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DownTime November 19th 07 02:38 PM

Support the troops
 
BAR wrote:
No, you cannot count on my vote. The USA has interests around the world
and those interests need to be supported.


OK, you are fully entitled your vote for the candidate of your choice.

Can you provide me a 'for example' of these interests? Maybe explain to
me how an American life be justified to protect it? Can you also state
this in terms of the financial costs vs. benefits?

I truly am interested to understand the other side and maybe I might
change my opinion some.


Eisboch November 19th 07 02:43 PM

Support the troops
 

"DownTime" wrote in message
. ..
BAR wrote:
No, you cannot count on my vote. The USA has interests around the world
and those interests need to be supported.


OK, you are fully entitled your vote for the candidate of your choice.

Can you provide me a 'for example' of these interests? Maybe explain to me
how an American life be justified to protect it? Can you also state this
in terms of the financial costs vs. benefits?

I truly am interested to understand the other side and maybe I might
change my opinion some.


We have treaties and agreements with many countries obligating us to do so.

(bag of worms here, I know, but still ....)

Eisboch

"In a study of 200,000 ostriches over a period of 80 years, no one reported
a single case where an ostrich buried its head in the sand (or attempted to
do so)."



DownTime November 19th 07 02:54 PM

Support the troops
 
Eisboch wrote:

We have treaties and agreements with many countries obligating us to do so.

(bag of worms here, I know, but still ....)

Eisboch

"In a study of 200,000 ostriches over a period of 80 years, no one reported
a single case where an ostrich buried its head in the sand (or attempted to
do so)."


Uh, I think maybe you are actually helping my case. Thank you! ;)

Just because some (fill in your own adjective!) politician signed the
treaty or agreement in the first place, does that make it the right
thing to do for the American people? Are the lives of our troops a
justifiable cost? I do not think so.

[email protected] November 19th 07 03:58 PM

Support the troops
 
On Nov 18, 6:32 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in . net...





JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
. ..
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???


If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .


You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.


Have a super day!


I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.


Does your son read rec.boats while he is in training?


As Tom knows, I pass along the support shown to our troops here to my son
and the other Marines I personally know.

I have yet to read any support to my son in the "Our Marine" thread.

So what is your point?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What is YOUR point? My tax dollars are supporting him.

[email protected] November 19th 07 04:02 PM

Support the troops
 
On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be
wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???


If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .


You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.


Have a super day!


So what is your point?
My point is that the "Support the Troops" concept is one where the troops
can actually read a personalized card of support. It really is a great
idea, one I would think you would readily endorse.


Nice snip Jim/Reggie. Why did you snip the following from my post:


"As Tom knows, I pass along the support shown to our troops here to my son
and the other Marines I personally know.


I have yet to read any support from you or John to my son in the "Our
Marine" thread."


'nuff said.


I have never known anyone who needs more stroking than you. I hope your
son got his spine from his mom's side of the family, or he will be in a
world of hurt in the Marines.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Apparently he does need as much stroking as his dad. Jim has stated
that he lets his son read the responses.....

James R. Gallows III November 19th 07 04:20 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change

So many jokes, so little time...

Good morning, James.


It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.


A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 04:34 PM

Support the troops
 
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.

A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.


HK November 19th 07 04:46 PM

Support the troops
 
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in
message ...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a
moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our
Troops. We've got tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season.
Wouldn't it be wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received
a bunch of these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you
can pick out a thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a
soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some
member of the armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine"
supporting my son and his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.

Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked.
I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.
A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you
had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.



You're already retired the A**hole Trophy, Reggie. Why don't you and
your altered egos move onto a usenet group where you'll be appreciated:

ALT-REC.NamelessBoatlessA**holesIDJerkoffs

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 04:47 PM

Support the troops
 
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in
message ...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a
moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our
Troops. We've got tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season.
Wouldn't it be wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course)
received a bunch of these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you
can pick out a thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a
soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to
some member of the armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine"
supporting my son and his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.

Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked.
I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.
A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you
had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.

Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.



You're already retired the A**hole Trophy, Reggie. Why don't you and
your altered egos move onto a usenet group where you'll be appreciated:

ALT-REC.NamelessBoatlessA**holesIDJerkoffs


What has James ever done to you?


Short Wave Sportfishing November 19th 07 05:01 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:54:07 -0500, DownTime
wrote:

Just because some (fill in your own adjective!) politician signed the
treaty or agreement in the first place, does that make it the right
thing to do for the American people?


If the elected representatives believe it, then the answer is yes.
That's why they are elected - to represent the wishes of their
constituency.

Are the lives of our troops a justifiable cost? I do not think so.


Lives are expendable - for any variety of reasons. The peculiar
"enlightened" mindset that lives of troops have to be justifiable is
just plain silly.

Compare the daily toll taken by drunk drivers nationally on a per year
basis - close to 17,000 of our fellow citizens die every year due to
one or more operators of motor vehicles being drunk. That's 48 people
per day dead because of aberrant behavior.

Is that a justifiable cost just to keep liquor, beer and wine
companies in business?

It's all relative. Last year, 1,200 workers died in construction
accidents. 60% of those deaths were workers aged 20 to 24 years old.
Is that a justifiable cost for building things? It must be becasue
every construction contract has a built in identifier for number of
deaths for insurance company tables for potential liability.

To bring this around to war, would the troop deaths be justifiable if,
say, we decided to go to Dafur, kiss ass and take names to bring some
stability to an impoverished nation? Prevent starvation and disease?
Establish a stable government by the people, for the people?

Of course it would be.


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