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Short Wave Sportfishing December 17th 07 10:45 PM

You Californians...
 
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

JoeSpareBedroom December 17th 07 10:55 PM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719



That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of a
bus.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 17th 07 11:17 PM

You Californians...
 
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of a
bus.


You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

JoeSpareBedroom December 17th 07 11:25 PM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of a
bus.


You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)



Am I your current fantasy, captain?



The Old Bloke December 17th 07 11:45 PM

You Californians...
 
" JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san...me_fireplaces/

Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers
on a charcoal grill?


New houses can no longer have open fireplaces. Closed combustion-type
fireplaces are allowed.

Brisbane, Aus.


Short Wave Sportfishing December 17th 07 11:50 PM

You Californians...
 
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of a
bus.


You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)


Am I your current fantasy, captain?


Not at all.

Just saying. :)

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 12:05 AM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)


Am I your current fantasy, captain?


Not at all.

Just saying. :)



OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj



Arthur[_2_] December 18th 07 12:20 AM

You Californians...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


Yup, that the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.
I dont like to even visit that place anymore.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 12:26 AM

You Californians...
 
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?


Not at all.

Just saying. :)


OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj


Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)

[email protected] December 18th 07 12:27 AM

You Californians...
 
On Dec 17, 5:58 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...

have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san..._nanny_staters...

Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers on
a charcoal grill?


There is a county or county in the Netherlands where there is a tax on
back yard grilling which comes to something like $27 American. The tax
is to offset the CO2 emissions in relation to the environment (global
taxing). The most rediculous part of the whole law was they are
planning on flying a frekin' chopper with IR on hot summer evenings to
find scaflaws. Idiots...

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 12:29 AM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax. com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)


OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj


Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)



Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.



[email protected] December 18th 07 12:29 AM

You Californians...
 
On Dec 17, 7:05 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:to2em3dlbmsttfk9bia2anll8c90pkshgq@4ax .com...





On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back of
a
bus.


You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)


Am I your current fantasy, captain?


Not at all.


Just saying. :)


OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj- Hide quoted text -

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pfffffttttt.....

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 12:32 AM

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wrote in message
...
On Dec 17, 7:05 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:to2em3dlbmsttfk9bia2anll8c90pkshgq@4ax .com...





On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.


You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)


Am I your current fantasy, captain?


Not at all.


Just saying. :)


OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


pfffffttttt.....



I see you've been adding to your vocabulary. Good work. What's on the list
for tomorrow? See Spot poop?



Calif Bill December 18th 07 12:32 AM

You Californians...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


I think it is impossible to get them under control. They have raised
spending 40% in the last 4 years, and we tossed the last Governor cause he
allowed spending to increase 39% under his 4 year watch. But the
Legislature keeps the spendthrifts in power as the control the
Gerrymandering.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 12:34 AM

You Californians...
 
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj


Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)


Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.


LOL!!

I totally understand. I look like that proverbial bus myself, but I
can't do a damn thing about it unless I limit myself to one small baby
carrot in the morning, a spoon of cottage cheese at lunch and a
cracker at night. Due to the meds I take for my arthritis condition,
I can't get rid of the weight - my metabolism has slowed WAY down. As
it is, I only take in about 1200 calories a day and still weigh 250.

And I'm a pretty active type to boot - well, reasonably considering
the fact that I find walking a problem sometimes. I still do a couple
of miles a day and moderate strength stuff.

Hey, I'm used to it now. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 12:34 AM

You Californians...
 
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:27:41 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 17, 5:58 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...

have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san..._nanny_staters...

Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers on
a charcoal grill?


There is a county or county in the Netherlands where there is a tax on
back yard grilling which comes to something like $27 American. The tax
is to offset the CO2 emissions in relation to the environment (global
taxing). The most rediculous part of the whole law was they are
planning on flying a frekin' chopper with IR on hot summer evenings to
find scaflaws. Idiots...


That was an April Fools joke which is now Urban Legend.

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 12:35 AM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:or0em35e9rdk2iidedhi2tnir8rjs9959u@4ax. com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4a x.com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj

Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)


Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past
summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.


LOL!!

I totally understand. I look like that proverbial bus myself, but I
can't do a damn thing about it unless I limit myself to one small baby
carrot in the morning, a spoon of cottage cheese at lunch and a
cracker at night. Due to the meds I take for my arthritis condition,
I can't get rid of the weight - my metabolism has slowed WAY down. As
it is, I only take in about 1200 calories a day and still weigh 250.

And I'm a pretty active type to boot - well, reasonably considering
the fact that I find walking a problem sometimes. I still do a couple
of miles a day and moderate strength stuff.

Hey, I'm used to it now. :)



Is the arthritis the reason for the interest in the bass guitar? Keep the
hands flexible & moving?



Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 12:38 AM

You Californians...
 
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:32:22 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


I think it is impossible to get them under control. They have raised
spending 40% in the last 4 years, and we tossed the last Governor cause he
allowed spending to increase 39% under his 4 year watch. But the
Legislature keeps the spendthrifts in power as the control the
Gerrymandering.


It's called revolution. After all, didn't you guys initiate the tax
revolution with Proposition 13? :)

Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 12:42 AM

You Californians...
 
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:35:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:or0em35e9rdk2iidedhi2tnir8rjs9959u@4ax .com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4 ax.com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj

Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)

Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past
summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.


LOL!!

I totally understand. I look like that proverbial bus myself, but I
can't do a damn thing about it unless I limit myself to one small baby
carrot in the morning, a spoon of cottage cheese at lunch and a
cracker at night. Due to the meds I take for my arthritis condition,
I can't get rid of the weight - my metabolism has slowed WAY down. As
it is, I only take in about 1200 calories a day and still weigh 250.

And I'm a pretty active type to boot - well, reasonably considering
the fact that I find walking a problem sometimes. I still do a couple
of miles a day and moderate strength stuff.

Hey, I'm used to it now. :)


Is the arthritis the reason for the interest in the bass guitar? Keep the
hands flexible & moving?


10-4.

I discussed this with Tim - all my guitars, with the exception of the
'66 Strat, have wider than normal necks and I'm finding it difficult
to play as more nodes appear in the fingers.

The Strat is worth some bucks, so I generally don't play it - same
thing with my autographed Country Gentleman.

Thus, switching over to bass.

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 12:45 AM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:35:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:to2em3dlbmsttfk9bia2anll8c90pkshgq@4ax. com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:or0em35e9rdk2iidedhi2tnir8rjs9959u@4a x.com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@ 4ax.com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the
back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes
a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj

Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)

Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past
summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an
inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.

LOL!!

I totally understand. I look like that proverbial bus myself, but I
can't do a damn thing about it unless I limit myself to one small baby
carrot in the morning, a spoon of cottage cheese at lunch and a
cracker at night. Due to the meds I take for my arthritis condition,
I can't get rid of the weight - my metabolism has slowed WAY down. As
it is, I only take in about 1200 calories a day and still weigh 250.

And I'm a pretty active type to boot - well, reasonably considering
the fact that I find walking a problem sometimes. I still do a couple
of miles a day and moderate strength stuff.

Hey, I'm used to it now. :)


Is the arthritis the reason for the interest in the bass guitar? Keep the
hands flexible & moving?


10-4.

I discussed this with Tim - all my guitars, with the exception of the
'66 Strat, have wider than normal necks and I'm finding it difficult
to play as more nodes appear in the fingers.

The Strat is worth some bucks, so I generally don't play it - same
thing with my autographed Country Gentleman.

Thus, switching over to bass.



Bass may give you a narrower neck, but you'll need more force to play it.
You'll also utilize less fingers most of the time, so it may not give you
the workout all the fingers need.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 12:49 AM

You Californians...
 
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:45:34 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:35:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:to2em3dlbmsttfk9bia2anll8c90pkshgq@4ax .com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:or0em35e9rdk2iidedhi2tnir8rjs9959u@4 ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n @4ax.com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the
back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes
a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj

Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)

Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past
summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an
inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.

LOL!!

I totally understand. I look like that proverbial bus myself, but I
can't do a damn thing about it unless I limit myself to one small baby
carrot in the morning, a spoon of cottage cheese at lunch and a
cracker at night. Due to the meds I take for my arthritis condition,
I can't get rid of the weight - my metabolism has slowed WAY down. As
it is, I only take in about 1200 calories a day and still weigh 250.

And I'm a pretty active type to boot - well, reasonably considering
the fact that I find walking a problem sometimes. I still do a couple
of miles a day and moderate strength stuff.

Hey, I'm used to it now. :)

Is the arthritis the reason for the interest in the bass guitar? Keep the
hands flexible & moving?


10-4.

I discussed this with Tim - all my guitars, with the exception of the
'66 Strat, have wider than normal necks and I'm finding it difficult
to play as more nodes appear in the fingers.

The Strat is worth some bucks, so I generally don't play it - same
thing with my autographed Country Gentleman.

Thus, switching over to bass.


Bass may give you a narrower neck, but you'll need more force to play it.
You'll also utilize less fingers most of the time, so it may not give you
the workout all the fingers need.


Good point.

Hmmm - maybe a keyboard or a new Telecaster - or whatever they are
calling them now.

[email protected] December 18th 07 12:55 AM

You Californians...
 
On Dec 17, 7:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Dec 17, 7:05 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.


You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)


Am I your current fantasy, captain?


Not at all.


Just saying. :)


OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj-Hide quoted
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pfffffttttt.....


I see you've been adding to your vocabulary. Good work. What's on the list
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It's a calendar I got from shortwave, it's called "dismissal of the
day" so, you can dismissed in at least 365 different ways this year;)

[email protected] December 18th 07 01:00 AM

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On Dec 17, 7:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:27:41 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Dec 17, 5:58 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...


have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:


http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san..._nanny_staters...


Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers on
a charcoal grill?


There is a county or county in the Netherlands where there is a tax on
back yard grilling which comes to something like $27 American. The tax
is to offset the CO2 emissions in relation to the environment (global
taxing). The most rediculous part of the whole law was they are
planning on flying a frekin' chopper with IR on hot summer evenings to
find scaflaws. Idiots...


That was an April Fools joke which is now Urban Legend.- Hide quoted text -

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corrected... thanks...

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 01:01 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:45:34 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:35:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:29:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19 ...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the
back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90
minutes
a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need
a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj

Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put
advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)

Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past
summer.
That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up an
inch
in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.

LOL!!

I totally understand. I look like that proverbial bus myself, but I
can't do a damn thing about it unless I limit myself to one small baby
carrot in the morning, a spoon of cottage cheese at lunch and a
cracker at night. Due to the meds I take for my arthritis condition,
I can't get rid of the weight - my metabolism has slowed WAY down. As
it is, I only take in about 1200 calories a day and still weigh 250.

And I'm a pretty active type to boot - well, reasonably considering
the fact that I find walking a problem sometimes. I still do a couple
of miles a day and moderate strength stuff.

Hey, I'm used to it now. :)

Is the arthritis the reason for the interest in the bass guitar? Keep
the
hands flexible & moving?

10-4.

I discussed this with Tim - all my guitars, with the exception of the
'66 Strat, have wider than normal necks and I'm finding it difficult
to play as more nodes appear in the fingers.

The Strat is worth some bucks, so I generally don't play it - same
thing with my autographed Country Gentleman.

Thus, switching over to bass.


Bass may give you a narrower neck, but you'll need more force to play it.
You'll also utilize less fingers most of the time, so it may not give you
the workout all the fingers need.


Good point.

Hmmm - maybe a keyboard or a new Telecaster - or whatever they are
calling them now.



Too gentle. Not enough actual movement of the joints. You know what I'm
thinking? Hint: Roosevelt Greer did it in a commercial a million years ago.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 18th 07 01:06 AM

You Californians...
 
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:01:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Too gentle. Not enough actual movement of the joints. You know what I'm
thinking? Hint: Roosevelt Greer did it in a commercial a million years ago.


Chuck a jersey at a kid after he gives me a Coke?

No - that was Mean Joe Greene.

Preach to OJ?

JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 01:09 AM

You Californians...
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:01:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Too gentle. Not enough actual movement of the joints. You know what I'm
thinking? Hint: Roosevelt Greer did it in a commercial a million years
ago.


Chuck a jersey at a kid after he gives me a Coke?

No - that was Mean Joe Greene.

Preach to OJ?



Knitting. And, if you're man enough (like Namath), modeling pantyhose.

Actually, if you want a workout, upright bass would be much better. More
movement, more stretching, AND...


(get ready for the best part)

I think one of the biggest dealers on the East Coast is in CT. I could find
out more, if you're interested. An upright needs more custom setup than an
electric. If done wrong, you end up dead. Literally. Your hands fall off.



Canuck57 December 18th 07 01:34 AM

You Californians...
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 17, 5:58 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...

have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san..._nanny_staters...

Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers
on
a charcoal grill?


There is a county or county in the Netherlands where there is a tax on
back yard grilling which comes to something like $27 American. The tax
is to offset the CO2 emissions in relation to the environment (global
taxing). The most rediculous part of the whole law was they are
planning on flying a frekin' chopper with IR on hot summer evenings to
find scaflaws. Idiots...


That is so anal. Netherlands is cold, having things grow green in January
would be great.

Sooner or later you know we are going to have to fight this insanity. What
boater would not like to go to Leach Lake Minnesota in January to fish! Or
perhaps Hudsons Bay.

Are these idiots so in love with snow for? Canada has tree stumps coming
from glaciers only 7000 years old!
http://www.livescience.com/environme...ee-stumps.html

Given how old this planet is, warming might be just the thing and one whole
lot more normal that your average greeny thinks. Besides, most greeny
people are in it for the green back.




JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 01:37 AM

You Californians...
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
news:3tF9j.272$Tx.139@pd7urf3no...

wrote in message
...
On Dec 17, 5:58 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...

have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san..._nanny_staters...

Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers
on
a charcoal grill?


There is a county or county in the Netherlands where there is a tax on
back yard grilling which comes to something like $27 American. The tax
is to offset the CO2 emissions in relation to the environment (global
taxing). The most rediculous part of the whole law was they are
planning on flying a frekin' chopper with IR on hot summer evenings to
find scaflaws. Idiots...


That is so anal. Netherlands is cold, having things grow green in January
would be great.

Sooner or later you know we are going to have to fight this insanity.
What boater would not like to go to Leach Lake Minnesota in January to
fish! Or perhaps Hudsons Bay.

Are these idiots so in love with snow for? Canada has tree stumps coming
from glaciers only 7000 years old!
http://www.livescience.com/environme...ee-stumps.html

Given how old this planet is, warming might be just the thing and one
whole lot more normal that your average greeny thinks. Besides, most
greeny people are in it for the green back.



Just one problem: The things you think you could enjoy in January might not
be there to enjoy. Everything might change along with the climate. Think
about it: If you want huge pike, you go to Canada, where the winters are
longer than they are here. Why are pike bigger there?



Calif Bill December 18th 07 02:59 AM

You Californians...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax. com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)


OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj


Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)


What ever, that was funny.



Calif Bill December 18th 07 03:02 AM

You Californians...
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:01:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Too gentle. Not enough actual movement of the joints. You know what I'm
thinking? Hint: Roosevelt Greer did it in a commercial a million years
ago.


Chuck a jersey at a kid after he gives me a Coke?

No - that was Mean Joe Greene.

Preach to OJ?



Knitting. And, if you're man enough (like Namath), modeling pantyhose.

Actually, if you want a workout, upright bass would be much better. More
movement, more stretching, AND...


(get ready for the best part)

I think one of the biggest dealers on the East Coast is in CT. I could
find out more, if you're interested. An upright needs more custom setup
than an electric. If done wrong, you end up dead. Literally. Your hands
fall off.


Was needle point, not knitting the Rosie did. My uncle did knitting while
waiting for the next battle while spending WW2 in the South Pacific. Said
it was just knots.



Calif Bill December 18th 07 03:04 AM

You Californians...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:32:22 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


I think it is impossible to get them under control. They have raised
spending 40% in the last 4 years, and we tossed the last Governor cause he
allowed spending to increase 39% under his 4 year watch. But the
Legislature keeps the spendthrifts in power as the control the
Gerrymandering.


It's called revolution. After all, didn't you guys initiate the tax
revolution with Proposition 13? :)


But Senator Perata wants to put a tax on all bullets while banning most
guns. But he has a CCW and made his money as a bail bondsman.



Tim December 18th 07 04:27 AM

You Californians...
 


Bass may give you a narrower neck, but you'll need more force to play it.
You'll also utilize less fingers most of the time, so it may not give you
the workout all the fingers need.-


however, you need more force on the individual strings, (strength) and
with the wider frets (streching) i would think it could be quite
thereputic. Granted you don't have the more precise touch a 6 string
guitar would ahve, but then again, if it gets to the point where the
loss is to predominate for a guitar then bass could be a wlecome
thought.

If a person really wants golf like frustration, or a precise workout,
then pick up a fretless! It'll tell you how your dexterity is, and
grade you like a fine toothed comb! ?:

But granted, i really wouldn't entertain an upright because you end up
gripping the neck, or at least I do. That's one reason I got rid of
mine. OH it was set up really well, but 1) I couldn't really justify
taking up a whole corner of a room to keep it (full 4/4 Kay), and 2)
too much work for the results I was getting.I was moving my arm up and
down the neck like a pump handle and my hand ended up being a
portable capo.


Anyhow. Tom, I wish you well with your decisions.

Tim December 18th 07 04:28 AM

You Californians...
 
On Dec 17, 7:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:01:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"


thinking? Hint: Roosevelt Greer did it in a commercial a million years ago.


Chuck a jersey at a kid after he gives me a Coke?

No - that was Mean Joe Greene.

Preach to OJ?



I liked Bubba Smith with the "easy open cans"

Tim December 18th 07 04:31 AM

You Californians...
 
On Dec 17, 6:34 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:27:41 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Dec 17, 5:58 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...


have got to get control of your government.


http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719


And more insanity from the land of the fruit cakes:


http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/san..._nanny_staters...


Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers on
a charcoal grill?



Dodn't know totally sure or not, but from what I gather, Illinois just
passed an anti-smoking bill to ban smoking in all business as of
1-1-08


Don White December 18th 07 04:36 AM

You Californians...
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Knitting. And, if you're man enough (like Namath), modeling pantyhose.

snip...

If you take that knitting up, you might find a market in here for mitts &
caps this winter.
Cold again up here...need my sandles with cleats (Icers?) every time I take
the dog for his walk in the park.



Vic Smith December 18th 07 05:05 AM

You Californians...
 
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:31:48 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Ban burning wood in fireplaces? What's next, banning cooking hamburgers on
a charcoal grill?



Dodn't know totally sure or not, but from what I gather, Illinois just
passed an anti-smoking bill to ban smoking in all business as of
1-1-08


It's sure. Waitress told me when I was down your way (anywhere south
of the Chicago suburbs is Southern Illinois to me.)
Heard it on the news yesterday too.
Air gets nasty around here when people start lighting off their
fireplaces, especially if the wind is light. Inversion I guess.
Totally different than charcoal cooking a steak or chicken.
More like a house on fire, a house where dogs have been ****ing.
Leaves burning smell a lot better, but that's been against the law
around here for years.
Don't have a fireplace myself, and the only thing I'd care to have one
for is to roast marshmallows. My wife wants a phony fireplace.
So far I've put her off it by saying first we have to buy a phony cave
to put it in.

--Vic

BillP December 18th 07 05:58 AM

You Californians...
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:evudm31fn4hm96fm12ur5svv4gecg3s19n@4ax .com...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

That's already taxed here. We still have people shaped like the back
of
a
bus.

You do know that we've seen pictures of you. :)

Am I your current fantasy, captain?

Not at all.

Just saying. :)

OK, but I'm now eliminating the momentary glitch by walking 90 minutes a
day
with 50 pounds on my back, along with leg & arm weights. If you need a
late
night fantasy, focus on JohnH.:
http://tinyurl.com/2smbuj


Oh - a tad touchy there Dougie.

Tsk - no reason to get snippy just because they could put advertising
on your sides and a destination sign on your forehead.

So to speak. :)



Actually, I've been 170 +/- 2 lbs since college. I hit 188 this past
summer. That's in the process of being fixed. There is no way I will go up
an inch in waste size. Can't happen. Not permissible.



Seeing how you wear your pants, you could easily add 50 lbs without adding
an inch in your waist size.



JoeSpareBedroom December 18th 07 06:11 AM

You Californians...
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Knitting. And, if you're man enough (like Namath), modeling pantyhose.

snip...

If you take that knitting up, you might find a market in here for mitts &
caps this winter.
Cold again up here...need my sandles with cleats (Icers?) every time I
take the dog for his walk in the park.



Cable knit sweaters. Two choices: Irish, or junk from Latin America.



Eisboch December 18th 07 07:16 AM

You Californians...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I discussed this with Tim - all my guitars, with the exception of the
'66 Strat, have wider than normal necks and I'm finding it difficult
to play as more nodes appear in the fingers.

The Strat is worth some bucks, so I generally don't play it - same
thing with my autographed Country Gentleman.

Thus, switching over to bass.


Speaking of guitars, I just spent an hour or so goofing around playing my
Taylor acoustic through the Leslie speaker system. Nice sound. The Taylor
has the new acoustic type pickup that has a distinctive sound and the Leslie
adds a unique touch when you hit the foot pedal to spin the horn.

Eisboch



BAR December 18th 07 11:50 AM

You Californians...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:32:22 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
have got to get control of your government.

http://www.kcbs.com/SF-Considers-a-T...ffeine/1348719

I think it is impossible to get them under control. They have raised
spending 40% in the last 4 years, and we tossed the last Governor cause he
allowed spending to increase 39% under his 4 year watch. But the
Legislature keeps the spendthrifts in power as the control the
Gerrymandering.


It's called revolution. After all, didn't you guys initiate the tax
revolution with Proposition 13? :)


Prop 13 gutted the Calif. schools. Turned them from some of the best to
the worst in the nation.


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