On Nov 17, 4:10 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
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On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my
boat
(fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.
I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.

The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when the
battery charge ways the battery is full).

What did you previously do with the battery over the winter lay-up?
Batteries will self discharge over the winter, especially in colder
areas. A discharged battery will have definitely have a shortened life.

When I had a trailered boat, I was told to bring the battery home to
keep it in the basement and keep a trickle charger on it. Many people
who don't want to bring the battery home, will use a solar panel trickle
charger to keep the battery fully charged.

As I said before, I never had a problem with this technique. Besides, as
you know, you are the last person I would take any sort of advice from.

Wow. "Reggie" claims to have had a "trailered boat." Right.

He gets confused at times. He once said he had a bubble boat and recently
claimed to own a houseboat. When you lie it is easy to get caught up in
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Jim, quit lying. Reggie never stated he owned a houseboat, and you
know it.

On Nov 17, 2:46 pm, " wrote:
On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:



I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my boat
(fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter lay-up.

I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.

The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when the
battery charge ways the battery is full).

The math here just doesn't make sense althogh I am not doubting you. I
would look into other conditions that might cause the problem, such as
wiring and connectors. A wet cell should produce about 1.2 volts per
cell unless one goes bad / becomes sulfated. If all the cells are
good, you should have plenty of juice at the battery. A typical lead
based wet cell battery design has not changed in decades that I know
of and a wet cell should last from 2-4 years typically, and can of
course last considerably longer. Although I have not tried one yet, if
I ever need a new trickle charger, I will get one of the new high tech
ones that monitor the battery and adjust accordingly...

On Nov 17, 4:26 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Nov 17, 11:31 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
No, that is a bad idea. Your truck alternator probably puts out something
around 50 amps max.

How? The power produced by the alternator is regulated. The only way
you'll see that 50A current is if both batteries are dead flat. Then,
the truck's battery will be taking half of that.

That is an assumption. The battery getting the most will be the one
with the least internal resistance. Plus, with a parallel setup the
alternator is going to see a combined resistance lower than the lower
of the two batteries.

IMHO, doable, but only with some additional hardware like a battery
combiner.

PS
I'm wondering how long it will be before the old "concrete floor"
thing comes up....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

Been wondering about that myself!

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On Nov 17, 2:41 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
I have never had a problem just disconnecting the batteries on my
boat
(fully charged) and leaving them in place during the winter
lay-up.
I have bought 4 batteries in 4 years now.

The battery will not be strong enough to start the PWC (even when
the
battery charge ways the battery is full).
What did you previously do with the battery over the winter lay-up?
Batteries will self discharge over the winter, especially in colder
areas. A discharged battery will have definitely have a shortened
life.

When I had a trailered boat, I was told to bring the battery home to
keep it in the basement and keep a trickle charger on it. Many
people who don't want to bring the battery home, will use a solar
panel trickle charger to keep the battery fully charged.
As I said before, I never had a problem with this technique.
Besides, as you know, you are the last person I would take any sort
of advice from.
Wow. "Reggie" claims to have had a "trailered boat." Right.
He gets confused at times. He once said he had a bubble boat and
recently claimed to own a houseboat. When you lie it is easy to get
caught up in them.
Dennis, Please show me a post where I said I owned a houseboat?

Which of your 2+ dozen handles should I search Jim Gallow?

Dennis,
You said I just recently said this, so it really should be easy for you to
find.

Sorry Jim Gallow, I have better things to do.

By the way.......my real name is Jim. Why are you ashamed to post under
your real name Jim G?- Hide quoted text -

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Experts agree that it's foolish to use your real name in newsgroups,
etc.

On Nov 17, 4:51 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
purchasing a new battery each summer.

First, I would suggest that something is wrong with the charging
system in the PWC if you are having to replace batteries every year.

Secondly, wiring it to the truck in parallel wouldn't be a good idea
for a variety of reasons including over charge, unequal charge, etc.

Third, get a "floating" charger rather than a constant "trickle"
charger. The floating charger will turn itself on and off as the
battery requires over winter. You don't really need to remove it from
the PWC - just unconnect it from the PWC (leave it in), hook the
charger to it and plug it in. Unless, of course, that isn't
convenient - in that case just remove it, put it somewhere you can
plug in the charger and let it sit over winter.

I use three floater units on my Ranger over winter and haven't had a
failure yet.

Unless you count the time I left the key and radio on, but that was
Scott's fault. :)

I thought (between the words I can't spell) you told me it was because
you set the battery on a concrete floor. At least you noticed (tested)
before we wet the hull

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On Nov 17, 4:26 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Nov 17, 11:31 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
No, that is a bad idea. Your truck alternator probably puts out
something
around 50 amps max.

How? The power produced by the alternator is regulated. The only way
you'll see that 50A current is if both batteries are dead flat. Then,
the truck's battery will be taking half of that.

That is an assumption. The battery getting the most will be the one
with the least internal resistance. Plus, with a parallel setup the
alternator is going to see a combined resistance lower than the lower
of the two batteries.

IMHO, doable, but only with some additional hardware like a battery
combiner.

PS
I'm wondering how long it will be before the old "concrete floor"
thing comes up....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

Been wondering about that myself!


Storing a battery near anything that's blue in color will make it explode. I
read it somewhere.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Nov 17, 4:26 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Nov 17, 11:31 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
No, that is a bad idea. Your truck alternator probably puts out
something
around 50 amps max.
How? The power produced by the alternator is regulated. The only way
you'll see that 50A current is if both batteries are dead flat. Then,
the truck's battery will be taking half of that.
That is an assumption. The battery getting the most will be the one
with the least internal resistance. Plus, with a parallel setup the
alternator is going to see a combined resistance lower than the lower
of the two batteries.

IMHO, doable, but only with some additional hardware like a battery
combiner.

PS
I'm wondering how long it will be before the old "concrete floor"
thing comes up....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Been wondering about that myself!


Storing a battery near anything that's blue in color will make it explode. I
read it somewhere.




I poured an extra concrete floor just so I could not store my batteries
safely.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Nov 17, 4:26 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0800 (PST), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Nov 17, 11:31 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
No, that is a bad idea. Your truck alternator probably puts out
something
around 50 amps max.
How? The power produced by the alternator is regulated. The only way
you'll see that 50A current is if both batteries are dead flat. Then,
the truck's battery will be taking half of that.
That is an assumption. The battery getting the most will be the one
with the least internal resistance. Plus, with a parallel setup the
alternator is going to see a combined resistance lower than the lower
of the two batteries.

IMHO, doable, but only with some additional hardware like a battery
combiner.

PS
I'm wondering how long it will be before the old "concrete floor"
thing comes up....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Been wondering about that myself!


Storing a battery near anything that's blue in color will make it explode. I
read it somewhere.



Damn that is the way silly rumors get started, it is only when it is
near a soft Columbian blue that you need to worry about it.

I usually get at least 3 years out of a standard wet cell jetski
battery (16CLB) bought at KMart or WalMart. The current one just
finished its 3rd year and was fine when I took it out - who knows next
spring. I don't exactly baby them, using tap water to keep them
filled, etc. but I do take them out for the winter, set them on the
work bench and periodically hook them up to a little smart trickle
charger that I bought at WalMart for $18 a few years ago. The boat
battery is treated the same.

Dave Hall


On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:03:18 -0500, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

I don't think it's the pwc. I've had similar problems with all my small wet
cell batterys. They just don't hold up as well to sitting all winter. They
are often dead the next spring and sulfated enough to not hold a decent
charge. Charging them in the vehicle would probably work just as well but
it's way easier to do it with them out and all together in one place.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:13:38 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

It is my understanding that a battery needs "exercised". Long periods
of non-usage (over the fall/winter/spring months) will result in the
battery loosing its charge and not be able to accept a charge.

With that said, is it possible that if I wired my battery (in
parallel) to my Ford truck battery, will it be "exercised" and be
ready for another full year of boating, or will it damage the PWC
battery?

I'm trying to avoid the cost of trading in the old battery and
purchasing a new battery each summer.

First, I would suggest that something is wrong with the charging
system in the PWC if you are having to replace batteries every year.

Secondly, wiring it to the truck in parallel wouldn't be a good idea
for a variety of reasons including over charge, unequal charge, etc.

Third, get a "floating" charger rather than a constant "trickle"
charger. The floating charger will turn itself on and off as the
battery requires over winter. You don't really need to remove it from
the PWC - just unconnect it from the PWC (leave it in), hook the
charger to it and plug it in. Unless, of course, that isn't
convenient - in that case just remove it, put it somewhere you can
plug in the charger and let it sit over winter.

I use three floater units on my Ranger over winter and haven't had a
failure yet.

Unless you count the time I left the key and radio on, but that was
Scott's fault. :)

I think PWC's are similar to race cars. They beat the battery apart.
When I raced the Vette, I had a lifetime Sears Diehard. Had a quite a few
of them given to me.

"Reginald Smithers III" wrote in message
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Storing a battery near anything that's blue in color will make it
explode. I read it somewhere.

Damn that is the way silly rumors get started, it is only when it is near
a soft Columbian blue that you need to worry about it.



I get the feeling you don't take this seriously. But, as further proof of
the power of colors, I offer this: My 2002 Tacoma owner's manual says that
one way to know if you have the towing package is to look for the color mark
on the fan housing. Different fan clutch. I believe it's the orange mark
that's better for towing than the green one, although I may have that
backwards. They say you can change the assembly, but they don't tell you
that you can just go out there with some paint and change the colored mark.
Why?

Because they don't want you to know.