineering and structural necessities of wooden boats see that almost
every time you try to get involved in such a conversation... Your dad
might have know a little about the boats he resold, but you obvously
were not really paying attention... Like I said, when it comes to what
I do (and you don't and never will) your opinon is irrelevant,
seriously. Just because you can drive a hull through a hurricane, does
not mean you know why the hull made it.. It is fun watching you though
Harry, 'specially when you get into a coversation about something you
are less versed than your opponent, you seem to only open your mouth
to change feet sometimes, you are kind of like the group muse.. OK,
time to go build my kids last presents...

Merry Christmas all you dirty dogs... oh, an Tom too!
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wrote:
On Dec 24, 6:50 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:
A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.
Harry, you are way off base on this.
Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.


And bullship is still bullship Besides it really does not bother me
that someone out there is a better builder. Not to mention that I am
convinced that when it comes to boat building/builders, you really
have no credible or objective opinion. Those of us who understand the
engineering and structural necessities of wooden boats see that almost
every time you try to get involved in such a conversation... Your dad
might have know a little about the boats he resold, but you obvously
were not really paying attention... Like I said, when it comes to what
I do (and you don't and never will) your opinon is irrelevant,
seriously. Just because you can drive a hull through a hurricane, does
not mean you know why the hull made it.. It is fun watching you though
Harry, 'specially when you get into a coversation about something you
are less versed than your opponent, you seem to only open your mouth
to change feet sometimes, you are kind of like the group muse.. OK,
time to go build my kids last presents...

Merry Christmas all you dirty dogs... oh, an Tom too!



Jeeeze...you build rowboats or rowboats for bitty outboards. What the
hell are you raving about?
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.


Harry, you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.


Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art.


Let's just say you aren't the only one who grew up around premier
wooden boat builders.

I know a quality boat when I see one and Scott's are top quality.

Take it for what you will.
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