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Interesting concept:

http://www.seakeeper.com/gyro.html

Looks like about $100k all done, however. Price will be an issue at
that level, particularly for many folks owning one of the boats on the
smaller end of the size range for a single gyro application, 35-55
feet.

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On Nov 7, 12:25 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting concept:

http://www.seakeeper.com/gyro.html

Looks like about $100k all done, however. Price will be an issue at
that level, particularly for many folks owning one of the boats on the
smaller end of the size range for a single gyro application, 35-55
feet.


How can lamb on pita do that? Okay, okay, so I'm NOT a comedian!

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting concept:

http://www.seakeeper.com/gyro.html

Looks like about $100k all done, however. Price will be an issue at
that level, particularly for many folks owning one of the boats on the
smaller end of the size range for a single gyro application, 35-55
feet.



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Interesting idea, though.

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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:25:02 -0800, Chuck Gould
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Interesting concept:

http://www.seakeeper.com/gyro.html

Looks like about $100k all done, however. Price will be an issue at
that level, particularly for many folks owning one of the boats on the
smaller end of the size range for a single gyro application, 35-55
feet.


Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..
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Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..


The gyro vacuum enclosure appears to be mechanically restricted to fore and
aft gimble movement, so I suspect it stabilizes on one axis only.

How the fore and aft movement translates to stabilizing beam to beam I think
has something to do with the principles of gyroscopic progression, similar
to helecopter controls of blade pitch.

But, I might be wrong.

Eisboch




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Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..


The gyro vacuum enclosure appears to be mechanically restricted to fore
and aft gimble movement, so I suspect it stabilizes on one axis only.

How the fore and aft movement translates to stabilizing beam to beam I
think has something to do with the principles of gyroscopic progression,
similar to helecopter controls of blade pitch.

But, I might be wrong.

Eisboch



I've been studying the drawing of the system and thinking about it. I think
I know how it works.
Pretty clever. When the boat starts to rock, the spinning gyro exerts a
force opposite to the boat's rocking direction. That force is coupled to
the beam located in the boat (probably a stringer) that either lifts or
pushes on it to counteract the direction of the "rock".

Eisboch


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Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..

The gyro vacuum enclosure appears to be mechanically restricted to fore
and aft gimble movement, so I suspect it stabilizes on one axis only.

How the fore and aft movement translates to stabilizing beam to beam I
think has something to do with the principles of gyroscopic progression,
similar to helecopter controls of blade pitch.

But, I might be wrong.

Eisboch



I've been studying the drawing of the system and thinking about it. I think
I know how it works.
Pretty clever. When the boat starts to rock, the spinning gyro exerts a
force opposite to the boat's rocking direction. That force is coupled to
the beam located in the boat (probably a stringer) that either lifts or
pushes on it to counteract the direction of the "rock".

Eisboch




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Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..


The gyro vacuum enclosure appears to be mechanically restricted to fore
and aft gimble movement, so I suspect it stabilizes on one axis only.

How the fore and aft movement translates to stabilizing beam to beam I
think has something to do with the principles of gyroscopic progression,
similar to helecopter controls of blade pitch.

But, I might be wrong.


I've been studying the drawing of the system and thinking about it. I think
I know how it works.

Pretty clever. When the boat starts to rock, the spinning gyro exerts a
force opposite to the boat's rocking direction. That force is coupled to
the beam located in the boat (probably a stringer) that either lifts or
pushes on it to counteract the direction of the "rock".


Sound like it might work that way.

I wish I knew more about how gyroscopes work. Can they be mounted
such that the output axis is fixed rather than three dimensional?
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..


The gyro vacuum enclosure appears to be mechanically restricted to fore
and aft gimble movement, so I suspect it stabilizes on one axis only.

How the fore and aft movement translates to stabilizing beam to beam I
think has something to do with the principles of gyroscopic progression,
similar to helecopter controls of blade pitch.

But, I might be wrong.

Eisboch



I've been studying the drawing of the system and thinking about it. I
think I know how it works.
Pretty clever. When the boat starts to rock, the spinning gyro exerts a
force opposite to the boat's rocking direction. That force is coupled to
the beam located in the boat (probably a stringer) that either lifts or
pushes on it to counteract the direction of the "rock".

Eisboch


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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Interesting video.

I wonder how it affects bow-to-stern movement? It is a gyro - seems
to me that if it has that much of an effect on side-to-side roll, it
would have the same effect on bow-to-stern movement..

The gyro vacuum enclosure appears to be mechanically restricted to fore
and aft gimble movement, so I suspect it stabilizes on one axis only.

How the fore and aft movement translates to stabilizing beam to beam I
think has something to do with the principles of gyroscopic progression,
similar to helecopter controls of blade pitch.

But, I might be wrong.

Eisboch



I've been studying the drawing of the system and thinking about it. I
think I know how it works.
Pretty clever. When the boat starts to rock, the spinning gyro exerts a
force opposite to the boat's rocking direction. That force is coupled to
the beam located in the boat (probably a stringer) that either lifts or
pushes on it to counteract the direction of the "rock".

Eisboch


http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/72...scription.html



Hey, I was pretty close! Not bad for an electrical guy.

Eisboch




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