I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).

However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.

I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...=1&cs et=true

You don't get much health care for 200 dollars per year. Laundering it
through the government or paying for it with oil revenue instead of
distributing the revenue to the people doesn't mean you aren't spending
it. What is the per capita spending on health care?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:03:43 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Chuck Gould wrote:
Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).

However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.

I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...=1&cs et=true


Norway is far more advanced in most ways than the United States.

May be... but I don't think I would be bothering to post here if I
lived there. Regular gas is $8.98/gal there. I don't know what I would
do as a hobby.... but, I'm pretty sure boating would be out of reach.

I'd probably own a bigger boat in Venezuela..... $.12/gal.


That's if Hugo lets you "own" a boat.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
I was at a marina today, talking to a friend heading out for some
feeeshing, and he filled up at $3.65 a gallon. The pump operator said
he had a call from his supplier, who told him the wholesale price was
probably going to go up another 10-15 cents by Monday.


My goodness. We are just about up to what we paid in Europe 30 years
ago.

Eisboch



If you are an average income American, the pump prices are killing your
family's budget.

Remove the taxes on gasoline, that will bring the price back down to
about $2.00 per gallon.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
I was at a marina today, talking to a friend heading out for some
feeeshing, and he filled up at $3.65 a gallon. The pump operator
said he had a call from his supplier, who told him the wholesale
price was probably going to go up another 10-15 cents by Monday.

My goodness. We are just about up to what we paid in Europe 30
years ago.

Eisboch

If you are an average income American, the pump prices are killing
your family's budget.

I see. So, you advocate lower fuel prices in the USA .....?

Why?

Eisboch



The absence of general economic democracy in this country no longer is
hidden by a rising standard of living for workers, a reduction in the
gap between rich and poor, and the ameliorative effects of social
welfare programs. We have seen the deranged become normal.

Don't you have guests at your hose for Thanksgiving?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Nov 21, 4:58�pm, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...



Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).

However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.

I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ay_hundley_bdn...

You don't get much health care for 200 dollars per year. �Laundering it
through the government or paying for it with oil revenue instead of
distributing the revenue to the people doesn't mean you aren't spending
it. �What is the per capita spending on health care?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The rest of the health care is paid for with tax dollars. As Bill P
posted above, the Norwegians make enough money to pay the higher taxes
and still have just a whisker more per-capita "spending money" than
the average US resident.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Nov 21, 4:34�pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:59:18 -0600, Vic Smith





wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:07:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
om...
I was at a marina today, talking to a friend heading out for some
feeeshing, and he filled up at $3.65 a gallon. The pump operator said he
had a call from his supplier, who told him the wholesale price was
probably going to go up another 10-15 cents by Monday.

My goodness. �We are just about up to what we paid in Europe 30 years ago.

Eisboch

If you are an average income American, the pump prices are killing your
family's budget.

I worked PT at UPS washing/fueling trucks while I attended college.
In 1976 I was making 10 bucks an hour. �The package loaders/unloaders
were making about 11 bucks, but had a tougher job aside from weather.
Gas - and everything else - was a lot cheaper in 1976.
I was paying a mortgage, had 3 kids and my wife was a housewife, home
with the kids.
With about 165 bucks UPS takehome pay and another 100 from the GI
Bill, we were doing fine.
Went on the UPS website today.
Package guys are now making 8.50 - 9.00 an hour.
Which is a couple bucks less than in 1976.
Progress.

--Vic

And they're probably illegal immigrants. Why should anyone pay more when
the supply is everywhere? Some day someone will figure that out.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And that's exactly why their will never be any serious effort made to
curtail illegal immigration into the US. Even the companies that don't
hire the illegal immigrants benefit from the fact that they lower the
wage bar for all jobs. Skilled construction workers are reduced to $15-
$20 an hour these days, and many of these people have skills capable
of producing high economic value and have taken many years to refine
and perfect them. You can't buy even a run down shack and drive a
decent used car for $30k a year, but who's going to pay more when some
guy who just swam across the border will work for that price and who
may have equally well-developed skills?

About the only time they really round up the illegals hereabouts is if
the employer himself decides to turn them in. The normal practice is
to schedule the raid for a couple of hours before the paychecks are
supposed to passed out on Friday afternoon...... that brings the
actual cost of labor down to $ZERO. Pretty tough to compete with
that. :-(

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:41:14 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 21, 4:58?pm, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...



Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).

However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.

I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ay_hundley_bdn...

You don't get much health care for 200 dollars per year. ?Laundering it
through the government or paying for it with oil revenue instead of
distributing the revenue to the people doesn't mean you aren't spending
it. ?What is the per capita spending on health care?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The rest of the health care is paid for with tax dollars. As Bill P
posted above, the Norwegians make enough money to pay the higher taxes
and still have just a whisker more per-capita "spending money" than
the average US resident.

Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just so
their people could live like kings and queens.
--
John H

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Nov 21, 5:55�pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:41:14 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 21, 4:58?pm, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...

Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel..
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).

However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.

I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway..
(Probably won't, though).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ay_hundley_bdn....

You don't get much health care for 200 dollars per year. ?Laundering it
through the government or paying for it with oil revenue instead of
distributing the revenue to the people doesn't mean you aren't spending
it. ?What is the per capita spending on health care?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The rest of the health care is paid for with tax dollars. As Bill P
posted above, the Norwegians make enough money to pay the higher taxes
and still have just a whisker more per-capita "spending money" than
the average US resident.

Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just so
their people could live like kings and queens.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, we drilled for oil in our own backyard decades ago. Found a lot
of it, too. That cheap and abundant oil fostered some incredible
economic prosperity in this country for many decades. It's no longer
cheap or abundant. There is more oil that could be drilled, but we
have picked all the low-hanging fruit.

At some point we need to evaluate the trade-offs between oil and other
valid considerations. For instance, we know there is enough oil in the
Artic National Wildlife Refuge to supply all of this nation's oil
requirements for about 90 days (if we were getting oil from no other
source at the same time). There is a legitimate question to consider;
is the limited amount of oil to be recovered worth despoiling the
irreplaceable ANWR? People hold differing opinions.

Where should we drill? How about Yellowstone National Park?
Maybe we should line the bottom of the Grand Canyon with derricks?
How about the vacant lot across the street from your house, or your
neighborhood playground.....good spots for oil rigs?

The secret to future prosperity in the US does not (IMO) rest in
finding additional fuel to get another decade or two out of what can
only be a transitional technology (petro-fueled internal combution
engines). We should be working non-stop to be the *first*
technologically adept society to leave the IC engine behind for
good.That's what we did when we gave up on the steam engine 75-80
years ago, and look how we flourished for a while. I wonder if, back
then, lots of people were campaigning to mine more coal to provide a
constant supply of cheap fuel for steam engines?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:21:21 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I'd probably own a bigger boat in Venezuela..... $.12/gal.

Fuel is not a trivial cost with a bigger boat but it is a relatively
low percentage of overall expenses.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army was a
dumb deal for a career.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 21, 4:58�pm, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...



Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).
However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.
I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ay_hundley_bdn...
You don't get much health care for 200 dollars per year. �Laundering it
through the government or paying for it with oil revenue instead of
distributing the revenue to the people doesn't mean you aren't spending
it. �What is the per capita spending on health care?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The rest of the health care is paid for with tax dollars. As Bill P
posted above, the Norwegians make enough money to pay the higher taxes
and still have just a whisker more per-capita "spending money" than
the average US resident.


The Norwegians also enjoy almost free college education for their kids,
and if they are injured on the job and can no longer do the job for
which they have been trained, the government will subsidize them long
enough to learn a new profession. And no, it is nothing like the crappy
bit of workers' comp we have here.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:
I see. So, you advocate lower fuel prices in the USA .....?

Why?



The absence of general economic democracy in this country no longer is
hidden by a rising standard of living for workers, a reduction in the gap
between rich and poor, and the ameliorative effects of social welfare
programs. We have seen the deranged become normal.

Gimmee some time to digest that paragraph.

Eisboch



If you figure that one out, can you provide an explanation in English?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before hitting
our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be far
better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army was a
dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:
I see. So, you advocate lower fuel prices in the USA .....?

Why?



The absence of general economic democracy in this country no longer
is hidden by a rising standard of living for workers, a reduction in
the gap between rich and poor, and the ameliorative effects of social
welfare programs. We have seen the deranged become normal.

Gimmee some time to digest that paragraph.

Eisboch



If you figure that one out, can you provide an explanation in English?




Sorry, sometimes I forget I have to write at a third grade level here.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard,
before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before hitting
our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be far
better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society in
this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army was
a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you into a
man.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard,
before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before hitting
our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be far
better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society in
this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out
what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army
was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you into a
man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the military.
While the military would not be my choice of a career, I would never
call it a dumb deal for someone else.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

JimH wrote:

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.
Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out
what
you mean, Harry.

Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army was a
dumb deal for a career.
Is the Marines a better choice?


You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you into a
man.

Doubtful.

JimH,
The military would not be my choice for a career, and it is not right
for everyone, but I have never put anyone down who made that choice. I
especially have not said it was a "dumb deal for a career". I have
always said I am VERY glad there are people who like to be in the
military and police, they are two very important jobs for all of
society. I was highlighting that Harry has always thought both career
choices and the institutions' in general to corrupt and full of less
than stellar individuals. That has never been my position.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard,
before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before hitting
our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be
far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society
in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out
what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army
was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you into
a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the military.
While the military would not be my choice of a career, I would never
call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you into
a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard,
before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before hitting
our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be far
better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society in
this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure out
what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army was
a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you into a
man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the military.
While the military would not be my choice of a career, I would never call
it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you into a
man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.


Didn't seem to work for Bertie! I guess there are always exceptions to the
rule.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back yard,
before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before
hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be
far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society
in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure
out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army
was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you
into a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the military.
While the military would not be my choice of a career, I would never
call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you into
a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

Harry,
Let's get together for a beer one day.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back
yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before
hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be
far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a
conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our society
in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure
out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the Army
was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you
into a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the
military. While the military would not be my choice of a career, I
would never call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you
into a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

Harry,
Let's get together for a beer one day.

Only if you bring a legitimate photo ID that belongs to you.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back
yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before
hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd be
far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a
conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our
society in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure
out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the
Army was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you
into a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the
military. While the military would not be my choice of a career, I
would never call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you
into a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

Harry,
Let's get together for a beer one day.

Only if you bring a legitimate photo ID that belongs to you.

Of course, I always show people my ID when I meet them for a beer.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back
yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before
hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd
be far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world
panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a
conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied
by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and things
are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to reject
the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our
society in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to figure
out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the
Army was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you
into a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the
military. While the military would not be my choice of a career, I
would never call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you
into a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

Harry,
Let's get together for a beer one day.

Only if you bring a legitimate photo ID that belongs to you.

Of course, I always show people my ID when I meet them for a beer.



In fact, you'd have to send me a scan of it beforehand. I'd want to
check you out on the national crime database.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back
yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before
hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd
be far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world
panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a
conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life, accompanied
by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and
things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to
reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our
society in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to
figure out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the
Army was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like you
into a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the
military. While the military would not be my choice of a career, I
would never call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning you
into a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

Harry,
Let's get together for a beer one day.

Only if you bring a legitimate photo ID that belongs to you.

Of course, I always show people my ID when I meet them for a beer.



In fact, you'd have to send me a scan of it beforehand. I'd want to
check you out on the national crime database.

It sounds like you are being very cowardly.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:13 -0500, HK
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:57:58 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

...and get smart enough to drill for the oil in our back
yard, before
China
does.
Ah, no. Better to drain the foreign reserves dry before
hitting our own.
We know what we've got here and when the crunch comes it'd
be far better to
have our own to fall back on while the rest of the world
panics.
OK, as long as we quit making bull**** posts like this:

"Norway has what the sick world needs, a metanoia, a
conversion, a
reappraisal of our whole attitude towards life,
accompanied by a
fundamental change in the climate in which people and
things are
appraised. We need to radically change our culture to
reject the
dehumanization of man so implicit in what "drives" our
society in this
country today."

As if you had even the slightest idea what I meant.

Not much in the way of intellectual prowess is needed to
figure out what
you mean, Harry.


Oh, I dunno. I was intellectual enough to figure out that the
Army was a dumb deal for a career.

Is the Marines a better choice?



You never know. The Marines might have turned an a**hole like
you into a man.

Harry,
You seem to enjoy throwing barbs at everyone, especially the
military. While the military would not be my choice of a career,
I would never call it a dumb deal for someone else.


As I stated, the Marines might have done you some good, turning
you into a man, instead of the cowardly pussy you are.

Harry,
Let's get together for a beer one day.

Only if you bring a legitimate photo ID that belongs to you.

Of course, I always show people my ID when I meet them for a beer.



In fact, you'd have to send me a scan of it beforehand. I'd want to
check you out on the national crime database.

It sounds like you are being very cowardly.



No, I just think it important the people one meets are who they claim to
be. Since you have claimed so many identities here, it would be prudent
to check you out first.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 21, 10:38?am, "BillP" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...





Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).

However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.

I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).

In real purchasing power per capita (PPP) Norway is $42,364 as compared to
the US at $41,399 (2005)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Very good research!

So my supposition that the generally higher taxes collected from
generally higher incomes in Norway still leave a decent amount of net
spendable income in place appears to be well founded.

Meanwhile, the Norwegians enjoy $200 per year health care expenses,
public retirement villages in warm weather climates, and other social
advantages we choose not to fund.

To repeat: I'm happy to live in the US, but I'd rather send my fuel
money to Norway than to the Arabs, the Chinese, or the Russians.


But, they only have about 4.4 million people (low population density), not a
lot of illegal immigrants, and lots of natural resources. About what we had
50 years ago.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 21, 10:38?am, "BillP" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...





Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).
However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.
I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).
In real purchasing power per capita (PPP) Norway is $42,364 as compared to
the US at $41,399 (2005)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Very good research!

So my supposition that the generally higher taxes collected from
generally higher incomes in Norway still leave a decent amount of net
spendable income in place appears to be well founded.

Meanwhile, the Norwegians enjoy $200 per year health care expenses,
public retirement villages in warm weather climates, and other social
advantages we choose not to fund.

To repeat: I'm happy to live in the US, but I'd rather send my fuel
money to Norway than to the Arabs, the Chinese, or the Russians.


But, they only have about 4.4 million people (low population density), not a
lot of illegal immigrants, and lots of natural resources. About what we had
50 years ago.



My Norwegian friends, all of whom are working men with reasonable but
not tremendous incomes, and their families live very well. If it weren't
for the climate and the language barrier (Norwegian is a difficult
language to learn, let alone pronounce), it would be on the list of my
"bug out" countries.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 21, 10:38?am, "BillP" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...





Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).
However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.
I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).
In real purchasing power per capita (PPP) Norway is $42,364 as compared
to
the US at $41,399 (2005)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Very good research!

So my supposition that the generally higher taxes collected from
generally higher incomes in Norway still leave a decent amount of net
spendable income in place appears to be well founded.

Meanwhile, the Norwegians enjoy $200 per year health care expenses,
public retirement villages in warm weather climates, and other social
advantages we choose not to fund.

To repeat: I'm happy to live in the US, but I'd rather send my fuel
money to Norway than to the Arabs, the Chinese, or the Russians.


But, they only have about 4.4 million people (low population density),
not a lot of illegal immigrants, and lots of natural resources. About
what we had 50 years ago.

My Norwegian friends, all of whom are working men with reasonable but not
tremendous incomes, and their families live very well. If it weren't for
the climate and the language barrier (Norwegian is a difficult language to
learn, let alone pronounce), it would be on the list of my "bug out"
countries.

What does that have to do about my statement?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"HK" wrote in message
...



My Norwegian friends, all of whom are working men with reasonable but not
tremendous incomes, and their families live very well. If it weren't for
the climate and the language barrier (Norwegian is a difficult language to
learn, let alone pronounce), it would be on the list of my "bug out"
countries.


Food for thought. If anyone attacked the US, we'd receive the fallout a
couple days later.
My wife's father came over from Norway during WW2... I wonder if that would
help us slip in..

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 21, 10:38?am, "BillP" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...





Even those of us who usually burn B20 are still using 80% dino-diesel.
Most of the crude oil the refiners use to create gasoline and diesel
comes from places that are explicitly unfriendly to the US, (and
according to the following article the Bush Administration is
concerned that some of those sources are bankrolling huge amounts of
capital for an eventual destabilizing financial assualt on the US
economy. It's not too late for Russia or China to win the final battle
in the Cold War).
However, also acording to the following article there is a source for
crude oil that takes a very enlightened approach to using its oil
wealth. The citizens of this country earn a per capita income (not
"family income", but per capita) of $65,509 per year, spend a maximum
of $200 per yar for health care, are in better physical shape and
enjoy a longer life expectancy than most Americans.
I hope that the next time I buy fuel, the crude oil comes from Norway.
(Probably won't, though).
In real purchasing power per capita (PPP) Norway is $42,364 as compared
to
the US at $41,399 (2005)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Very good research!

So my supposition that the generally higher taxes collected from
generally higher incomes in Norway still leave a decent amount of net
spendable income in place appears to be well founded.

Meanwhile, the Norwegians enjoy $200 per year health care expenses,
public retirement villages in warm weather climates, and other social
advantages we choose not to fund.

To repeat: I'm happy to live in the US, but I'd rather send my fuel
money to Norway than to the Arabs, the Chinese, or the Russians.


But, they only have about 4.4 million people (low population density),
not a lot of illegal immigrants, and lots of natural resources. About
what we had 50 years ago.

My Norwegian friends, all of whom are working men with reasonable but not
tremendous incomes, and their families live very well. If it weren't for
the climate and the language barrier (Norwegian is a difficult language to
learn, let alone pronounce), it would be on the list of my "bug out"
countries.

You won't want to be there after the oil runs out (it's already peaked).

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just so
their people could live like kings and queens.

It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good idea,
it's not. Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil runs
out. By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and continue
to march forward.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Nov 23, 7:20�am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just so
their people could live like kings and queens.

It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good idea,
it's not. �Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. �Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil runs
out. �By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and continue
to march forward.

There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 7:20?am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just
so
their people could live like kings and queens.

It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good idea,
it's not. ?Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. ?Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil runs
out. ?By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and
continue
to march forward.

There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

Japanese have been trying it for years.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 7:20?am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just
so
their people could live like kings and queens.
It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good idea,
it's not. ?Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. ?Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil runs
out. ?By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and
continue
to march forward.

There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

Japanese have been trying it for years.




You think our multinational corporations and hedge fund managers need
help in destroying this country?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

CalifBill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 7:20?am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard.
Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just
so
their people could live like kings and queens.
It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good
idea,
it's not. ?Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. ?Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil
runs
out. ?By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and
continue
to march forward.
There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

Japanese have been trying it for years.

You think our multinational corporations and hedge fund managers need help
in destroying this country?

Yup, the unions are leading the way.



Playing zell miller again, eh? Whatever ever happened to that lunatic,
anyway? Was he committed somewhere?

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 7:20?am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard.
Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just
so
their people could live like kings and queens.
It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good
idea,
it's not. ?Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. ?Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil
runs
out. ?By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and
continue
to march forward.

There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

Japanese have been trying it for years.


You think our multinational corporations and hedge fund managers need help
in destroying this country?

Yup, the unions are leading the way.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 7:20?am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard.
Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment
just so
their people could live like kings and queens.
It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good
idea,
it's not. ?Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's
FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. ?Sure, you
boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil
runs
out. ?By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and
continue
to march forward.
There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

Japanese have been trying it for years.

You think our multinational corporations and hedge fund managers need
help in destroying this country?

Yup, the unions are leading the way.

Playing zell miller again, eh? Whatever ever happened to that lunatic,
anyway? Was he committed somewhere?

You are the lunatic these days.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

On Nov 23, 10:43Â*am, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 23, 7:20�am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard. Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment just so
their people could live like kings and queens.

It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good idea,
it's not. �Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. �Sure, you boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil runs
out. �By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and continue
to march forward.

There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

I remember the old guys (when I was little I was always the kid
hanging out with the old folks, listening to the stories) talking
about some famous Chineese leader that stated that they would
eventually take down the US without firing a shot. Someone said the
Nipponeese have been trying that for years, but they only wanted our
economy and were not influencial (economically) enough to do it,
although they have taken a good chunk. But you put Russia, China,
Chunks of South America, and most of the middle east together, have
control of more than enough resources (oil, money, manufactured
products, etc.) they could shut us down in 30 days.


Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

I hope my next load of fuel comes from Norway
 

CalifBill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
CalifBill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 7:20?am, "Bill Kearney" wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:
Because they had enough sense to drill for oil in their back yard.
Don't
forget that. They've purposely destroyed their entire environment
just so
their people could live like kings and queens.
It's phenomenally short-sighted to think drilling locally is a good
idea,
it's not. ?Given the rapidly declining oil reserves world-wide it's
FAR
BETTER to buy oil from overseas NOW and bleed them dry. ?Sure, you
boost
their local economies, but that'll crash and burn HARD once their oil
runs
out. ?By then we'll have engineered our own superior solutions and
continue
to march forward.
There is mounting concern that many of the countries who sell us oil
but hate our guts (and there's a long list) may be stockpiling cash
for a financial assault on the American economy.

Think of the damage that even a 100 billion dollars, used without
regard to whether it would ever be recovered, could do to the US
securities market.....the chain reaction throughout the economy could
be catastrophic. The people who hate our guts know that trying to
bring America down by defeating the military is almost
impossible....but destroying the country by first destroying the
economy is a little more doable.

Japanese have been trying it for years.
You think our multinational corporations and hedge fund managers need
help in destroying this country?
Yup, the unions are leading the way.
Playing zell miller again, eh? Whatever ever happened to that lunatic,
anyway? Was he committed somewhere?

You are the lunatic these days.



It's best to ignore him. I know his moronic posts make that hard to do
but how else will he go away and take his puppy Donnie with him?

=dk