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HK December 3rd 07 10:31 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:35:43 -0500, HK wrote:

I am sure your experiences
with Furuno fishfinders on the flying bridge of your RV are relevant.


We have the Furuno Navnet integrated system which includes a fish
finder/depth sounder, radar and GPS plotter - separate transducer
modules for each, networked into a common display unit. I installed
it myself 3 years and 11,000+ nautical miles ago, and it has never
skipped a beat. Mrs B is not exactly the world's biggest marine
electronics enthusiast but she has nothing but good things to say
about this system.

Have you ever seen a professional crab boat on the Chesapeake that did
not have a Furuno radar? I don't think I have, and that should tell
you something.



A "professional" crab boat?

Hehehe.

Most "professional" crab boats in this area, that is, crab boats with
commercial licenses, are pretty small, 20-30', with very little in the
way of electronics. Typically, they are low-sided inboards with only
enough front cabin to block the wind and mount the hydraulics to pull up
the pots. So, in answer to your question, yes, I have seen dozens of
"professional" crab boats working the bay without a Furuno or any other
brand of radar.

Oh, I have a Garmin "integrated" 4208 system on son of Yo Ho, but I only
use it as a GPS/Plotter, with a separate Ray fishfinder/depthfinder. For
about the same money, I could have bought Furuno gear, but after many
months of looking at units at high-end marine electronics stores, I was
not that impressed with the competing Furuno units. And, as I posted, my
previous Furuno fishfinder was somewhat of a lemon, both the head unit
and the transducers.

On the professional offshore fishing boats I have seen, Furuno, Ray,
and several others have significant market shares.

I don't pay much attention to the electronics on the RV barges. They're
so slow moving, there usually is plenty of time to get out of the way of
their semiconscious drivers.


Dan December 4th 07 12:37 AM

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wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?

Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.


He and Dan aren't bright enough to not accuse someone of something
illegal without any proof.


Leave me out of this, Walter.

Calif Bill December 4th 07 02:22 AM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?

Not from the handyman.

Better than from a pothead.


True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?



Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.

Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on a
pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the pot,
my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support your
habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the drugs
and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated from
San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot. I do
not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers, and I
do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done very well
for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.



JoeSpareBedroom December 4th 07 01:41 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?

Not from the handyman.

Better than from a pothead.

True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?



Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.

Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on
a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the
pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support
your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the
drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated
from San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot.
I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers,
and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done
very well for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.



You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both are
abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to get
money for pot.



HK December 4th 07 01:49 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?

Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.

Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on
a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the
pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support
your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the
drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated
from San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot.
I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers,
and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done
very well for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.



You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both are
abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to get
money for pot.




I sort of dropped out of this discussion, which I initiated. How did it
devolve into an argument about pot?

JoeSpareBedroom December 4th 07 01:52 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?

Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.

Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former
on_lanier, and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is
growing pot on a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies
now. As to the pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you
steal to support your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If
you can afford the drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of
choice. I graduated from San Francisco State University, so knew lots
of people who used pot. I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most
prescription painkillers, and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from
smoking as Altria has done very well for me. Better than RTN and your
other choices.



You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both
are abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to
get money for pot.



I sort of dropped out of this discussion, which I initiated. How did it
devolve into an argument about pot?



I steered it off a cliff after billy bob said "Better than a pothead". Since
I love words, I see "pothead" and wonder why people never say "bourbon head"
or "vodka head". It's always more than just a term learned by habit. It's a
belief based on who-knows-what.



[email protected] December 4th 07 01:55 PM

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On Dec 4, 8:49 am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message


...


On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?


Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.


Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on
a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the
pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support
your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the
drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated
from San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot.
I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers,
and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done
very well for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.


You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both are
abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to get
money for pot.


I sort of dropped out of this discussion, which I initiated. How did it
devolve into an argument about pot?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Another lib was making stuff up and got cornered.... Kinda' like the
guy who said he saw Jesus on a cross at a Christmas parade but would
not for his life tell us what town or any other details;)

HK December 4th 07 02:13 PM

Good Service from Raymarine
 
wrote:
On Dec 4, 8:49 am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?
Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.
Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on
a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the
pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support
your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the
drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated
from San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot.
I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers,
and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done
very well for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.
You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both are
abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to get
money for pot.

I sort of dropped out of this discussion, which I initiated. How did it
devolve into an argument about pot?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Another lib was making stuff up and got cornered.... Kinda' like the
guy who said he saw Jesus on a cross at a Christmas parade but would
not for his life tell us what town or any other details;)



If you are referring to me, I never said I saw "Jesus on a cross at a
Christmas parade."

What I saw in the mid-1990s during a Christmas parade in a small north
Florida town were several floats sponsored by fundie churches on which
were mounted crosses with live guys tied onto them. The guys were acting
out the crucifixion of the Jewish guy Christians refer to as Jesus, I
was told. At least I think that was what I was told, since I was
practically falling to the ground from the spasms caused by my
uncontrollable laughter at the sight, and might have missed the precise
explanation.






[email protected] December 4th 07 02:15 PM

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On Dec 4, 9:13 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 4, 8:49 am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?
Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.
Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on
a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the
pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support
your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the
drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated
from San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot.
I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers,
and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done
very well for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.
You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both are
abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to get
money for pot.
I sort of dropped out of this discussion, which I initiated. How did it
devolve into an argument about pot?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Another lib was making stuff up and got cornered.... Kinda' like the
guy who said he saw Jesus on a cross at a Christmas parade but would
not for his life tell us what town or any other details;)


If you are referring to me, I never said I saw "Jesus on a cross at a
Christmas parade."

What I saw in the mid-1990s during a Christmas parade in a small north
Florida town were several floats sponsored by fundie churches on which
were mounted crosses with live guys tied onto them. The guys were acting
out the crucifixion of the Jewish guy Christians refer to as Jesus, I
was told. At least I think that was what I was told, since I was
practically falling to the ground from the spasms caused by my
uncontrollable laughter at the sight, and might have missed the precise
explanation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think you missed the precise truth;)

HK December 4th 07 02:21 PM

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wrote:
On Dec 4, 9:13 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 4, 8:49 am, HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 1:31 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 2:15 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
You want investment advice?
Not from the handyman.
Better than from a pothead.
True, I'd have to agree with that. Why, are you a pothead, too?
Bill probably thinks pot is a gateway drug, orders of magnitude more
dangerous than booze.
Why do you suppose that? Loogy, the former Atl_man, the former on_lanier,
and the former basskisser seems to think stating that he is growing pot on
a pot newsgroup means he was spouting lies then. Or lies now. As to the
pot, my opinion is legalize and tax most drugs. If you steal to support
your habit, you get an extension to your sentence. If you can afford the
drugs and not be a burden on society, it's freedom of choice. I graduated
from San Francisco State University, so knew lots of people who used pot.
I do not use any drugs, as I get sick with most prescription painkillers,
and I do not smoke. Earn a lot of money from smoking as Altria has done
very well for me. Better than RTN and your other choices.
You do seem to attach a certain stigma or evil to pot, though, which is
silly, since it's really no worse for the body than booze, assuming both are
abused to a certain level. And, it's pretty rare that people steal to get
money for pot.
I sort of dropped out of this discussion, which I initiated. How did it
devolve into an argument about pot?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Another lib was making stuff up and got cornered.... Kinda' like the
guy who said he saw Jesus on a cross at a Christmas parade but would
not for his life tell us what town or any other details;)

If you are referring to me, I never said I saw "Jesus on a cross at a
Christmas parade."

What I saw in the mid-1990s during a Christmas parade in a small north
Florida town were several floats sponsored by fundie churches on which
were mounted crosses with live guys tied onto them. The guys were acting
out the crucifixion of the Jewish guy Christians refer to as Jesus, I
was told. At least I think that was what I was told, since I was
practically falling to the ground from the spasms caused by my
uncontrollable laughter at the sight, and might have missed the precise
explanation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think you missed the precise truth;)




Nope. But if you and the others who doubt this want to put up some real
dollars in order to make the effort worth my while, I will be glad to
expend a little getting details and corroboration.

If so, the amount and the "holder" of the funds would have to be someone
I trust to release the bucks to me after I provide the proof.

I believe I stated I do not know if the practice continues as I
described, nor am I aware of any photos of the event. But I am sure I
could find satisfactory documentation from someone connected with the
sponsoring organizations. They can't all be dead.


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