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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:44:36 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... There is NO logic behind "No Helmet" laws. No. There aren't any "No Helmet" laws that I know of. There *are* many states .... about half .... that have some form of "Helmet Law", although they are slowly being repealed, state by state. I don't know this for a fact, so it's pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that the majority of people that support helmet laws .... don't ride motorcycles. Eisboch That statistic would be meaningless. It would be like asking the general public if those who fire artillery rounds should wear earplugs. -- John H |
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"John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:44:36 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... There is NO logic behind "No Helmet" laws. No. There aren't any "No Helmet" laws that I know of. There *are* many states .... about half .... that have some form of "Helmet Law", although they are slowly being repealed, state by state. I don't know this for a fact, so it's pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that the majority of people that support helmet laws .... don't ride motorcycles. Eisboch That statistic would be meaningless. It would be like asking the general public if those who fire artillery rounds should wear earplugs. Exactly right. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Just be careful. The last thing we need right now is yet another presidential candidate. I will not seek, nor will I accept .... Eisboch If you're a human vegetable, you have no choice. You're drafted. You get a free presidential dog, a speech writer recruited from the rec.guns newsgroup, and you start calling everyone "folks". Please be careful. I don't believe Eisboch is dumb as one has to be to be the next GOP nominee. Remember, Dubya set the GOP standard. |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch My comment was in response to your 'who's head?' That question made no sense whatsoever. If you meant 'who is head', it makes no sense. If you meant 'whose head', it makes no sense. Obviously I'm talking about the head of the motorcyclist. -- John H |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch My comment was in response to your 'who's head?' That question made no sense whatsoever. If you meant 'who is head', it makes no sense. If you meant 'whose head', it makes no sense. Obviously I'm talking about the head of the motorcyclist. -- John H Right. Me too. Eisboch |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:52:55 -0500, Eisboch penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "HK" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: It dropped quickly the last few days here... buoy at harbour mouth says 36.5 F right now. Now that's cold! Climate change. Global cooling. NC...... on December 2nd. We just bought our Chrismahanukwanzakah tree...... Air temperature 71 degrees. Water temperature 71 degrees. That's just wrong. http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/buoy/41013.html Grrrrrr. |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. -- John H |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... NC...... on December 2nd. We just bought our Chrismahanukwanzakah tree...... Air temperature 71 degrees. Water temperature 71 degrees. That's just wrong. http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/buoy/41013.html But, can you water your lawn? Eisboch |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:19:33 -0500, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. Whoops: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/hurt.html -- John H |
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. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Just be careful. The last thing we need right now is yet another presidential candidate. I will not seek, nor will I accept .... Eisboch If you're a human vegetable, you have no choice. You're drafted. You get a free presidential dog, a speech writer recruited from the rec.guns newsgroup, and you start calling everyone "folks". Please be careful. I don't believe Eisboch is dumb as one has to be to be the next GOP nominee. Remember, Dubya set the GOP standard. True, but a head injury could qualify him instantly. That, and a small adjustment with a surgical icepiculum to the frontal lobes. Finally, a few months with a speech pathologist to help with the fake accent, and he'd be as good as elected. |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:19:33 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. Whoops: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/hurt.html -- John H Ya know, why are we discussing this? The most obvious bikers are the ones with the loudest bikes, and unbeknownst to them, everyone wants them dead. Everyone. There are no exceptions, except the two or three of you who will say you are the exceptions. Let them ride without helmets. Hell...let them ride blindfolded. Who cares? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... True, but a head injury could qualify him instantly. That, and a small adjustment with a surgical icepiculum to the frontal lobes. Finally, a few months with a speech pathologist to help with the fake accent, and he'd be as good as elected. Hmmm.... Starting to sound good. How much does it pay? Eisboch |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Ya know, why are we discussing this? The most obvious bikers are the ones with the loudest bikes, and unbeknownst to them, everyone wants them dead. Everyone. There are no exceptions, except the two or three of you who will say you are the exceptions. Let them ride without helmets. Hell...let them ride blindfolded. Who cares? There's hope for you yet. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... True, but a head injury could qualify him instantly. That, and a small adjustment with a surgical icepiculum to the frontal lobes. Finally, a few months with a speech pathologist to help with the fake accent, and he'd be as good as elected. Hmmm.... Starting to sound good. How much does it pay? Eisboch Not enough to compensate for being shunned forever after you leave office. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:08:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If a law went into effect tomorrow that mandated helmets in every state, by how much would your current taxes, vehicle insurance and health insurance premiums be reduced by? I agree with you on this - it wouldn't make a whit of difference. My argument is that the same logic behind no helmet laws should also be applied to seat belts - personal choice. And the odd thing is that the "safety" statistics for seat belt use being more safe than not is highly fabricated and, frankly, false. I really don't care one way or another. I have no idea what the data shows. Why are there such laws in place if it doesn't help? Not trying to argue, just get some points of view. I find it hard to believe that insurance companies, who actually know the cost, would promote anything that would cost them more money. If seat belts and helmets were not safer, insurance companies would aggressively fight against the laws. Insurance companies make more money when they pay out more money. Sounds strange, but everytine they have to pay out more money they raise rates, and they make a percentage of the rates as profit. Higher rates, higher profit. I guess they should be pushing to get rid of air bags, they could really make some big time money. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch My guess is the person who hit the ground with his helmet vs. his head. It seems to me (with my limited medical background) that a head surrounded by a helmet can take more abuse than a head alone. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch My guess is the person who hit the ground with his helmet vs. his head. It seems to me (with my limited medical background) that a head surrounded by a helmet can take more abuse than a head alone. I make it a priority not to find out. Eisboch |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:08:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If a law went into effect tomorrow that mandated helmets in every state, by how much would your current taxes, vehicle insurance and health insurance premiums be reduced by? I agree with you on this - it wouldn't make a whit of difference. My argument is that the same logic behind no helmet laws should also be applied to seat belts - personal choice. And the odd thing is that the "safety" statistics for seat belt use being more safe than not is highly fabricated and, frankly, false. I really don't care one way or another. I have no idea what the data shows. Why are there such laws in place if it doesn't help? Not trying to argue, just get some points of view. I find it hard to believe that insurance companies, who actually know the cost, would promote anything that would cost them more money. If seat belts and helmets were not safer, insurance companies would aggressively fight against the laws. Insurance companies make more money when they pay out more money. Sounds strange, but everytine they have to pay out more money they raise rates, and they make a percentage of the rates as profit. Higher rates, higher profit. I guess they should be pushing to get rid of air bags, they could really make some big time money. Lose more payers. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch My guess is the person who hit the ground with his helmet vs. his head. It seems to me (with my limited medical background) that a head surrounded by a helmet can take more abuse than a head alone. Just keeps the mess retained. |
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On Dec 2, 3:33 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... True, but a head injury could qualify him instantly. That, and a small adjustment with a surgical icepiculum to the frontal lobes. Finally, a few months with a speech pathologist to help with the fake accent, and he'd be as good as elected. Hmmm.... Starting to sound good. How much does it pay? Eisboch Not enough to compensate for being shunned forever after you leave office.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ahhhh, those silly clintons... |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:30:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:19:33 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:6626l35nu1auoptql7ll543hdd2l6l3o85@4ax. com... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. Whoops: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/hurt.html -- John H Ya know, why are we discussing this? The most obvious bikers are the ones with the loudest bikes, and unbeknownst to them, everyone wants them dead. Everyone. There are no exceptions, except the two or three of you who will say you are the exceptions. Let them ride without helmets. Hell...let them ride blindfolded. Who cares? I don't believe anyone wants them dead. Quieter, yes. Dead, no. It's funny, but when I hear of a motorcycle accident on the beltway, there's an extra twinge that doesn't happen when I hear of a car accident. I'm sure Marines feel it for Marines, soldiers for soldiers and so on. -- John H |
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On Dec 2, 4:06 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:30:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:19:33 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:6626l35nu1auoptql7ll543hdd2l6l3o85@4ax. com... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. Whoops:http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/hurt.html -- John H Ya know, why are we discussing this? The most obvious bikers are the ones with the loudest bikes, and unbeknownst to them, everyone wants them dead. Everyone. There are no exceptions, except the two or three of you who will say you are the exceptions. Let them ride without helmets. Hell...let them ride blindfolded. Who cares? I don't believe anyone wants them dead. Quieter, yes. Dead, no. It's funny, but when I hear of a motorcycle accident on the beltway, there's an extra twinge that doesn't happen when I hear of a car accident. I'm sure Marines feel it for Marines, soldiers for soldiers and so on. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you are talking about fundie-libs who indeed wish anyone dead that does not facilitate their own self indulgent aspirations. |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:49:03 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't know this for a fact, so it's pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that the majority of people that support helmet laws .... don't ride motorcycles. Eisboch It should be mandatory. Period. So you believe that it is a proper role of government to protect people from themselves? What do you do when they take away your unsafe, low transom boat? (for your own good, of course) |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:30:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:19:33 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:6626l35nu1auoptql7ll543hdd2l6l3o85@4ax .com... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. Whoops: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/hurt.html -- John H Ya know, why are we discussing this? The most obvious bikers are the ones with the loudest bikes, and unbeknownst to them, everyone wants them dead. Everyone. There are no exceptions, except the two or three of you who will say you are the exceptions. Let them ride without helmets. Hell...let them ride blindfolded. Who cares? I don't believe anyone wants them dead. Quieter, yes. Dead, no. It's funny, but when I hear of a motorcycle accident on the beltway, there's an extra twinge that doesn't happen when I hear of a car accident. I'm sure Marines feel it for Marines, soldiers for soldiers and so on. -- John H The safety debate is not center to my opinion on this helmet subject, but in the spirit of considering other points of view, here's something you may find of interest. http://www.bikersrights.com/statisti...goldstein.html Eisboch |
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wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 11:25 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:08:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If a law went into effect tomorrow that mandated helmets in every state, by how much would your current taxes, vehicle insurance and health insurance premiums be reduced by? I agree with you on this - it wouldn't make a whit of difference. My argument is that the same logic behind no helmet laws should also be applied to seat belts - personal choice. And the odd thing is that the "safety" statistics for seat belt use being more safe than not is highly fabricated and, frankly, false. Every wreck I have been in I have seen seatbelts keep folks in place, in the vehicle and away from the windows.. As a wrecker driver for many years, the only ejections I ever saw were folks with no belts on... I was thrown through the windshield of an ambulance in a 1979 highway crash. Shortly after that, this province had a seatbelt law. Not sure if I can take any credit. |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:54:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
married for 38 years or something .... Um...didn't you say that Mrs. E read rec.boats once in a while? :) |
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:53:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch My guess is the person who hit the ground with his helmet vs. his head. It seems to me (with my limited medical background) that a head surrounded by a helmet can take more abuse than a head alone. I make it a priority not to find out. Ok, let's take a different tack on this. Why do mandatory bicycle helmet laws exist? Largely, because of head injuries. So, assuming that is true, then how does that not also apply to motorcycles? It would seem to me that if head injuries on bicycles (max speeds - 15/17 mph) occur from low speed impacts, then they would also occurr in higher speed accidents involving motorcycles. |
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wrote in message
... On Dec 2, 3:33 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... True, but a head injury could qualify him instantly. That, and a small adjustment with a surgical icepiculum to the frontal lobes. Finally, a few months with a speech pathologist to help with the fake accent, and he'd be as good as elected. Hmmm.... Starting to sound good. How much does it pay? Eisboch Not enough to compensate for being shunned forever after you leave office.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ahhhh, those silly clintons... justwaitafrigginyearandseewhatBushisdoingforwork. More important....look at his history before politics and see if he wrecks another oil company, leaving investors holding the bag. |
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... On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:30:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:19:33 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:59:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:38:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:6626l35nu1auoptql7ll543hdd2l6l3o85@4ax .com... I don't know. But I believe the number of severe head injuries due to motorcycle accidents would go down. Of course they would. Who's head? Eisboch You don't need a helmet! -- John H I asked you how much money you would save by forcing me to wear a helmet. You didn't know. Thank you for your understanding. Eisboch Here are some results of the only extensive study of motorcycle accidents that I'm familiar with. Note #'s 45, 48, 49, and 53. Of side note is number 26 for the anti-countersteering crowd. Whoops: http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/hurt.html -- John H Ya know, why are we discussing this? The most obvious bikers are the ones with the loudest bikes, and unbeknownst to them, everyone wants them dead. Everyone. There are no exceptions, except the two or three of you who will say you are the exceptions. Let them ride without helmets. Hell...let them ride blindfolded. Who cares? I don't believe anyone wants them dead. Quieter, yes. Dead, no. It's funny, but when I hear of a motorcycle accident on the beltway, there's an extra twinge that doesn't happen when I hear of a car accident. I'm sure Marines feel it for Marines, soldiers for soldiers and so on. I believe you're wrong. People who intentionally make their bikes louder do it to be a pain in the ass. Normal people notice this and respond accordingly. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:49:03 -0500, HK wrote: I don't know this for a fact, so it's pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that the majority of people that support helmet laws .... don't ride motorcycles. Eisboch It should be mandatory. Period. So you believe that it is a proper role of government to protect people from themselves? What do you do when they take away your unsafe, low transom boat? (for your own good, of course) Ever the a**, eh, Dwayne? |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:30:30 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
I find it hard to believe that insurance companies, who actually know the cost, would promote anything that would cost them more money. If seat belts and helmets were not safer, insurance companies would aggressively fight against the laws. The push for mandatory seat belt laws didn't come from insurance companies, it came from the auto industry. In 1984, the Secretary of Transportation ruled that air bags would not be required if more than 2/3 of the population resided in states with mandatory seat belt laws. All of a sudden, Detroit began lobbying for mandatory seat belt laws. It's not about safety, it's about money. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:54:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: married for 38 years or something .... Um...didn't you say that Mrs. E read rec.boats once in a while? :) Loose lips sink ships I guess. I am just in an ornery mood. Somehow I caught a humdinger of a cold and feel really lousy. I can't remember the last time I was sick and it's something I don't tolerate very well. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:26:28 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
And then we got air bags anyway which caused a zillion injuries and still do. Not to mention severe allergic reactions as a result of the powder used as a lubricant to aid inflation. And I have yet to have an SAE qualified engineer tell me why, if seat belts are so effective in reducing injuries, we need air bags as additional restraints. Remember the '50s cars? Metal dashboards, steering columns like spears, metal door handles that would slice you like a knife, etc. etc. I'll take the air bags and seat belts. Looking back, those old cars were scary. Seat belts are not without problems. I've heard of broken collarbones and even deaths caused by shock to the heart. Still, I'll wear them. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:54:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: married for 38 years or something .... Um...didn't you say that Mrs. E read rec.boats once in a while? :) Loose lips sink ships I guess. I am just in an ornery mood. Somehow I caught a humdinger of a cold and feel really lousy. I can't remember the last time I was sick and it's something I don't tolerate very well. Eisboch Time to make your blood inhabitable to germs. Jack Daniels. |
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