21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.

Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".

Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.

http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html



Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:35:16 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:43:06 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:45:00 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:15:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
news:ilivm3lgtni8rrnje3qs7phercds8gr40m@4ax .com...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:03 -0500, HK
wrote:

Charlie wrote:
HK wrote:

His grandchildren left; they don't want to spend time with the
toothless old grouch, either.

And your children: Why don't they visit you?

-- Charlie


Thanks for posting. I started up my newsgroup filters again, and had
forgotten about you. Now, in you go.

Oh. In response to your query, they were here for T'giving, and one
of
them with family will be here tomorrow. One of the others and family
is
overseas.

Buh-bye.

Harry, be sure and take some pictures! We love what JimH refers to
as
'snotty nosed' brats!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Just walk around the deck of the Disney cruise ships if you need to
know
what they look like.

Have a most spectacular and totally awesome Christmas John. Take the
time
to chill.


JimH, I posted some for you to whine about!

http://tinyurl.com/2lpjj7
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Shame on you John. Why do you think your grandkids are snot nosed
brats?
What a terrible thing to think about your family, especially after they
visited with you this past weekend.


Jimh, your memory isn't doing you justice. *You* were the one who
referred
to them in such terms!


I did? Reading comprehension problems John?

Surely you don't want me to go dig up that post, do you? It'll just make
Tom's assessment even *more* so!

Please do.




If you are really lucky, maybe your kids will be nice enough to provide
some grandkids for you. I sure hope so.

Thanks.

But, you'll have to stop telling lies about your son.

Just for yucks I had him come in my office again to read the thread. We
laughed together every time we read your defensive posts.

Chill John and have a most spectacular and wonderful Christmas.


If I believed you, my respect for a Marine would go way down. As you often
do, you're lying again.


He does not ask for or need your respect.

Believe it or not...............I could care less.

You really turned into a bitter old man. I am sorry to watch you devolve.



You're right. He's a Marine and need ask no one for respect.

Which is why I know you're lying about him.

And that's a damn shame.

Goodbye.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Herring's military trolling, continued
 

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:35:16 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:43:06 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:45:00 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:15:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:03 -0500, HK
wrote:

Charlie wrote:
HK wrote:

His grandchildren left; they don't want to spend time with the
toothless old grouch, either.
And your children: Why don't they visit you?

-- Charlie

Thanks for posting. I started up my newsgroup filters again, and had
forgotten about you. Now, in you go.

Oh. In response to your query, they were here for T'giving, and one
of
them with family will be here tomorrow. One of the others and family
is
overseas.

Buh-bye.
Harry, be sure and take some pictures! We love what JimH refers to
as
'snotty nosed' brats!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Just walk around the deck of the Disney cruise ships if you need to
know
what they look like.

Have a most spectacular and totally awesome Christmas John. Take the
time
to chill.

JimH, I posted some for you to whine about!

http://tinyurl.com/2lpjj7
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Shame on you John. Why do you think your grandkids are snot nosed
brats?
What a terrible thing to think about your family, especially after they
visited with you this past weekend.

Jimh, your memory isn't doing you justice. *You* were the one who
referred
to them in such terms!

I did? Reading comprehension problems John?

Surely you don't want me to go dig up that post, do you? It'll just make
Tom's assessment even *more* so!
Please do.


If you are really lucky, maybe your kids will be nice enough to provide
some grandkids for you. I sure hope so.
Thanks.

But, you'll have to stop telling lies about your son.
Just for yucks I had him come in my office again to read the thread. We
laughed together every time we read your defensive posts.

Chill John and have a most spectacular and wonderful Christmas.

If I believed you, my respect for a Marine would go way down. As you often
do, you're lying again.

He does not ask for or need your respect.

Believe it or not...............I could care less.

You really turned into a bitter old man. I am sorry to watch you devolve.



You're right. He's a Marine and need ask no one for respect.

Which is why I know you're lying about him.

And that's a damn shame.

Goodbye.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Herring's military trolling, continued
 

Harry, you might want to change the settings somewhat. HK still shows up as
the author....



On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:39:18 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:35:16 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:43:06 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:45:00 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:15:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:03 -0500, HK
wrote:

Charlie wrote:
HK wrote:

His grandchildren left; they don't want to spend time with the
toothless old grouch, either.
And your children: Why don't they visit you?

-- Charlie

Thanks for posting. I started up my newsgroup filters again, and had
forgotten about you. Now, in you go.

Oh. In response to your query, they were here for T'giving, and one
of
them with family will be here tomorrow. One of the others and family
is
overseas.

Buh-bye.
Harry, be sure and take some pictures! We love what JimH refers to
as
'snotty nosed' brats!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Just walk around the deck of the Disney cruise ships if you need to
know
what they look like.

Have a most spectacular and totally awesome Christmas John. Take the
time
to chill.

JimH, I posted some for you to whine about!

http://tinyurl.com/2lpjj7
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Shame on you John. Why do you think your grandkids are snot nosed
brats?
What a terrible thing to think about your family, especially after they
visited with you this past weekend.

Jimh, your memory isn't doing you justice. *You* were the one who
referred
to them in such terms!

I did? Reading comprehension problems John?

Surely you don't want me to go dig up that post, do you? It'll just make
Tom's assessment even *more* so!
Please do.


If you are really lucky, maybe your kids will be nice enough to provide
some grandkids for you. I sure hope so.
Thanks.

But, you'll have to stop telling lies about your son.
Just for yucks I had him come in my office again to read the thread. We
laughed together every time we read your defensive posts.

Chill John and have a most spectacular and wonderful Christmas.

If I believed you, my respect for a Marine would go way down. As you often
do, you're lying again.

He does not ask for or need your respect.

Believe it or not...............I could care less.

You really turned into a bitter old man. I am sorry to watch you devolve.



You're right. He's a Marine and need ask no one for respect.

Which is why I know you're lying about him.

And that's a damn shame.

Goodbye.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 24, 2:16*pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.

Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".

Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. *Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. *Better yet, build a boat
or two.

http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html

Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:44:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 24, 2:16*pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.

Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".

Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. *Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. *Better yet, build a boat
or two.

http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html

Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

That last line was *totally* uncalled for!

The rest was pretty good though.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 24, 3:49*pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:44:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:





On Dec 24, 2:16*pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.

Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".

Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. *Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. *Better yet, build a boat
or two.

http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html

Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

That last line was *totally* uncalled for!

sorry...;(


The rest was pretty good though.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:14:05 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 24, 3:49*pm, John H. wrote:
That last line was *totally* uncalled for!

sorry...;(

No you aren't. :)

Merry Christmas to you and yours Scott.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:25:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:14:05 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 24, 3:49*pm, John H. wrote:
That last line was *totally* uncalled for!

sorry...;(

No you aren't. :)

Merry Christmas to you and yours Scott.

....and to all you guys too!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Herring's military trolling, continued
 

John H. wrote:
Harry, you might want to change the settings somewhat. HK still shows up as
the author....



On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:39:18 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:35:16 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:43:06 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:45:00 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:15:17 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:03 -0500, HK
wrote:

Charlie wrote:
HK wrote:

His grandchildren left; they don't want to spend time with the
toothless old grouch, either.
And your children: Why don't they visit you?

-- Charlie
Thanks for posting. I started up my newsgroup filters again, and had
forgotten about you. Now, in you go.

Oh. In response to your query, they were here for T'giving, and one
of
them with family will be here tomorrow. One of the others and family
is
overseas.

Buh-bye.
Harry, be sure and take some pictures! We love what JimH refers to
as
'snotty nosed' brats!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Just walk around the deck of the Disney cruise ships if you need to
know
what they look like.

Have a most spectacular and totally awesome Christmas John. Take the
time
to chill.

JimH, I posted some for you to whine about!

http://tinyurl.com/2lpjj7
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Shame on you John. Why do you think your grandkids are snot nosed
brats?
What a terrible thing to think about your family, especially after they
visited with you this past weekend.

Jimh, your memory isn't doing you justice. *You* were the one who
referred
to them in such terms!

I did? Reading comprehension problems John?

Surely you don't want me to go dig up that post, do you? It'll just make
Tom's assessment even *more* so!
Please do.


If you are really lucky, maybe your kids will be nice enough to provide
some grandkids for you. I sure hope so.
Thanks.

But, you'll have to stop telling lies about your son.
Just for yucks I had him come in my office again to read the thread. We
laughed together every time we read your defensive posts.

Chill John and have a most spectacular and wonderful Christmas.

If I believed you, my respect for a Marine would go way down. As you often
do, you're lying again.
He does not ask for or need your respect.

Believe it or not...............I could care less.

You really turned into a bitter old man. I am sorry to watch you devolve.


You're right. He's a Marine and need ask no one for respect.

Which is why I know you're lying about him.

And that's a damn shame.

Goodbye.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*



Whooosh.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

wrote:
On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

Please. Okume faced ply is a cheesy substitute for good old mahogany
ply. You probably use okume because you can't find mahogany.

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

I have no idea what your reference is in your last sentence. Doubtful
you do, either.

Cheesy Okume vs. Quality Mahogany
 

wrote:
On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

Please. Okume faced ply is a cheesy substitute for good old mahogany
ply. You probably use okume because you can't find mahogany.

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

I have no idea what your reference is in your last sentence. Doubtful
you do, either.

Harry, maybe you should stick to your pearls of wisdom about our
warfighting capabilities. After all, you have been there and done that.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.


Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
news:806a227f-03e8-
:

The dangers of a LT boat.


Remember the "old days" when the low transom DIDN'T dump directly into
the
boat, but into a self-bailing well over the portable gas tank and
battery?

I guess that was too expensive for today's bubble bloat manufacturers to
pay for.


Larry
--

Don't know about that. I have that setup in my Yukon 15, an open aluminum
boat.
http://www.boats.com/listing/gallery...ityid%3D413070
That's a lake boat, dip****.


Maybe for girliemen, wanna be boaters.
Up here we sail the North Atlantic on less than that.



Sure, Don.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 24, 6:50*pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, *you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.

I guess you are saying Tom doesn't have cultrue or taste. We sure are
lucky that you are here to let us know what is cultured and tasteful.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 24, 6:50*pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, *you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.

And bullship is still bullship;) Besides it really does not bother me
that someone out there is a better builder. Not to mention that I am
convinced that when it comes to boat building/builders, you really
have no credible or objective opinion. Those of us who understand the
engineering and structural necessities of wooden boats see that almost
every time you try to get involved in such a conversation... Your dad
might have know a little about the boats he resold, but you obvously
were not really paying attention... Like I said, when it comes to what
I do (and you don't and never will) your opinon is irrelevant,
seriously. Just because you can drive a hull through a hurricane, does
not mean you know why the hull made it.. It is fun watching you though
Harry, 'specially when you get into a coversation about something you
are less versed than your opponent, you seem to only open your mouth
to change feet sometimes, you are kind of like the group muse.. OK,
time to go build my kids last presents...

Merry Christmas all you dirty dogs... oh, an Tom too! ;)

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art.

Let's just say you aren't the only one who grew up around premier
wooden boat builders.

I know a quality boat when I see one and Scott's are top quality.

Take it for what you will.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 24, 7:38*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 24, 6:50 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:
A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.
Harry, *you are way off base on this.
Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.
Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art. Last
summer I had the privilege of a ride and inspection on a Hooper Island
draketail, built of cold molded wood. Nicest wood boat I've seen in many
years. About 27' if memory serves, and suitable for deep water. There's
also a guy about 25 miles south of here who builds beautiful cedar strip
canoes the old fashioned way. The photos Scott had of his boats when I
last saw his site didn't do a thing for me.

When I was a young lad, my dad bought and had manufactured an L16, one
of the prettiest wood sailboats ever. I've seen and admired many really
beautiful wood boats, close up and from a distance.

Culture may be learned, but taste is subjective.

And bullship is still bullship;) *Besides it really does not bother me
that someone out there is a better builder. Not to mention that I am
convinced that when it comes to boat building/builders, you really
have no credible or objective opinion. Those of us who understand the
engineering and structural necessities of wooden boats see that almost
every time you try to get involved in such a conversation... Your dad
might have know a little about the boats he resold, but you obvously
were not really paying attention... Like I said, when it comes to what
I do (and you don't and never will) your opinon is irrelevant,
seriously. Just because you can drive a hull through a hurricane, does
not mean you know why the hull made it.. It is fun watching you though
Harry, 'specially when you get into a coversation about something you
are less versed than your opponent, you seem to only open your mouth
to change feet sometimes, you are kind of like the group muse.. OK,
time to go build my kids last presents...

Merry Christmas all you dirty dogs... oh, an Tom too! *;)

Jeeeze...you build rowboats or rowboats for bitty outboards. What the
hell are you raving about?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So you do get it;)

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 24, 7:49*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, *you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art.

Let's just say you aren't the only one who grew up around premier
wooden boat builders.

I know a quality boat when I see one and Scott's are top quality.

Take it for what you will.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

'S'all right Tom. You know me, don't need to be the best, just need to
be having fun and looking cool doing it;) Merry Christmas to you and
your family.... even the cop;)

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:58:37 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 24, 7:49*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:34:57 -0500, HK wrote:

A boat made of high quality wood composites would be nice if it were
made by a real craftworker. I know a couple of builders like that. From
what I have seen of your rowboats, you're not on the list.

Harry, *you are way off base on this.

Scott's boats are well crafted, quality material and excellant
workmanship. *I've seen them - some are works of art and very
uncommon.

Tom, we have lots of high-end boatbuilders around here who work in wood,
on this side of the bay and on the other side. Real works of art.

Let's just say you aren't the only one who grew up around premier
wooden boat builders.

I know a quality boat when I see one and Scott's are top quality.

Take it for what you will.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

'S'all right Tom. You know me, don't need to be the best, just need to
be having fun and looking cool doing it;)

True enough - it's all about looking cool. :)

I'm hiding out in the office at the moment - there are so many people
in the house, the dogs and I are taking a break. :) It's time for a
cigar anyway - get some fresh air and let the mutts run around a
little.

Merry Christmas to you and your family.... even the cop;)

10-4.

The cop is with his girlfriend tonight at her parents and will be
there tomorrow too. The cop says next time you pass through SC, let
him know and he'll keep an eye out for you.

~~ snerk ~~

Cheesy Okume vs. Quality Mahogany
 

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 24, 2:16 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:19:03 -0500, HK wrote:
Jealousy over his boatbuilding skills? He builds crappy little
rowboats
out of plywood.
Calling Okume plywood is like referring to fine porcelain as "baked
mud".
Sounds like you are stressed out Hairy, and too much in touch with
your inner child again. Maybe you should go check your shrink wrap
this afternoon and give the internet a rest. Better yet, build a boat
or two.
http://www.by-the-sea.com/archdavisd...s_jacktar.html
Sorry, Whine, but when my father built boats, he built their hulls and
decks of mahogany ply, because the wood was beautiful, and it was strong
and pretty rot-resistant. That's mahogany ply, not okume. I have seen
some nice okume cigar boxes, which is a suitable use for a wood that
isn't going to be epoxied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't use a material because it is "beautiful", I use it because it
is the best material available. I don't make ornaments, I make
tools... Say what you want Harry, I know what I do with the wood, your
lame insults are of no concequence. Funny how you would consider a
hand made wooden boat made of new high quality composites to be
inferior, then spend nearly 100 grand on a floating clorox bottle,
with a big frekin' hole to boot;)

Hairy's very upset today.

Herring's Foto Madness
 

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:29:46 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:57:20 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 24, 10:55 am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:25:50 -0500, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
Let's see, how did that go again...'friggin' dense'? Was that the
assessment?
--
John H
Speaking of which, got any more photos of your grandchildren, dogs, golf
balls or the dirty diaper pail on the Disney cruises?
Only because you asked so nicely...

http://tinyurl.com/29atkn
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
Glare, probably photoshopped, bad compositition,,, bad, bad, bad...
and you smell too..;)
Yeah, but it was quick!
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Another great post, Harry! One of your better ones, IMHO.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

John, don't respond to the bitter troll. Trust me, he's so uptight that
he has to resort to these reposts to feed his narcissism.

Merry Christmas, John!

Dan

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Wayne.B wrote:

Careful now. There are people here who associate low transoms with
low self esteem and will lash out against those who point out the
dangers to the inexperienced.




You know what they say, Wayne: big boat=small dick, and since you have
the biggest boat in here, you must also have the smallest dick.

I have a big boat.
I am also probably the biggest Dick here.

Eisboch




I have a smaller boat, but am probably bigger than you. And I am a Richard
also.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

My 21' CC doesnt have a low transom, and has handled very rough
chop.Heh heh

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 25, 3:02*am, Sunk wrote:
My 21' CC doesnt have a low transom, and has handled very rough
chop.Heh heh

The funny thing is my transom is lower than anyone here that I know
of, except maybe Don and the Princecraft... Hey, Don has a
"Prince"craft, how Jeff Gordon is that;) ??

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 25, 3:02 am, Sunk wrote:
My 21' CC doesnt have a low transom, and has handled very rough
chop.Heh heh

The funny thing is my transom is lower than anyone here that I know
of, except maybe Don and the Princecraft... Hey, Don has a
"Prince"craft, how Jeff Gordon is that;) ??

If you're questioning my masculinity, you'd better start with the 'big guy'
first. (no...not God)
He owned this Princecraft a lot longer than I have. ;-)

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Dec 25, 3:02 am, Sunk wrote:
My 21' CC doesnt have a low transom, and has handled very rough
chop.Heh heh

The funny thing is my transom is lower than anyone here that I know
of, except maybe Don and the Princecraft... Hey, Don has a
"Prince"craft, how Jeff Gordon is that;) ??

If you're questioning my masculinity, you'd better start with the 'big guy'
first. (no...not God)
He owned this Princecraft a lot longer than I have. ;-)




If the "discovery" of the New World had to depend on some of the scaredy
cat pussy boaters here, we'd all still be speaking Lakota or, in your
case, French Lakota, that Maritime Province variation of Cajun. :}

Merry Christmas, Don.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 25, 8:45*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Dec 25, 3:02 am, Sunk wrote:

My 21' CC doesnt have a low transom, and has handled very rough
chop.Heh heh

The funny thing is my transom is lower than anyone here that I know
of, except maybe Don and the Princecraft... Hey, Don has a
"Prince"craft, how Jeff Gordon is that;) *??

If you're questioning my masculinity, you'd better start with the 'big guy'
first. (no...not God)
He owned this Princecraft a lot longer than I have. ;-)

Uh, uh.. I hear that guy knows "Karate".......... and six other
Chineese words;)

Tom's Masculinity?
 

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Dec 25, 3:02 am, Sunk wrote:
My 21' CC doesnt have a low transom, and has handled very rough
chop.Heh heh

The funny thing is my transom is lower than anyone here that I know
of, except maybe Don and the Princecraft... Hey, Don has a
"Prince"craft, how Jeff Gordon is that;) ??

If you're questioning my masculinity, you'd better start with the 'big
guy' first. (no...not God)
He owned this Princecraft a lot longer than I have. ;-)


If the "discovery" of the New World had to depend on some of the scaredy
cat pussy boaters here, we'd all still be speaking Lakota or, in your
case, French Lakota, that Maritime Province variation of Cajun. :}

Merry Christmas, Don.

Thanks Harry....... yup I imagine the MikMaq natives wish our forefathers
were as mamby pamby as some of the fair weather sailors we have in this
newsgroup.
http://www.native-languages.org/mikmaq.htm

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 24, 9:51 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 24, 9:35 am, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:39:07 -0500, HK wrote:
Yeah, but you're not an asshole.
There you go again, excercising your limited vocabulary and showing
off those famous redundantly, repetitious writing skills. Liven it up
for crying out loud, putting some thought and creative talent into
your childish insults. You used to be able to do it before your low
self esteem issues got the best of your low life transom. Make
yourself a proper role model for political aspirants everywhere.
I would, Whine, but this is, after all, rec-boats, and, frankly, this
place isn't worth the little bit of effort it would take.

Busship... this place is everything to you. Your writing is soooo
telling. This is the only place you can be heard, and even fool
yourself that someone cares and you have won... Fact is, everyone
here, without expception knows you are full of ****, always and
forever...

By the way, *this* guy is a boatbuilder.

http://www.missrebecca.net/Jackforwrd.htm- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He's pretty good. I like the dory he built

http://www.missrebecca.net/Jackhull.htm

I know this boat well as I am great friends with the designer and also
provide him business services. I too have built Payson's Dory..

http://smallboats.com/boats_ggull.htm

I have spoken with this guy over the years too in several forums
IIRC...

Thanks for the link, I had forgotten it;)


Yours prettier. More Jeff Gordon.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:35:37 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:39:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, but you're not an asshole.

There you go again, excercising your limited vocabulary and showing
off those famous redundantly, repetitious writing skills. Liven it up
for crying out loud, putting some thought and creative talent into
your childish insults. You used to be able to do it before your low
self esteem issues got the best of your low life transom. Make
yourself a proper role model for political aspirants everywhere.

I would, Whine, but this is, after all, rec-boats, and, frankly, this
place isn't worth the little bit of effort it would take.

Harry! Please don't talk that way. You'll have us worried sick that you
might leave. Like go to Costa Rica or someplace where they have a decent
military and quality of life, like China or Russia or someplace.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Do not encourage HK to go to CR. I and wife are visiting there next year.
Do not want antiamerican feelings generated before I get there.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:35:37 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:39:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, but you're not an asshole.
There you go again, excercising your limited vocabulary and showing
off those famous redundantly, repetitious writing skills. Liven it up
for crying out loud, putting some thought and creative talent into
your childish insults. You used to be able to do it before your low
self esteem issues got the best of your low life transom. Make
yourself a proper role model for political aspirants everywhere.

I would, Whine, but this is, after all, rec-boats, and, frankly, this
place isn't worth the little bit of effort it would take.
Harry! Please don't talk that way. You'll have us worried sick that you
might leave. Like go to Costa Rica or someplace where they have a decent
military and quality of life, like China or Russia or someplace.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Do not encourage HK to go to CR. I and wife are visiting there next year.
Do not want antiamerican feelings generated before I get there.




Actually, *your* kind of dimwitted American is what gives us a bad name
all over the world.

You're too late regarding my visiting Costa Rica. Been there, will be
going back again. Who knows, might even buy into my buddy's mini-coffee
plantation/B&B. I don't know that it makes money, but it isn't losing any.

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

On Dec 25, 4:49*pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:35:37 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:39:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, but you're not an asshole.
There you go again, excercising your limited vocabulary and showing
off those famous redundantly, repetitious writing skills. *Liven it up
for crying out loud, putting some thought and creative talent into
your childish insults. *You used to be able to do it before your low
self esteem issues got the best of your low life transom. *Make
yourself a proper role model for political aspirants everywhere.

I would, Whine, but this is, after all, rec-boats, and, frankly, this
place isn't worth the little bit of effort it would take.
Harry! Please don't talk that way. You'll have us worried sick that you
might leave. Like go to Costa Rica or someplace where they have a decent
military and quality of life, like China or Russia or someplace.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

Do not encourage HK to go to CR. *I and wife are visiting there next year.
Do not want antiamerican feelings generated before I get there.

Actually, *your* kind of dimwitted American is what gives us a bad name
all over the world.

You're too late regarding my visiting Costa Rica. Been there, will be
going back again. Who knows, might even buy into my buddy's mini-coffee
plantation/B&B. I don't know that it makes money, but it isn't losing any.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Friends plantation/BB.. uh, cough, er, um.....bull****, er, um...
yeah, no...

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

21' Low Transom CC almost sinks in 3 ft. waves
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


Costa Rica is becoming an increasingly popular place for U.S. retirees.
The cost of living there is very very low, until you buy imported
manufactured goods, and in most areas, the country is peaceful. Costa Rica
has no standing army and has no real enemies in the world. Nice climate,
too.


And a political system styled after the US, complete with rampant
corruption.

I also have friends that have retired there. It's nice, climate wise, but
not paradise.

Eisboch