"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Interestingly it was a lesson future POTUS's didn't forget. Warfare
fought by the US since Vietnam has been no holds bared and the results
are evident. The US military and the technology it possesses is second to
none in the world. It just isn't designed to be a police force or nation
builder.


The military forces of the United States have not faced a serious
adversary in more than 30 years. We may have the most expensive
technology, but there is at least one country on this earth that would
fight us to a draw in a war on or near its turf, and we wouldn't be able
to throw nukes, because they could toss them right back.


Fortunately for all of us, cool heads have prevailed. The closest we came
was the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Eisboch

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Interestingly it was a lesson future POTUS's didn't forget. Warfare
fought by the US since Vietnam has been no holds bared and the results
are evident. The US military and the technology it possesses is second
to none in the world. It just isn't designed to be a police force or
nation builder.

The military forces of the United States have not faced a serious
adversary in more than 30 years.

And that is a bad thing?


No, of course not, but in the fact of that, making outrageous claims about
the abilities of forces not tested against serious adversaries seems a bit
absurd.


Fortunately, there are many gainfully employed people making sure that any
contest won't be one.
Technology has been tested in the hands of respective allies of major
powers. US war making technology always wins, hands down.

And, believe me, we haven't shown our full hand.

Eisboch

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"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Interestingly it was a lesson future POTUS's didn't forget. Warfare
fought by the US since Vietnam has been no holds bared and the results
are evident. The US military and the technology it possesses is second
to none in the world. It just isn't designed to be a police force or
nation builder.

The military forces of the United States have not faced a serious
adversary in more than 30 years.

And that is a bad thing?


No, of course not, but in the fact of that, making outrageous claims
about the abilities of forces not tested against serious adversaries
seems a bit absurd.


I am not an expert on this subject and neither are you. However, I have
no problem relying on the strength of our military regardless of the
opponent.


I am not an expert either but I've had the opportunity to witness some of
the yet to be used technology and future capabilities being developed that
is not readily available to the public. I have a lot of faith in our
ability to defend ourselves against anyone, unless it's one of Tom's
relatives from wherever.

Eisboch

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:16:49 -0500, Eisboch wrote:



Technology has been tested in the hands of respective allies of major
powers. US war making technology always wins, hands down.


You know, I'm not sure about that. It wasn't our technology that won
WWII. It was our incredible industrial strength. For the most part, the
Germans had better weapons systems, just not enough of them. I'll agree
our technology is amazing, but, personally, I hope we never have to find
out if it's enough.

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:16:49 -0500, Eisboch wrote:



Technology has been tested in the hands of respective allies of major
powers. US war making technology always wins, hands down.


You know, I'm not sure about that. It wasn't our technology that won
WWII. It was our incredible industrial strength. For the most part, the
Germans had better weapons systems, just not enough of them. I'll agree
our technology is amazing, but, personally, I hope we never have to find
out if it's enough.

I agree. The Germans were more technically advanced. But that was 60
something years ago. Things have changed.

Eisboch

wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:16:49 -0500, Eisboch wrote:



Technology has been tested in the hands of respective allies of major
powers. US war making technology always wins, hands down.


You know, I'm not sure about that. It wasn't our technology that won
WWII. It was our incredible industrial strength. For the most part, the
Germans had better weapons systems, just not enough of them. I'll agree
our technology is amazing, but, personally, I hope we never have to find
out if it's enough.

Our ability to pick a target, a shed, a tent, an individual vehicle
moving or standing still and destroy it puts fear into the enemy and
breaks their will to fight.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:14:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:16:49 -0500, Eisboch wrote:



Technology has been tested in the hands of respective allies of major
powers. US war making technology always wins, hands down.


You know, I'm not sure about that. It wasn't our technology that won
WWII. It was our incredible industrial strength. For the most part, the
Germans had better weapons systems, just not enough of them. I'll agree
our technology is amazing, but, personally, I hope we never have to find
out if it's enough.

Our ability to pick a target, a shed, a tent, an individual vehicle
moving or standing still and destroy it puts fear into the enemy and
breaks their will to fight.

Especially when we can take out a tank from 3000 meters, at night.