On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:47:33 -0500, HK wrote:




Herring and a few others seem to be overly sensitive about certain
religious matters.

There's much to admire about Joshua, aka Jesus, whether he was real or
not. On the other hand, I find very little to admire in fundamentalist
Christianity because of its insularity, its attempts to convert, and its
small-mindedness.

Why Herring takes that personally I do not know.

Harry, I'm not near the zealot you would have me be. I do, however, find
pretty despicable those who would ridicule or belittle the religious
beliefs of another.
--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:47:33 -0500, HK wrote:




Herring and a few others seem to be overly sensitive about certain
religious matters.

There's much to admire about Joshua, aka Jesus, whether he was real or
not. On the other hand, I find very little to admire in fundamentalist
Christianity because of its insularity, its attempts to convert, and its
small-mindedness.

Why Herring takes that personally I do not know.

Harry, I'm not near the zealot you would have me be. I do, however, find
pretty despicable those who would ridicule or belittle the religious
beliefs of another.
--
John H


I agree with that. Religious beliefs (or lack of) is a personal thing and
really is nobody's else's business. I've known some fundamentalist
Christians and have been approached regarding joining in their faith (saving
souls is part of their belief structure). A gentle, but firm "no thank you"
is all that is required to end the discussion. We remain friends.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:47:33 -0500, HK wrote:



Herring and a few others seem to be overly sensitive about certain
religious matters.

There's much to admire about Joshua, aka Jesus, whether he was real or
not. On the other hand, I find very little to admire in fundamentalist
Christianity because of its insularity, its attempts to convert, and its
small-mindedness.

Why Herring takes that personally I do not know.
Harry, I'm not near the zealot you would have me be. I do, however, find
pretty despicable those who would ridicule or belittle the religious
beliefs of another.
--
John H


I agree with that. Religious beliefs (or lack of) is a personal thing and
really is nobody's else's business. I've known some fundamentalist
Christians and have been approached regarding joining in their faith (saving
souls is part of their belief structure). A gentle, but firm "no thank you"
is all that is required to end the discussion. We remain friends.

Eisboch





That's the whole point. Many Christian religious fundies, just like
Muslim counterparts, want to make *their* religion *your* business, and
if they are not doing it personally, on a one to one basis, they are
doing it by trying to force their beliefs onto society as a whole.

A pox on them to the thousandth generation!

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:14:27 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:47:33 -0500, HK wrote:



Herring and a few others seem to be overly sensitive about certain
religious matters.

There's much to admire about Joshua, aka Jesus, whether he was real or
not. On the other hand, I find very little to admire in fundamentalist
Christianity because of its insularity, its attempts to convert, and its
small-mindedness.

Why Herring takes that personally I do not know.
Harry, I'm not near the zealot you would have me be. I do, however, find
pretty despicable those who would ridicule or belittle the religious
beliefs of another.
--
John H


I agree with that. Religious beliefs (or lack of) is a personal thing and
really is nobody's else's business. I've known some fundamentalist
Christians and have been approached regarding joining in their faith (saving
souls is part of their belief structure). A gentle, but firm "no thank you"
is all that is required to end the discussion. We remain friends.

Eisboch





That's the whole point. Many Christian religious fundies, just like
Muslim counterparts, want to make *their* religion *your* business, and
if they are not doing it personally, on a one to one basis, they are
doing it by trying to force their beliefs onto society as a whole.

A pox on them to the thousandth generation!

Don't unions recruit? They did in the school in which I taught. Don't they
try to force their beliefs on society as a whole?

You, Harry, have the power within you to 'just say no'. Being derogatory
and belittling does nothing for your cause.


--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*

HK wrote in news:kqednX0A-
:

they are
doing it by trying to force their beliefs onto society as a whole.


That also goes for the boys at the Lodge......

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

John H. wrote in
:

Harry, I'm not near the zealot you would have me be. I do, however, find
pretty despicable those who would ridicule or belittle the religious
beliefs of another.
--


Does this also include belittling and ridiculing atheists who choose not to
buy into superstitions?

What about children forced into their parents' religious superstitions? Do
you find that as dispicable as I do? That's child abuse.

Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!

How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:27:52 +0000, Larry wrote:

John H. wrote in
:

Harry, I'm not near the zealot you would have me be. I do, however, find
pretty despicable those who would ridicule or belittle the religious
beliefs of another.
--


Does this also include belittling and ridiculing atheists who choose not to
buy into superstitions?

What about children forced into their parents' religious superstitions? Do
you find that as dispicable as I do? That's child abuse.

Larry

I've not belittled or ridiculed atheists who choose to believe whatever
they believe, and I'd feel the same about anyone who did.

What you define as 'superstition', another may define as 'faith'. What you
define as 'child abuse', another may define as the instilling of values.

--
John H

*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*