Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:33:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

This potential buyer is from the Annapolis area. I don't know what slip
availability is down there. I know that in our neck of the woods, finding
a
slip for a 52 foot boat isn't easy.

Annapolis is very tight, and this is not the ideal time of year to be
making a delivery run down the Jersey shore.


He wants to leave it here at Kingman for the winter and take it to Annapolis
in the spring.
Just got word, they are coming up next Wednesday (Dec 19th) for the survey
and short sea trial.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:17:06 -0500, HK wrote:

A "proper" trawler is displacement only, not
semi-displacement and capable of planing with normal engines.

Trust me, a GB49 is displacement only with normal engines. I don't
know what it would take to get it on plane but it's a lot more than
the 560 total hp that we've got.

A GB42 will plane at 14+ kts with comparable horsepower but people I
know say that the boat does not handle well at those speeds.

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:10:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

But first, model numbers don't always reflect the actual LOA. I don't
know
what the official LOA is of a 49 GB, but I think it's a little bit bigger.
WayneB would know.

The actual LOA counting the swim platform and bow pulpit is closer to
54 ft. That is a confidential number of course. :-)

What really counts is how big the boat "lives", and how easy is it to
handle. The GB49 scores well on both counts. I took ours out for a
quick spin by myself yesterday and had no issues at all. I've done it
several other times just to keep in practice.


You are back at your home port?

I miss many posts due to going back and forth between the house and the
boat. I usually just hit the "catch up" on the computer I haven't used for
a few days.

Eisboch

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:10:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I'd consider a GB 49 .... but it's not my first choice. If we go the
trawler type boat, I want to stay with a single screw, weird as it may
sound. Right now a Nordic Tug has caught my interest.

Harumph.

I would not part with my second engine or flybridge for anything, not
even a fake smoke stack.


LOL.

We'll see. You know what I like about the Nordic Tug? It has a genuine
wheelhouse that is somewhat separate from the rest of the boat.

Little thing, but I like that.

Eisboch

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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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lid wrote:
I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I
might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier.
Looking along the lines of a Catalina 22 +/- or similar. Last time I
toured that area (2 yrs ago), I saw a couple boat storage yards with
For Sale signs on quite a few boats. I wasn't shopping then though. I
don't know if I can find those same storage yards again, but I'll try.
Meanwhile, is there an area in particular where I need to look? Or
Brokers I need to put on my shopping list? Or other suggestions?
TIA,
Rick

If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat with
wheels to run along the dry lake bed.


Ah ha! I always thought Waylon Smithers had 'training wheels' on his
imaginary boat....... now I realize it's to help roll along the lake bottom.



The puppy said "Ah ha!". Ask your boy if that's cool when he's got a
minute for you.

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"Dan" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
lid wrote:
I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I
might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier.
Looking along the lines of a Catalina 22 +/- or similar. Last time I
toured that area (2 yrs ago), I saw a couple boat storage yards with
For Sale signs on quite a few boats. I wasn't shopping then though. I
don't know if I can find those same storage yards again, but I'll try.
Meanwhile, is there an area in particular where I need to look? Or
Brokers I need to put on my shopping list? Or other suggestions?
TIA,
Rick

If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat
with wheels to run along the dry lake bed.


Ah ha! I always thought Waylon Smithers had 'training wheels' on his
imaginary boat....... now I realize it's to help roll along the lake
bottom.

The puppy said "Ah ha!". Ask your boy if that's cool when he's got a
minute for you.

....and speaking about slithering along the bottom.............

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:54:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

You are back at your home port?

Yes, we got home a week ago last Saturday. The trip was pretty
uneventful except for one rough night south of Beaufort, NC. We ran
offshore non-stop from Southport, NC to Fernandina Beach, FL; Florida
ICW to Ft Pierce anchoring at night; and then back outside to Hawk
Channel and the Keys.

Here's a re-post from up in the Carolinas on November 18:

==================================================

Happiness is heading south on the boat after a long cruise north this
summer. We are presently off the coast of Myrtle Beach, SC doing a
very leisurely 7 knots at our single engine, super economy speed,
carefully timed to get us into Fernandina Beach, Florida just after
sunrise on Tuesday. It will be good to be back in warm sunny weather
again. Last night it was two heaters on the flybridge with the
enclosure zipped up. Tonight it's a lot warmer and calmer. Thanks to
the magic of a Sprint USB air card I'm able to keep one eye on the
radar and surf the internet with the other. Our faithful autopilot is
steering dead straight courses through it all.

The last of the mechanical work on the port engine and stbd tranny was
finished up around noon time on Friday. We went out for a quick sea
trial (actually the second one) with the mechanics on board, declared
everything working, returned to the dock, returned the rental car,
made a substantial contribution to the North Carolina Detroit Diesel
health and welfare fund, and started heading south again.

Not having much time left on Friday we made a short run about halfway
down Pamlico Sound, behind the Outer Banks. Pamlico is a beautiful,
shallow, and nearly desolate body of water, especially this time of
year. The weather was sunny and crisp with the nighttime temperatures
down in the low 40s. We anchored out in a totally deserted cove near
the mouth of the Long Shoal River, arriving just after sunset. It was
like we were a million miles from anywhere with no shore lights, and
no cell phone or internet service. I used the SSB radio to send up a
position report, get the latest weather maps and then we retired to
the comfort of the aft cabin and electric blanket. It would have been
very chilly without it.

Saturday morning we got underway just after sunrise on another bright
crisp day. We proceeded down the remaining half of Pamlico Sound,
made a turn westward into the Neuse River, rejoined the ICW, and
popped out into the Atlantic just before sunset after a scenic run
down Adams Creek into Beaufort, NC. Coming onto the ocean at sunset
we were greeted by a nasty set of 4 to 5 ft short interval waves as
the outgoing tide met the incoming sou'wester. Our original plan was
to head directly offshore from Beaufort to the Cape Fear Shoals
cut-through channel, and keep going south from there. It turned out
to be a dark and stormy night however as the sou'wester persisted
longer than forecast, and the choppy little 4 to 5 footers morphed
into nasty five to sixes that were right in our teeth. It was
definitely a "high transom" kind of night for those who follow the
running jokes and jibes on "rec.boats".

After a few hours of bashing and crashing we switched to Plan B and
altered course to Masonboro Inlet, a little south of Wilmington, NC.
Fortunately we had also gone through Masonboro on the trip north so I
had a good track line and saved GPS way points to help us through the
breakwaters in the dark. The seas flattened out as we approched the
coast and everything went well at the inlet as we arrived at 2:00AM.
Sometimes your good, sometimes your lucky, and sometimes your good and
lucky. Whatever it was, we found a good place to anchor for the night
not too far from a smallish cruising sailboat, the only other occupant
of the cove. We grabbed 4 hours of well needed sleep and got underway
again early this morning. Mrs B recognized the name on the cruising
sailboat as the one she had heard calling USCG for navigational
assistance the night before. As we speak, the same sailboat is
aground somewhere near Cape Fear Shoals, taking on water, and getting
help from USCG and SeaTow. Hopefully they're OK but it doesn't sound
good from what we can hear on the VHF radio.

Meanwhile we'll go by Georgetown and Winyah Bay later tonight, and
Charleston somtime tomorrow. We'll turn ito Charleston if we get too
tired or the weather deteriorates but right now things are looking
good for a non-stop passage into northern Florida. We're standing 3
hour watches, seeing each other mostly at meal time.

================================================== =

We got into Fernandina Beach as planned, rested up, rented a car for a
few days to celebrate Thanksgiving with Mrs Bs family, and then headed
south again on the boat.

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:58:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

You know what I like about the Nordic Tug? It has a genuine
wheelhouse that is somewhat separate from the rest of the boat.

Yes, a lot of the semi-serious passagemaking trawlers have a separate
pilot house, sometimes with something called a Portugese Bridge out in
front.

Do you subscribe to any of the trawler or passagemaking lists? There
is a wealth of information out there from people who own, or have
owned, just about everything you can imagine.

You can search the list archives by key word using Google. For
example, searching on "Nordic Tug":

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q... Google+Search

or

http://tinyurl.com/29tdbd or Google: site:samurai.com Nordic Tug
etc.

Have you looked at the Selenes, Flemmings, Kady-Krogens or Nordhavns?

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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:15:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Have you looked at the Selenes, Flemmings, Kady-Krogens or Nordhavns?

Cars?

How did we get off boats and onto cars? :)

I like the looks of this one.

http://flemingyachts.com/fleming55.html

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:04:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:15:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Have you looked at the Selenes, Flemmings, Kady-Krogens or Nordhavns?

Cars?

How did we get off boats and onto cars? :)

I like the looks of this one.

http://flemingyachts.com/fleming55.html

Yes, they are pretty nice boats.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:15:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Have you looked at the Selenes, Flemmings, Kady-Krogens or Nordhavns?

Cars?

How did we get off boats and onto cars? :)

I like the looks of this one.

http://flemingyachts.com/fleming55.html

How about carboats?
http://www.amphicars.com/acpics.htm

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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:19:31 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

How about carboats?
http://www.amphicars.com/acpics.htm

See picture of "UK Amphicar number 2" for information on certain
structural and maintenance issues.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:19:31 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

How about carboats?
http://www.amphicars.com/acpics.htm

See picture of "UK Amphicar number 2" for information on certain
structural and maintenance issues.


I saw that.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Cars?
How did we get off boats and onto cars? :)

I think I can help here.
It all started with:

PhantMan wrote:
thought I
might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier.

Next post was:
If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat
with wheels to run along the dry lake bed.

Remember now? ;-)

Rick

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:15:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Have you looked at the Selenes, Flemmings, Kady-Krogens or Nordhavns?

Cars?

How did we get off boats and onto cars? :)

I like the looks of this one.

http://flemingyachts.com/fleming55.html

Hey, when the hell are you moving south?

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

lid wrote:
PhantMan wrote:

I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I
might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier.


HK wrote:

If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat
with wheels to run along the dry lake bed.


You must be a mind reader. I'll need wheels. Not for Lake Lanier, but
for sailing 400 miles down I-85 to I-65 to I-10 and home.
Thanks,
Rick


There is a place in Buford Ga near Lanier that corries some small
sailboats. But I can't recall the name. It is just north of a dealership
called "Boating Atlanta" on buford hwy.

http://www.boatingatlanta.com/

Boating Atlanta carries some sailboats as well. I would also look down
Holiday Road. Lots of boat dealers (new and used) there.

Capt Jack R..

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Jack Redington wrote:
There is a place in Buford Ga near Lanier that corries some small
sailboats. But I can't recall the name. It is just north of a dealership
called "Boating Atlanta" on buford hwy.

Wouldn't be Snug Harbor would it? And Buford Hwy, does it run up the
East side of the Lake? or the West side?

I just heard back from my former girlfriend up there who reminded me
of the Marina that has the storage yards I saw. It's Aqualand Marina.
Has quite a few boats in dry storage and has lots of slips as well.
When I was there, the water level was normal. Those slips may be dry
by now I suppose.

I would also look down
Holiday Road. Lots of boat dealers (new and used) there.

Okay, thanks

Rick

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

E
I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of
the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for
the
rest of the winter.
E


'Nother heads up" Marinas usually require a contract review, or
signing when owners change. Proof of liability insurance, and to be
named on the policy. Hope your buyer brings vaseline. Unless you own
the slip, This looks as if it could get messy. Could lose the slip.
Write a separate contract stating that with 30 days notice it will be
returned to you. Notarize, and file at county records. Just MHO Stay
sharp!
Den

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Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
lid wrote:
I'll be in Atlanta for a few days before/after New Years and thought I
might do some window shopping for a smallish sailboat on Lake Lanier.
Looking along the lines of a Catalina 22 +/- or similar. Last time I
toured that area (2 yrs ago), I saw a couple boat storage yards with
For Sale signs on quite a few boats. I wasn't shopping then though. I
don't know if I can find those same storage yards again, but I'll try.
Meanwhile, is there an area in particular where I need to look? Or
Brokers I need to put on my shopping list? Or other suggestions?
TIA,
Rick
If you are intending to sail on Lanier, perhaps you'd want a sailboat
with wheels to run along the dry lake bed.

Ah ha! I always thought Waylon Smithers had 'training wheels' on his
imaginary boat....... now I realize it's to help roll along the lake
bottom.
The puppy said "Ah ha!". Ask your boy if that's cool when he's got a
minute for you.

....and speaking about slithering along the bottom.............



You can justify it however you want, Donnie. Whatever works for you.

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"den" wrote in message
...
E
I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of
the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for
the
rest of the winter.
E


'Nother heads up" Marinas usually require a contract review, or
signing when owners change. Proof of liability insurance, and to be
named on the policy. Hope your buyer brings vaseline. Unless you own
the slip, This looks as if it could get messy. Could lose the slip.
Write a separate contract stating that with 30 days notice it will be
returned to you. Notarize, and file at county records. Just MHO Stay
sharp!
Den



We own the slip. It's winter storage use only.

Eisbch

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Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

On Dec 12, 7:03 pm, wrote:
Jack Redington wrote:
There is a place in Buford Ga near Lanier that corries some small
sailboats. But I can't recall the name. It is just north of a dealership
called "Boating Atlanta" on buford hwy.

Wouldn't be Snug Harbor would it? And Buford Hwy, does it run up the
East side of the Lake? or the West side?

I just heard back from my former girlfriend up there who reminded me
of the Marina that has the storage yards I saw. It's Aqualand Marina.
Has quite a few boats in dry storage and has lots of slips as well.
When I was there, the water level was normal. Those slips may be dry
by now I suppose.

I would also look down
Holiday Road. Lots of boat dealers (new and used) there.

Okay, thanks

Rick

I put my boat in at Aqualand a lot, because theres a couple of places
up Flowery Branch that I like to hit for spotted bass.

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

Sailboat shopping on Lake Lanier
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"den" wrote in message
...
E
I just got a "heads up" from the boat broker. He says the buyer of
the
Navigator is going to request that he be given free use of my slip for
the
rest of the winter.
E


'Nother heads up" Marinas usually require a contract review, or
signing when owners change. Proof of liability insurance, and to be
named on the policy. Hope your buyer brings vaseline. Unless you own
the slip, This looks as if it could get messy. Could lose the slip.
Write a separate contract stating that with 30 days notice it will be
returned to you. Notarize, and file at county records. Just MHO Stay
sharp!
Den



We own the slip. It's winter storage use only.

Eisbch


But the water around the harbor will be frozen most likely and could you get
a renter for the time?