Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 

Why Small Outboards Sink - Low Transoms Cited
 

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:56:35 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.

18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?

Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!

I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles and
then back.

Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.

I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40 gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H

How fast can conditions change 50 miles out from shore on the Atlantic?


You go answer my questions first.
--
John H

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JimH wrote:
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On Dec 14, 7:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them an
offshore boat.
18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?
Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!
I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles
and
then back.
Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.
I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40
gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
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I have heard of guys going across Long Island Sound in as little as 16
footers, I have heard about guys doing it in 12 footers, but I beleive
the guys that told me they did in 16-20 footers. I have even heard of
some guys going out to Block, or the Vinyard, but never 50 miles out.
Not doubting you at all (I would tell you if I was;), just gotta' be
one stupid dude. For the sake of the discussion, I bet my skiff could
do it on a couple of 6 gallon tanks with the 8 horse at hull speed....
if I was stupid;)

Sheesh. I used to run from Woodmont, CT, to Port Jeff over on Long Island
at least once a month during the summer in 14' outboard runabouts with 15
or 18 horse evinrudes. On good days, obviously. The sound was fairly
predictable, and it wasn't 50 miles. In Florida, lots of guys went 20-30
miles offshore in very small boats, but, again, the ocean in Florida is
easier than it is in the mid-Atlantic or off Jersey or Massachusetts.

We are talking the Atlantic, not the Sound. Have you ever seen an 18 footer
50 miles off shore, including an 18' Bayliner?

Regardless of the forecast I would never attempt to cross Lake Erie to
Canada in my 20 footer, even though the Lake is only about 50 miles wide.



No, the farthest out in the Atlantic I have seen an 18-footer is
20-something miles. There were some fishing reefs that far offshore Jax
and St. Augustine that were popular.

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JimH wrote:
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:56:35 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them
an
offshore boat.
18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?
Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!
I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles
and
then back.
Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.
I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40
gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H
How fast can conditions change 50 miles out from shore on the Atlantic?

You go answer my questions first.
--
John H

I would think my question trumps yours John.

If you feel comfortable going out 50 miles offshore onto the Atlantic Ocean
on your 16 footer then you are..........err..........ummmm......well, you
are stupid, even though you may think you have enough fuel for the round
trip.

Is your life insurance paid up?



I've seen a sistership of the boat Herring bought, or is buying. It's
about the same hull size and configuration of a SeaPro 18 CC I owned in
Florida, though I think Herring's boat is a little lighter, with shorter
hullsides. On a calm day in Florida, I might have gone out to the 20
mile reefs, the same as I did with my SeaPro, but only in a small
flotilla of other boats.

I agree that you'd have to be really stupid to head 50 miles out into
the mid-Atlantic in an 18-foot boat.

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:56:35 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:41 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 14, 7:15 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Dec 13, 6:10 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

. I have seen 18'
Bayliners 50 miles offshore, but the mfg'er would never call them
an
offshore boat.

18' bayliner 50 mi. off shore?

Now THAT is taking ones life in their own hands!

I doubt an 18 footer could carry enough fuel to take it out 50 miles
and
then back.

Well, I would say it probably would if you had it full of jerry cans
loaded with gas. And I can imagine there are those who would try it.

I figured my 18'er would do it using about 18-19 gallons. With a 40
gallon
tank, that would leave me half a tank when I got back.

It would have to be an extremely calm day before I'd try it thought!
--
John H

How fast can conditions change 50 miles out from shore on the Atlantic?


You go answer my questions first.
--
John H

I would think my question trumps yours John.

If you feel comfortable going out 50 miles offshore onto the Atlantic Ocean
on your 16 footer then you are..........err..........ummmm......well, you
are stupid, even though you may think you have enough fuel for the round
trip.

Is your life insurance paid up?


Reading comprehension problems, Jim?
--
John H

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:49:59 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:01:29 -0500, HK
wrote:

Reggie likes to "dish it out," but he sure can't take it, eh?
That sounds familiar.

What well known boater first said that?

Nelson, referring to Villeneuve just before Trafalgar.

LOL, yeah but Nelson died and Villeneuve lived. Bad comparision. ;)


Mr. Google.

Harry,
I have read many books on Trafalger,


Sure you did, Reggie. I believe you. Really, I do.

Well now I feel much better, and will sleep well tonight.


I believe you, Reggie. Really, I do.

This is how narcissists respond when they are cornered and can't
acknowledge the truth.

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Don White wrote:
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:29:57 -0400, "Don White"
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:44:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:58:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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You folks really know how to pile it on.

Time to drop it already.............

http://www.eisboch.com/snowmoon.gif

Eisboch

Whatever.

You just uttered the most famous word in an 8th grade classroom! Did
you
know that?
Whaaaaaaaattttttttevvvverrrrr.
Damn, you're good. You got it perfectly. I hope you had an appropriate
sneer on your face also!
--
John H
Get a room and consummate your 'union'!

Hello Don!

How's everything going? Hope you're having a good day!

Did someone say something offensive to or about you?
--
John H

Well.. for the Christmas Season I'd appreciate it if you'd pucker up to
Waylon's butt in private.
Decent , law abiding folk do read this newsgroup.



You're quick with the gay responses, Donnie. Not that there's anything
wrong with that.

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"Dan" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:29:57 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:44:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
[email protected] wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:58:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" ask wrote in message
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You folks really know how to pile it on.

Time to drop it already.............

http://www.eisboch.com/snowmoon.gif

Eisboch

Whatever.

You just uttered the most famous word in an 8th grade classroom! Did
you
know that?
Whaaaaaaaattttttttevvvverrrrr.
Damn, you're good. You got it perfectly. I hope you had an appropriate
sneer on your face also!
--
John H
Get a room and consummate your 'union'!

Hello Don!

How's everything going? Hope you're having a good day!

Did someone say something offensive to or about you?
--
John H

Well.. for the Christmas Season I'd appreciate it if you'd pucker up to
Waylon's butt in private.
Decent , law abiding folk do read this newsgroup.

You're quick with the gay responses, Donnie. Not that there's anything
wrong with that.

Yes, I won't hold your alternate lifestyle against you....as long as you
stay well away from me.

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:50:58 -0500, HK wrote:

In Florida, lots of guys
went 20-30 miles offshore in very small boats

That's true and they still do, and every year some of them go missing
or are found capsized. Clint Eastwood knows how to describe this
phenomenon:

"Are you feeling lucky" ?

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:32:08 -0500, HK wrote:

How fast can conditions change 50 miles out from shore on the Atlantic?

That's not the right question.

The issue is how much can conditions change while you are returning
from xx miles offshore. If you typically get 30 minutes warning
before a severe thunderstorm, and it's going to take 2 hours to get
back into port, those are not very good odds.