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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:59:11 -0500, DownTime wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:51 -0500, DownTime wrote: John H. wrote: Can you speak Chinese? No, and I have no plans to learn it either. Then you'd better hope the USA maintains an interest in world affairs. Glad you brought that up, what good to the USA has come about by off-shoring jobs and manufacturing? The lead-based paint in children's toys and poisoned foodstuffs is enough for me to check labels and choose to only buy American from now on. The government didn't offshore, the companies looking for profits did that. There is a big 'anti-corporate' push coming from a segment of our society. Why should corporations put up with it? I'm sure, if a certain segment runs our government, we'll soon see the CEO's following their jobs and manufacturing. Why be considered the 'bad guy' by those running the government? I am not saying to ignore them, or anyone for that matter. I am just questioning the so-called need to give away billions of dollars annually in the name of aid to foreign countries and entities for which there is practically zero return to the USA. The off-shoring of jobs started as a way to save corporations money, the truth of the matter is it rarely if ever pans out to be so. The ROI of these projects is not what you might expect. Have you had a look at what the companies & top tier folks who supply Asian Indian IT talent are making? The numbers are mind boggling. The workers who come over are generally well-educated, but making a fraction of the pay an American counterpart. The corporations these folks work for make HUGE profits. The end result is the companies hiring these folks as sub-contractors in the name of saving money on the per-person cost, are simply fooling themselves. They end up paying close to the same amount at the end of the project for what they could have hired locally. But they now have the feel good sensation of off-shoring to save money, but the project bottom line proves this is a myth. General Electric started the big push back in the early 90s. The word then was GE wanted to sell more products to the growing country of India. Steam turbines, locomotives, large scale products. The Govt of India wanted something in trade to help their economy, about the only reasonable product or service useful in any way to GE was 'IT services". It started out decent enough, at least initially the resources coming over were able to communicate effectively and get the jobs done. Eventually greed took over on the part of their homeland firms and we had documented cases where the resume and person interviewed over the phone turned out to not be the person who eventually showed up to do the work. Sounds like you've got it all figured out. What kind of boat do you have? Where do you boat? |
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DownTime wrote:
BAR wrote: No, you cannot count on my vote. The USA has interests around the world and those interests need to be supported. OK, you are fully entitled your vote for the candidate of your choice. Can you provide me a 'for example' of these interests? Maybe explain to me how an American life be justified to protect it? Can you also state this in terms of the financial costs vs. benefits? The reduce our dependence upon foreign oil crowd needs to understand that we can do just that reduce our dependence upon foreign oil if we start drilling in ANWR, Calif. coast, Florida coast. And, build new refineries. Until we are ready to do this we will depend upon foreign oil from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and the middle east and these are some of our foreign interests I truly am interested to understand the other side and maybe I might change my opinion some. I am not looking to change your opinion just your understanding that we cannot live in a vacuum. |
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Eisboch wrote: We have treaties and agreements with many countries obligating us to do so. (bag of worms here, I know, but still ....) Eisboch "In a study of 200,000 ostriches over a period of 80 years, no one reported a single case where an ostrich buried its head in the sand (or attempted to do so)." Uh, I think maybe you are actually helping my case. Thank you! ;) Just because some (fill in your own adjective!) politician signed the treaty or agreement in the first place, does that make it the right thing to do for the American people? Are the lives of our troops a justifiable cost? I do not think so. It comes down to honoring your commitments. And being trusted to honor your commitments. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. It comes down to honoring your commitments. And being trusted to honor your commitments. Bingo. You've got it. Eisboch |
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On Nov 18, 3:59�pm, John H. wrote:
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. �We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. �Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 18, 3:59�pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. �We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. �Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. |
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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. |
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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! I gift basket is a much better gift, and I definitely will have to send one, but I will continue to fill out the card when I log on. Somehow it seems better than JimH tell his kid and friends the number of people in rec.boats who wished them godspeed. |
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Reginald Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! A gift basket is a much better gift, and I definitely will have to send one, but I will continue to fill out the card when I log on. Somehow it seems better than JimH tell his kid and friends the number of people in rec.boats who wished them godspeed. |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:36:43 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. ~~ heh ~~ |
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. You're sure about that, are you? |
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BAR wrote:
I am not looking to change your opinion just your understanding that we cannot live in a vacuum. Agreed. The point I was trying to make, maybe not quite clearly, is we can survive and thrive, but we do not need to continually throw away billions of dollars every year on programs/countries/whatevers that provide zero return. |
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DownTime wrote:
BAR wrote: I am not looking to change your opinion just your understanding that we cannot live in a vacuum. Agreed. The point I was trying to make, maybe not quite clearly, is we can survive and thrive, but we do not need to continually throw away billions of dollars every year on programs/countries/whatevers that provide zero return. The return is not always tangible. Nor is there a requirement for an immediate return. Helping to build up the economies of third world nations will yield benefits to future generations in those third world nations and here in the USA. We have to stop thinking about ourselves and think about the future, 25, 50 and 100 years out. |
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On Nov 20, 7:44 am, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyoucan pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. You're sure about that, are you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh noooooo .. I think I see a Lobsta' boat coming down river. Don't do it Harry, you did not serve in the armed services, no matter how you parse it. |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. |
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wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:44 am, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyoucan pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. You're sure about that, are you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh noooooo .. I think I see a Lobsta' boat coming down river. Don't do it Harry, you did not serve in the armed services, no matter how you parse it. Be careful Harry might accuse us of Lobsta' Boating him. |
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BAR wrote:
So has everyone sent a least a card? I would think this is something even Harry could get behind. |
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On Nov 20, 9:14 am, BAR wrote:
wrote: On Nov 20, 7:44 am, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyoucanpick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. You're sure about that, are you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh noooooo .. I think I see a Lobsta' boat coming down river. Don't do it Harry, you did not serve in the armed services, no matter how you parse it. Be careful Harry might accuse us of Lobsta' Boating him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - His accusation could be justified;) |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:39:10 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! I gift basket is a much better gift, and I definitely will have to send one, but I will continue to fill out the card when I log on. Somehow it seems better than JimH tell his kid and friends the number of people in rec.boats who wished them godspeed. Making that page a homepage was a great idea. Sending the cards becomes habit forming. |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:44:56 -0500, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:29:35 -0500, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:22:36 -0500, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 18, 3:59?pm, John H. wrote: Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. ?We've got tons to be thankful for during the holiday season. ?Wouldn't it be wonderful of each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of these??? If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a thank you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier currently serving in Iraq . You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the armed services. Have a super day! Some holiday mailing tips from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6435603/ And this item: http://www.treatsfortroops.com/ Sending a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan a nice care package probably has more meaning than sending a greeting card. Having been there and done that, Harry, I can honestly say that receiving *anything* is very enjoyable! But yes, a little pogey bait is always appreciated! The best way to catch pogies is with a cast net. Google is your friend, since you weren't there. You're sure about that, are you? Anyone who thinks pogey bait has something to do with fish has exhibited his knowledge of the subject. |
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