On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:56:43 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:11:05 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:18 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

The Chesapeake Bay has a huge amount of commercial traffic. Head boats,
party boats, car carriers, container ships, LNG ships.
Yes, and they travel at 20+ kts leaving a pretty big bow wave that
travels for miles.
So who was talking about commercial traffic?
We were. What diference does it make? A wake is a wake.

Deal with it, as soon as Lake Eerie warms up 6 or 7 months from now.
Cleveland was on the 6 o'clock news tonight and the weather looked
miserable, nice medical center though.

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

DEAl with IT

I did - quite well in fact. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)


Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub
captain, an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's
driving a bait boat now.

"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)


Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever witnessed
as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels to SF bay.

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever witnessed
as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels to SF bay.



You can doubt it all you wish. It was covered on the TV news in Jax, and
there were a couple of articles in the area newspapers.

"HK" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub
captain, an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's
driving a bait boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels
to SF bay.

You can doubt it all you wish. It was covered on the TV news in Jax, and
there were a couple of articles in the area newspapers.

I doubt he is driving a date barge.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub
captain, an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's
driving a bait boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore
channels to SF bay.

You can doubt it all you wish. It was covered on the TV news in Jax, and
there were a couple of articles in the area newspapers.

I doubt he is driving a date barge.


Or a bait barge.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:42:51 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever witnessed
as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels to SF bay.

Bow wave/wake - same damn thing in effect. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:42:51 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
m...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I know you've been on LIS up near The Race when a sub comes out of
New
London. I swear, it's about the only time I've ever been surprized
by
the size and depth of a wake - had just about enough time to quarter
the three waves or I would have taken a ton of water aboard the
Ranger.

Talk about a wake. :)

Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on
the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed
as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels to SF bay.

Bow wave/wake - same damn thing in effect. :)

Nope, the sub bow wave is HUGE compared to any of the tanker wakes. Much
more affected by effect.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.

I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels
to SF bay.


Subs are always escorted out of near harbor areas and an exclusion zone for
other boat traffic is strictly enforced.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Maybe 10-15 years ago, one of those sub bow waves capsized a commercial
fishing boat near the Kings Bay sub base in Georgia, and my memory on the
event is vague, but I think there were drowning deaths. The sub captain,
an arrogant ass, said something like "deal with it." He's driving a bait
boat now.
I doubt that. The subs that use to base at Mare Island always had CG
escorts. And the bow wave exceeds anything else that I have ever
witnessed as to wakes. And I fish near a couple of the offshore channels
to SF bay.


Subs are always escorted out of near harbor areas and an exclusion zone for
other boat traffic is strictly enforced.

Eisboch




Which doesn't prevent a bow wave from capsizing nearby boats.