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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I
might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. Looking along the lines of a Catalina 22 +/- or similar. Last time I toured that area (2 yrs ago), I saw a couple boat storage yards with For Sale signs on quite a few boats. I wasn't shopping then though. I don't know if I can find those same storage yards again, but I'll try. Meanwhile, is there an area in particular where I need to look? Or Brokers I need to put on my shopping list? Or other suggestions? TIA, Rick |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"HK" wrote in message . .. lid wrote: I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. Looking along the lines of a Catalina 22 +/- or similar. Last time I toured that area (2 yrs ago), I saw a couple boat storage yards with For Sale signs on quite a few boats. I wasn't shopping then though. I don't know if I can find those same storage yards again, but I'll try. Meanwhile, is there an area in particular where I need to look? Or Brokers I need to put on my shopping list? Or other suggestions? TIA, Rick If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. Ah ha! I always thought Waylon Smithers had 'training wheels' on his imaginary boat....... now I realize it's to help roll along the lake bottom. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
PhantMan wrote:
I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. HK wrote: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home. Thanks, Rick |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:16:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
rpsmithersIII wrote: Make sure you contact Snug Harbor, they represent Catalina on Lake Lanier and will have brokered boats available. Been there. I think I can find 'em again. I'll give 'em a call for directions though. The link below are some FSBO catalina boats located on Lanier http://www.strictlysailing.com/catalina/catalina.cfm Good show! Thanks Rick |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
HK wrote:
I'd bet boats are going for give-away prices on dry LAke LAnier. I have no clue but I intend to find out :-) Rick |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
HK wrote in
: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. .......and a RETRACTABLE CENTERBOARD!! Larry -- Merry Christmas! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
lid wrote in
: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:16:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" rpsmithersIII wrote: Make sure you contact Snug Harbor, they represent Catalina on Lake Lanier and will have brokered boats available. Been there. I think I can find 'em again. I'll give 'em a call for directions though. The link below are some FSBO catalina boats located on Lanier http://www.strictlysailing.com/catalina/catalina.cfm Good show! Thanks Rick Brokers will ask "What Drought?" and try to hold up the prices. Here's a better place with much lower commissions: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/ Just change atlanta to your favorite city for more local listings. Craig's List is a great place to advertise and buy anything.... Larry -- Merry Christmas! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
lid wrote in
: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:16:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" rpsmithersIII wrote: Make sure you contact Snug Harbor, they represent Catalina on Lake Lanier and will have brokered boats available. Been there. I think I can find 'em again. I'll give 'em a call for directions though. The link below are some FSBO catalina boats located on Lanier http://www.strictlysailing.com/catalina/catalina.cfm Good show! Thanks Rick http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/503616628.html McGregor 22, with dockspace available, $2200....cheep! Larry -- Merry Christmas! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
lid wrote in
: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:16:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" rpsmithersIII wrote: Make sure you contact Snug Harbor, they represent Catalina on Lake Lanier and will have brokered boats available. Been there. I think I can find 'em again. I'll give 'em a call for directions though. The link below are some FSBO catalina boats located on Lanier http://www.strictlysailing.com/catalina/catalina.cfm Good show! Thanks Rick Here's a 24' with a trailer, in Flower Branch for $1800... http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/503599252.html How about a '65 Evinrude Playmate that looks like it was NEVER USED and always inside?! $3995. Not used in 2 years...or ever! http://atlanta.craigslist.org/boa/502851707.html Love that 65 DASHBOARD with rearview mirror!...Looks like a LINCOLN! That's it....I gotta quit lookin' before I git in trouble...geez, stupid.... Larry -- Merry Christmas! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Dec 10, 4:34 pm, HK wrote:
wrote: PhantMan wrote: I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. HK wrote: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home. Thanks, Rick I'd bet boats are going for give-away prices on dry LAke LAnier. Lake Lanier's not dry. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Dec 11, 9:15 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: wrote: On Dec 10, 4:34 pm, HK wrote: wrote: PhantMan wrote: I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. HK wrote: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home. Thanks, Rick I'd bet boats are going for give-away prices on dry LAke LAnier. Lake Lanier's not dry. Let's not confuse the issue with facts. Harry was just trying to to mess with me, but between the drought, the time of the year, and the mortgage mess, it is a good time to be a buyer, and a terrible time to be a seller.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't forget gas prices... |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Dec 11, 9:15 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: wrote: On Dec 10, 4:34 pm, HK wrote: wrote: PhantMan wrote: I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. HK wrote: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home. Thanks, Rick I'd bet boats are going for give-away prices on dry LAke LAnier. Lake Lanier's not dry. Let's not confuse the issue with facts. Harry was just trying to to mess with me, but between the drought, the time of the year, and the mortgage mess, it is a good time to be a buyer, and a terrible time to be a seller.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I just recently bought a sail boat, and I agree that it's a damned good time to buy a boat here! I'm thinking about a newer bass boat, too. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
s something you can't pass up. I know of a two year old loaded Ranger Z-21 w/250 Merc Optimax, less than 50 hours, for $30K and if the boat doesn't sell by the end of January, it can be had for $27K. Guy will sell it for what he owes if necessary. And there are more and more boats like it coming up every day - Triton, Stratos - heck, I even saw a Gambler at a price I even thought about. Out of curiosity, what kind of bass boat do you run now? As ARM went up, disposable income has taken a hit for many, and the boat HAS to go. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Dec 11, 11:28 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:54:42 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 11, 9:15 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: wrote: On Dec 10, 4:34 pm, HK wrote: wrote: PhantMan wrote: I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. HK wrote: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home. Thanks, Rick I'd bet boats are going for give-away prices on dry LAke LAnier. Lake Lanier's not dry. Let's not confuse the issue with facts. Harry was just trying to to mess with me, but between the drought, the time of the year, and the mortgage mess, it is a good time to be a buyer, and a terrible time to be a seller.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I just recently bought a sail boat, and I agree that it's a damned good time to buy a boat here! I'm thinking about a newer bass boat, too. Hold off if you can for another month or two - that is unless you stumble across something you can't pass up. Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts coming back up?! I know of a two year old loaded Ranger Z-21 w/250 Merc Optimax, less than 50 hours, for $30K and if the boat doesn't sell by the end of January, it can be had for $27K. Guy will sell it for what he owes if necessary. Take a look at Craigslist for the Atlanta area, there are a lot of any kind of boat for sale here, from bass boats to houseboats! And there are more and more boats like it coming up every day - Triton, Stratos - heck, I even saw a Gambler at a price I even thought about. I don't get out enough to spend a big bunch of money on a bass boat anymore. Out of curiosity, what kind of bass boat do you run now?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've got a Chaparral with a 135 Evinrude. I'd like to get something a little newer, and with a few more features. The Chaparral doesn't seem as stable when you are fishing on the side of it and some of the other makes. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Dec 11, 6:18�am, wrote:
On Dec 11, 9:15 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: wrote: On Dec 10, 4:34 pm, HK wrote: wrote: PhantMan wrote: I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier. HK �wrote: If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with wheels to run along the dry lake bed. You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home. Thanks, Rick I'd bet boats are going for give-away prices on dry LAke LAnier. Lake Lanier's not dry. Let's not confuse the issue with facts. �Harry was just trying to to mess with me, but between the drought, the time of the year, and the mortgage mess, it is a good time to be a buyer, and a terrible time to be a seller.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't forget gas prices...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Phooey on gas prices. People have been predicting that gas prices would put an end to boating ever since they first rose to 50-cents a gallon. Anybody who can realistically afford to own a boat should be able to afford to fuel it. The era of the twin 460 cid gasoline V8's powering a 25,000 pound boat is probably over, but I think most folks who say they are getting out of boating due to fuel prices are simply looking for an excuse. There are a lot of ways to enjoy boating without burning $250 an hour in fuel, especially when discussing sailboats. Fuel prices may change how we boat, and may deter people who actually think fuel is one of the larger budget considerations from taking up the pastime- but fuel prices are unlikely to drive many enthusiastic boaters away from the hobby. At least, IMO. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote: Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts coming back up?! Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices. Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water - he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat or use gas engines. I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of the Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for the rest of the winter. I am going to negotiate that. I'll say, "Sure, if you will reimburse me for the 550 gallons of diesel fuel on board". Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Phooey on gas prices. People have been predicting that gas prices would put an end to boating ever since they first rose to 50-cents a gallon. Anybody who can realistically afford to own a boat should be able to afford to fuel it. The era of the twin 460 cid gasoline V8's powering a 25,000 pound boat is probably over, but I think most folks who say they are getting out of boating due to fuel prices are simply looking for an excuse. There are a lot of ways to enjoy boating without burning $250 an hour in fuel, especially when discussing sailboats. Fuel prices may change how we boat, and may deter people who actually think fuel is one of the larger budget considerations from taking up the pastime- but fuel prices are unlikely to drive many enthusiastic boaters away from the hobby. At least, IMO. ------------------------------------------------- I have no complaints about fuel prices if we keep the GB for a while. Unless I take it south, I'll probably spend more on fuel for my JD tractor over the next couple of years. Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:58:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote: Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts coming back up?! Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices. Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water - he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat or use gas engines. I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of the Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for the rest of the winter. Oh oh - fly in the ointment. I am going to negotiate that. I'll say, "Sure, if you will reimburse me for the 550 gallons of diesel fuel on board". Is your slip worth $2,300 (using the last diesel price I saw at a marina) for the winter? |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Dec 11, 2:48 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:12:54 -0800 (PST), wrote: Why, you think they'll go down more? What if the lake level starts coming back up?! Lake Schmake - it ain't the lake level - it's gas and mortgage prices. Despite Chuck's opinon, which I respect, folks ain't gonna be able to afford gas unless your in a position were it truly can't hurt you if you spend $200 a tank for a weekend. Chuck's view is skewed by the fact that he doesn't have to spend money getting his boat to the water - he's in a whole different strata than those of us who trailer boat or use gas engines. That's true. It does take alot to get the boat splashed these days. And when I moved here, it was a nice, country-ish type of drive to get to Lanier. Then they built a HUGE freakin mall right in the way. I remember still driving on the old road, thinking, what to hell are they building a mall way out here for? Well, I guess someone knew that if you build it, they will come: http://www.simon.com/mall/default.aspx?ID=208 It's nice to drive towing a boat through that hell! |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Is your slip worth $2,300 (using the last diesel price I saw at a marina) for the winter? The winter "wet" storage fee for the slip is about $1,400 . We "own" the slip from April 1st to November 1st, but still have to pay for it's use during the off-season if we elect wet storage. If the Nav sells, we will keep the slip and just lease it out. Seasonal rental for that slip is $9,845.00. If I lease it privately I can negotiate the price and all proceeds go to us. If I elect to have Kingman lease it, (which I would do), they take a 15% commission with the balance sent to us. BTW, $1,400 isn't bad for storage of a 52 foot boat around here. Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Oh oh - fly in the ointment. This is the biggest concern I have about trying to sell a larger boat. Slips are not all that available and it's an issue that many buyers think of last. This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy. Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Oh oh - fly in the ointment. This is the biggest concern I have about trying to sell a larger boat. Slips are not all that available and it's an issue that many buyers think of last. This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy. Eisboch If you are going to replace it with a smaller 49 foot GB why are you even considering selling it? I figure that if there is a god, she made it snow and she can shovel it off. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"HK" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Oh oh - fly in the ointment. This is the biggest concern I have about trying to sell a larger boat. Slips are not all that available and it's an issue that many buyers think of last. This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy. Eisboch If you are going to replace it with a smaller 49 foot GB why are you even considering selling it? I figure that if there is a god, she made it snow and she can shovel it off. Works for me. What the hell are you talking about? Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"HK" wrote in message . .. Trawler-type is correct. A "proper" trawler is displacement only, not semi-displacement and capable of planing with normal engines. Check out American Tugs, too. I have. And am continuing. Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
"HK" wrote in message . .. Trawler-type is correct. A "proper" trawler is displacement only, not semi-displacement and capable of planing with normal engines. Check out American Tugs, too. There aren't too many GB's out there that can plane with normal engines. Eisboch |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:10:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Right now a Nordic Tug has caught my interest. And so it begins... |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:18:38 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Oh oh - fly in the ointment. This is the biggest concern I have about trying to sell a larger boat. Slips are not all that available and it's an issue that many buyers think of last. This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy. Eisboch If you are going to replace it with a smaller 49 foot GB why are you even considering selling it? I figure that if there is a god, she made it snow and she can shovel it off. Works for me. What the hell are you talking about? Snow. Heck, even I understood that. Of course how relevant it was to the thread - well... :) |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Trawler-type is correct. A "proper" trawler is displacement only, not semi-displacement and capable of planing with normal engines. Check out American Tugs, too. I have. And am continuing. Eisboch Er, NOT capable of planing with normal engines. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:33:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding a slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy. Annapolis is very tight, and this is not the ideal time of year to be making a delivery run down the Jersey shore. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:10:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
But first, model numbers don't always reflect the actual LOA. I don't know what the official LOA is of a 49 GB, but I think it's a little bit bigger. WayneB would know. The actual LOA counting the swim platform and bow pulpit is closer to 54 ft. That is a confidential number of course. :-) What really counts is how big the boat "lives", and how easy is it to handle. The GB49 scores well on both counts. I took ours out for a quick spin by myself yesterday and had no issues at all. I've done it several other times just to keep in practice. |
Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:10:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
I'd consider a GB 49 .... but it's not my first choice. If we go the trawler type boat, I want to stay with a single screw, weird as it may sound. Right now a Nordic Tug has caught my interest. Harumph. I would not part with my second engine or flybridge for anything, not even a fake smoke stack. |
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