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HK November 19th 07 11:18 AM

Support the troops
 
Tim wrote:
On Nov 18, 10:00 pm, HK wrote:
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:54:31 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
snippity-snip
Johnson's idiotic war in Vietnam didn't make a lot of sense to me
either, but I went anway. Hell, I volunteered.
And know what? If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't change a
thing.
Agreed!
I'd still go on that last mission even though I got my **** scattered.
Hell, how many chances does a dozen guys get to kick a Battalions ass.
Em well, hold out against them anyway. :o)
Mark E. Williams
PS...I would move back about ten feet to the other side of the stone
wall though. LOL

Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us


Harry, would that have included Germany 65 yr's ago, or so?

That is, if you were old enough?



World War II was a entirely different matter, and no, I wasn't.

HK November 19th 07 11:20 AM

Support the troops
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:00:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us.


Maybe my memory is going, but didn't you once say you served in
Vietnam in some capacity?



Yup. But I didn't go there to kill people.

Short Wave Sportfishing November 19th 07 11:31 AM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:20:39 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:00:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us.


Maybe my memory is going, but didn't you once say you served in
Vietnam in some capacity?


Yup. But I didn't go there to kill people.


Ah.

You were there in the Peace Corps then?

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 12:17 PM

Support the troops
 
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year

Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change

BAR November 19th 07 12:17 PM

Support the troops
 
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Nov 18, 10:00 pm, HK wrote:
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:54:31 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
snippity-snip
Johnson's idiotic war in Vietnam didn't make a lot of sense to me
either, but I went anway. Hell, I volunteered.
And know what? If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't change a
thing.
Agreed! I'd still go on that last mission even though I got my ****
scattered.
Hell, how many chances does a dozen guys get to kick a Battalions ass.
Em well, hold out against them anyway. :o)
Mark E. Williams
PS...I would move back about ten feet to the other side of the stone
wall though. LOL
Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us


Harry, would that have included Germany 65 yr's ago, or so?

That is, if you were old enough?



World War II was a entirely different matter, and no, I wasn't.


It was the same type of war, just on a smaller scale. One country trying
to dominate the world and another country trying to stop them, fought in
a country that was a pawn of both.


James R. Gallows III November 19th 07 12:41 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.


smoked would be a nice change


So many jokes, so little time...

Short Wave Sportfishing November 19th 07 12:43 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:59:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:31:27 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:20:39 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:00:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us.

Maybe my memory is going, but didn't you once say you served in
Vietnam in some capacity?

Yup. But I didn't go there to kill people.


Ah.

You were there in the Peace Corps then?


Saving dolphins in Cam Ranh Bay.


Really?

James R. Gallows III November 19th 07 12:50 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change


So many jokes, so little time...


Good morning, James.


It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.

John H. November 19th 07 12:55 PM

Support the troops
 
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:31:31 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:18:37 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

I guess I missed your comments in the "My Marine" supporting my son and his
accomplishment.

I just talked to my SIL to give him some personal support. He's
leaving for Iraq early next month. Army infantry.
I don't know if this will apply to your son if he gets sent there,
but my SIL has been pretty sick the last 6 weeks or so with smallpox
and anthrax vaccinations. The anthrax is six vaccinations.
Basically, he has to keep his distance from other people, no kissing,
hugging, etc.
Since he's biologically active, and my daughter is still radioactive
from thyroid cancer treatment, they have their own little WMD deal
going in their apartment. They are probably more f**king dangerous
than Saddam ever was.
If your son is going to get vaccinations, give him a hug first.

--Vic


Having a SIL over there is probably about as bad as having a son over
there. You will feel much more responsible for helping the daughter with
anything that goes wrong, and worry as much as you would for a son.

Good luck to him. Hopefully his unit has a good support group for those
left behind. That can be a big help.

John H. November 19th 07 12:57 PM

Support the troops
 
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.


If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year


Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

John H. November 19th 07 12:59 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:31:27 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:20:39 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:00:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us.

Maybe my memory is going, but didn't you once say you served in
Vietnam in some capacity?


Yup. But I didn't go there to kill people.


Ah.

You were there in the Peace Corps then?


Saving dolphins in Cam Ranh Bay.

DownTime November 19th 07 01:22 PM

Support the troops
 
HK wrote:
There's nothing going on in Iraq that is worth one American life.


This I can agree with. The people there, who HATE each other based on
religious differences, have hated each other for far longer than the USA
has been a country. No amount of American lives will ever change that
fact. One was too many. No amount of aid, or as I call it 'free money'
will change it either.

John H. November 19th 07 01:36 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change


How big? Smoking takes about 45min per pound. I don't want to get up too
early to put the bird on.

[email protected] November 19th 07 01:44 PM

Support the troops
 
On Nov 19, 8:22 am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
There's nothing going on in Iraq that is worth one American life.


This I can agree with. The people there, who HATE each other based on
religious differences, have hated each other for far longer than the USA
has been a country. No amount of American lives will ever change that
fact. One was too many. No amount of aid, or as I call it 'free money'
will change it either.


Through education and mass communication, things can change. Maybe not
even in our lifetimes, but things can and will change. Look at the
south of our own country, desegregation in education is why we have
the tolerance we do now (although not perfect) and hate groups such as
the KKK are pretty much have no value or respect beyond being a
curiosity and the brunt of a few jokes.

Even in the 80's when I lived down there, you could see the effects.
Old fathers in the KKK and kids who went to school with blacks. How
does the father keep up the lies when his kid comes home and tells him
that his black friend Tommy is pretty cool? He is the smartest kid in
math class and his dad is a policeman.

Things can and will change...

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 01:48 PM

Support the troops
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change


How big? Smoking takes about 45min per pound. I don't want to get up too
early to put the bird on.


15 lbs would be nice

John H. November 19th 07 01:50 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.


smoked would be a nice change


So many jokes, so little time...


Good morning, James.

John H. November 19th 07 01:50 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:43:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:59:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:31:27 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:20:39 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:00:07 -0500, HK wrote:

Yeah, that's what I'd want to do...go to the other side of the world to
kill people I don't know who live in a country that neither attacked nor
threatened us.

Maybe my memory is going, but didn't you once say you served in
Vietnam in some capacity?

Yup. But I didn't go there to kill people.

Ah.

You were there in the Peace Corps then?


Saving dolphins in Cam Ranh Bay.


Really?


Wasn't that the mission of the Peace Corps over there?

DownTime November 19th 07 01:51 PM

Support the troops
 
wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:22 am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
There's nothing going on in Iraq that is worth one American life.

This I can agree with. The people there, who HATE each other based on
religious differences, have hated each other for far longer than the USA
has been a country. No amount of American lives will ever change that
fact. One was too many. No amount of aid, or as I call it 'free money'
will change it either.


Through education and mass communication, things can change. Maybe not
even in our lifetimes, but things can and will change. Look at the
south of our own country, desegregation in education is why we have
the tolerance we do now (although not perfect) and hate groups such as
the KKK are pretty much have no value or respect beyond being a
curiosity and the brunt of a few jokes.

Even in the 80's when I lived down there, you could see the effects.
Old fathers in the KKK and kids who went to school with blacks. How
does the father keep up the lies when his kid comes home and tells him
that his black friend Tommy is pretty cool? He is the smartest kid in
math class and his dad is a policeman.

Things can and will change...


OK, now this is two things I can agree with today. Someone stop me
before my wife goes for #3!!!

However the big difference as I interpret it, the first scenario we
discussed was not on our soil, the one you brought up is. Back to HK's
comment, I'd just re-phrase it as "nothing going on outside of our
borders is worth one American life". This in no way is meant to
denigrade or dis-repsect all those souls who have fought the battles up
to this point in time, and have given their lives and sacrificed
families; to them I still have my unending gratitude.

If I was president, the concept of being the big brother to the world
would end within the minute after I was sworn in. Can I count on your
vote?

BAR November 19th 07 02:20 PM

Support the troops
 
DownTime wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:22 am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
There's nothing going on in Iraq that is worth one American life.
This I can agree with. The people there, who HATE each other based on
religious differences, have hated each other for far longer than the USA
has been a country. No amount of American lives will ever change that
fact. One was too many. No amount of aid, or as I call it 'free money'
will change it either.


Through education and mass communication, things can change. Maybe not
even in our lifetimes, but things can and will change. Look at the
south of our own country, desegregation in education is why we have
the tolerance we do now (although not perfect) and hate groups such as
the KKK are pretty much have no value or respect beyond being a
curiosity and the brunt of a few jokes.

Even in the 80's when I lived down there, you could see the effects.
Old fathers in the KKK and kids who went to school with blacks. How
does the father keep up the lies when his kid comes home and tells him
that his black friend Tommy is pretty cool? He is the smartest kid in
math class and his dad is a policeman.

Things can and will change...


OK, now this is two things I can agree with today. Someone stop me
before my wife goes for #3!!!

However the big difference as I interpret it, the first scenario we
discussed was not on our soil, the one you brought up is. Back to HK's
comment, I'd just re-phrase it as "nothing going on outside of our
borders is worth one American life". This in no way is meant to
denigrade or dis-repsect all those souls who have fought the battles up
to this point in time, and have given their lives and sacrificed
families; to them I still have my unending gratitude.

If I was president, the concept of being the big brother to the world
would end within the minute after I was sworn in. Can I count on your vote?


No, you cannot count on my vote. The USA has interests around the world
and those interests need to be supported.

John H. November 19th 07 02:29 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change

So many jokes, so little time...


Good morning, James.


It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.


A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.

DownTime November 19th 07 02:38 PM

Support the troops
 
BAR wrote:
No, you cannot count on my vote. The USA has interests around the world
and those interests need to be supported.


OK, you are fully entitled your vote for the candidate of your choice.

Can you provide me a 'for example' of these interests? Maybe explain to
me how an American life be justified to protect it? Can you also state
this in terms of the financial costs vs. benefits?

I truly am interested to understand the other side and maybe I might
change my opinion some.


Eisboch November 19th 07 02:43 PM

Support the troops
 

"DownTime" wrote in message
. ..
BAR wrote:
No, you cannot count on my vote. The USA has interests around the world
and those interests need to be supported.


OK, you are fully entitled your vote for the candidate of your choice.

Can you provide me a 'for example' of these interests? Maybe explain to me
how an American life be justified to protect it? Can you also state this
in terms of the financial costs vs. benefits?

I truly am interested to understand the other side and maybe I might
change my opinion some.


We have treaties and agreements with many countries obligating us to do so.

(bag of worms here, I know, but still ....)

Eisboch

"In a study of 200,000 ostriches over a period of 80 years, no one reported
a single case where an ostrich buried its head in the sand (or attempted to
do so)."



DownTime November 19th 07 02:54 PM

Support the troops
 
Eisboch wrote:

We have treaties and agreements with many countries obligating us to do so.

(bag of worms here, I know, but still ....)

Eisboch

"In a study of 200,000 ostriches over a period of 80 years, no one reported
a single case where an ostrich buried its head in the sand (or attempted to
do so)."


Uh, I think maybe you are actually helping my case. Thank you! ;)

Just because some (fill in your own adjective!) politician signed the
treaty or agreement in the first place, does that make it the right
thing to do for the American people? Are the lives of our troops a
justifiable cost? I do not think so.

[email protected] November 19th 07 03:58 PM

Support the troops
 
On Nov 18, 6:32 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in . net...





JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
. ..
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???


If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .


You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.


Have a super day!


I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.


Does your son read rec.boats while he is in training?


As Tom knows, I pass along the support shown to our troops here to my son
and the other Marines I personally know.

I have yet to read any support to my son in the "Our Marine" thread.

So what is your point?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What is YOUR point? My tax dollars are supporting him.

[email protected] November 19th 07 04:02 PM

Support the troops
 
On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Reginald Smithers III wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be
wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???


If you go to this web site,www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .


You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.


Have a super day!


So what is your point?
My point is that the "Support the Troops" concept is one where the troops
can actually read a personalized card of support. It really is a great
idea, one I would think you would readily endorse.


Nice snip Jim/Reggie. Why did you snip the following from my post:


"As Tom knows, I pass along the support shown to our troops here to my son
and the other Marines I personally know.


I have yet to read any support from you or John to my son in the "Our
Marine" thread."


'nuff said.


I have never known anyone who needs more stroking than you. I hope your
son got his spine from his mom's side of the family, or he will be in a
world of hurt in the Marines.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Apparently he does need as much stroking as his dad. Jim has stated
that he lets his son read the responses.....

James R. Gallows III November 19th 07 04:20 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change

So many jokes, so little time...

Good morning, James.


It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.


A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 04:34 PM

Support the troops
 
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.

A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.


HK November 19th 07 04:46 PM

Support the troops
 
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in
message ...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a
moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our
Troops. We've got tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season.
Wouldn't it be wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received
a bunch of these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you
can pick out a thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a
soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some
member of the armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine"
supporting my son and his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.

Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked.
I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.
A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you
had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.



You're already retired the A**hole Trophy, Reggie. Why don't you and
your altered egos move onto a usenet group where you'll be appreciated:

ALT-REC.NamelessBoatlessA**holesIDJerkoffs

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 04:47 PM

Support the troops
 
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in
message ...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a
moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our
Troops. We've got tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season.
Wouldn't it be wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course)
received a bunch of these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you
can pick out a thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a
soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to
some member of the armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine"
supporting my son and his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.

Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked.
I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.
A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you
had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.

Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.



You're already retired the A**hole Trophy, Reggie. Why don't you and
your altered egos move onto a usenet group where you'll be appreciated:

ALT-REC.NamelessBoatlessA**holesIDJerkoffs


What has James ever done to you?


Short Wave Sportfishing November 19th 07 05:01 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:54:07 -0500, DownTime
wrote:

Just because some (fill in your own adjective!) politician signed the
treaty or agreement in the first place, does that make it the right
thing to do for the American people?


If the elected representatives believe it, then the answer is yes.
That's why they are elected - to represent the wishes of their
constituency.

Are the lives of our troops a justifiable cost? I do not think so.


Lives are expendable - for any variety of reasons. The peculiar
"enlightened" mindset that lives of troops have to be justifiable is
just plain silly.

Compare the daily toll taken by drunk drivers nationally on a per year
basis - close to 17,000 of our fellow citizens die every year due to
one or more operators of motor vehicles being drunk. That's 48 people
per day dead because of aberrant behavior.

Is that a justifiable cost just to keep liquor, beer and wine
companies in business?

It's all relative. Last year, 1,200 workers died in construction
accidents. 60% of those deaths were workers aged 20 to 24 years old.
Is that a justifiable cost for building things? It must be becasue
every construction contract has a built in identifier for number of
deaths for insurance company tables for potential liability.

To bring this around to war, would the troop deaths be justifiable if,
say, we decided to go to Dafur, kiss ass and take names to bring some
stability to an impoverished nation? Prevent starvation and disease?
Establish a stable government by the people, for the people?

Of course it would be.

James R. Gallows III November 19th 07 05:07 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:34:50 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.
A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.


Why thank you. I will.

Reginald Smithers III November 19th 07 07:06 PM

Support the troops
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:48:36 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
How big? Smoking takes about 45min per pound. I don't want to get up too
early to put the bird on.

15 lbs would be nice


12. We eat at 4. I'll be getting the bird on the smoker about 6. Take it or
leave it.

Did the guy with the PWC battery problem ever get a decent answer?

I will take it. I am on my way now.

I think he got his answer. You can leave it on the floor, unless the
floor is blue.

DownTime November 19th 07 08:02 PM

Support the troops
 
John H. wrote:
Can you speak Chinese?


No, and I have no plans to learn it either.

Glad you brought that up, what good to the USA has come about by
off-shoring jobs and manufacturing? The lead-based paint in children's
toys and poisoned foodstuffs is enough for me to check labels and choose
to only buy American from now on.

John H. November 19th 07 08:05 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:48:36 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change


How big? Smoking takes about 45min per pound. I don't want to get up too
early to put the bird on.


15 lbs would be nice


12. We eat at 4. I'll be getting the bird on the smoker about 6. Take it or
leave it.

Did the guy with the PWC battery problem ever get a decent answer?

John H. November 19th 07 08:05 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:51:46 -0500, DownTime wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:22 am, DownTime wrote:
HK wrote:
There's nothing going on in Iraq that is worth one American life.
This I can agree with. The people there, who HATE each other based on
religious differences, have hated each other for far longer than the USA
has been a country. No amount of American lives will ever change that
fact. One was too many. No amount of aid, or as I call it 'free money'
will change it either.


Through education and mass communication, things can change. Maybe not
even in our lifetimes, but things can and will change. Look at the
south of our own country, desegregation in education is why we have
the tolerance we do now (although not perfect) and hate groups such as
the KKK are pretty much have no value or respect beyond being a
curiosity and the brunt of a few jokes.

Even in the 80's when I lived down there, you could see the effects.
Old fathers in the KKK and kids who went to school with blacks. How
does the father keep up the lies when his kid comes home and tells him
that his black friend Tommy is pretty cool? He is the smartest kid in
math class and his dad is a policeman.

Things can and will change...


OK, now this is two things I can agree with today. Someone stop me
before my wife goes for #3!!!

However the big difference as I interpret it, the first scenario we
discussed was not on our soil, the one you brought up is. Back to HK's
comment, I'd just re-phrase it as "nothing going on outside of our
borders is worth one American life". This in no way is meant to
denigrade or dis-repsect all those souls who have fought the battles up
to this point in time, and have given their lives and sacrificed
families; to them I still have my unending gratitude.

If I was president, the concept of being the big brother to the world
would end within the minute after I was sworn in. Can I count on your
vote?


Can you speak Chinese?

John H. November 19th 07 08:08 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:58:30 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Nov 18, 6:32 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in . net...





JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
. ..
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???


If you go to this web site,
www.LetsSayThanks.comyou can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .


You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.


Have a super day!


I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.


Does your son read rec.boats while he is in training?


As Tom knows, I pass along the support shown to our troops here to my son
and the other Marines I personally know.

I have yet to read any support to my son in the "Our Marine" thread.

So what is your point?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What is YOUR point? My tax dollars are supporting him.


Be nice when discussing *our* Marine.

John H. November 19th 07 08:11 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:20:58 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a moment to go to
the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our Troops. We've got
tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season. Wouldn't it be wonderful
of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received a bunch of
these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a
thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some member of the
armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine" supporting my son and
his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.


Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.


Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked. I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.

smoked would be a nice change

So many jokes, so little time...

Good morning, James.

It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.


A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.


Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


There's nothing odd about having a daughter in the Air Force Reserve. She
deserves our thanks, congratulations, and support. Please pass those on.

I think it would take a lot of balls for any female to join any of the
military. Brave girl. Good luck to her.

John H. November 19th 07 08:13 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:46:11 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:29:53 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:50:28 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:50:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:41:05 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:15 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:39:56 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:22:04 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:24:25 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in
message ...
DownTime wrote:
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Something cool that Xerox is doing ... Please take a
moment to go to the
website below and pick out a thank you card for our
Troops. We've got tons
to be thankful for during the holiday season.
Wouldn't it be wonderful of
each of our soldiers (and Marines, of course) received
a bunch of these???

If you go to this web site, www.LetsSayThanks.com you
can pick out a thank
you card. Then Xerox will print it and send it to a
soldier
currently serving in Iraq .

You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to some
member of the armed
services.

Have a super day!

I guess I missed your comments in the "Our Marine"
supporting my son and his accomplishment.

Please check the thread again, you missed mine.
and mine.
I guess so.

Is that the best humble apology you can do?
He said 'sorry' about four messages ago.

Oh, that was to someone else.

Take it.
I was hoping for a nice thick serving of humble pie.
If you're really hungry, I'll be doing two turkeys this year
Well, I can only eat one.

Maybe I'll do three. You want it smoked, rotisseried, or baked.
I don't do
deep fried. I like my deck too much.
smoked would be a nice change
So many jokes, so little time...
Good morning, James.
It's Jim - please call me Jim.

And good morning.
A few posts back, Reggie called you Jaime, and you didn't seem to mind.
Keeping the Jim's straight is getting difficult around here. If you
had a
daughter in the Air Force, that would help us keep your names straight.

Oddly enough, I do have a daughter in the Air Force Reserve.


Well make sure you tell her that all of us in rec.boats send her our
kind words and support. Tell her I sent her a real nice warm hug.



You're already retired the A**hole Trophy, Reggie. Why don't you and
your altered egos move onto a usenet group where you'll be appreciated:

ALT-REC.NamelessBoatlessA**holesIDJerkoffs


Harry, Jim's daughter deserves as much respect as any other military
relative does. You often come up with cute stuff, but that wasn't. Oh,
there's probably one or two who'll appreciate it, but I don't think you'll
get the accolades you think you deserve.

Shame on you.

DownTime November 19th 07 08:59 PM

Support the troops
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:51 -0500, DownTime wrote:

John H. wrote:
Can you speak Chinese?

No, and I have no plans to learn it either.


Then you'd better hope the USA maintains an interest in world affairs.

Glad you brought that up, what good to the USA has come about by
off-shoring jobs and manufacturing? The lead-based paint in children's
toys and poisoned foodstuffs is enough for me to check labels and choose
to only buy American from now on.


The government didn't offshore, the companies looking for profits did that.
There is a big 'anti-corporate' push coming from a segment of our society.
Why should corporations put up with it? I'm sure, if a certain segment runs
our government, we'll soon see the CEO's following their jobs and
manufacturing. Why be considered the 'bad guy' by those running the
government?


I am not saying to ignore them, or anyone for that matter. I am just
questioning the so-called need to give away billions of dollars annually
in the name of aid to foreign countries and entities for which there is
practically zero return to the USA.

The off-shoring of jobs started as a way to save corporations money, the
truth of the matter is it rarely if ever pans out to be so. The ROI of
these projects is not what you might expect. Have you had a look at what
the companies & top tier folks who supply Asian Indian IT talent are
making? The numbers are mind boggling. The workers who come over are
generally well-educated, but making a fraction of the pay an American
counterpart. The corporations these folks work for make HUGE profits.
The end result is the companies hiring these folks as sub-contractors in
the name of saving money on the per-person cost, are simply fooling
themselves. They end up paying close to the same amount at the end of
the project for what they could have hired locally. But they now have
the feel good sensation of off-shoring to save money, but the project
bottom line proves this is a myth.

General Electric started the big push back in the early 90s. The word
then was GE wanted to sell more products to the growing country of
India. Steam turbines, locomotives, large scale products. The Govt of
India wanted something in trade to help their economy, about the only
reasonable product or service useful in any way to GE was 'IT services".

It started out decent enough, at least initially the resources coming
over were able to communicate effectively and get the jobs done.
Eventually greed took over on the part of their homeland firms and we
had documented cases where the resume and person interviewed over the
phone turned out to not be the person who eventually showed up to do the
work.

John H. November 19th 07 09:24 PM

Support the troops
 
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:51 -0500, DownTime wrote:

John H. wrote:
Can you speak Chinese?


No, and I have no plans to learn it either.


Then you'd better hope the USA maintains an interest in world affairs.


Glad you brought that up, what good to the USA has come about by
off-shoring jobs and manufacturing? The lead-based paint in children's
toys and poisoned foodstuffs is enough for me to check labels and choose
to only buy American from now on.


The government didn't offshore, the companies looking for profits did that.
There is a big 'anti-corporate' push coming from a segment of our society.
Why should corporations put up with it? I'm sure, if a certain segment runs
our government, we'll soon see the CEO's following their jobs and
manufacturing. Why be considered the 'bad guy' by those running the
government?


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