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Short Wave Sportfishing November 5th 07 08:31 PM

Paint
 
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:21:20 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote:

Because my wife put the brakes on it, but thanks for the great responce very
helpful


The thing of it is, Eisboch is right.

Are you repainting an already painted hull? As in factory baked on
enamel?

Painting aluminum can be rather laborious process if you are starting
with bare metal. On older boats, you can never get the aluminum
absoutely clean enough for primer to properly stick. I did do it once
with a boat that had been painted - ended up soda blasting the hull to
get some primer on and even then, it was expensive.

Short Wave Sportfishing November 5th 07 08:38 PM

Paint/questions
 
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:29:22 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote:

The only thing is I will have some patches that will be visible but I guess
thats not really a big issue :-) Another couple of questions any experience
with alumaloy brazing rod you use with a torch? How effective is a epoxy
patch on a hairline crack and best ways to remove tar that bin applied to
the floor? I thank you in advance for the help :-)


Yes - dont' use the brazing rod - it doesn't work for crap.

That aluminum boat I mentioned earlier had a crack along one rib that
ran lengthwise for about a foot. I tried a few epoxies, sanding down
the area to bright, then using the filler, but it never worked. If I
had thought about it, I would have realised that aluminum flexes and
epoxy is fairly rigid - the two don't necessarily go together.

So, after much acetone and cursing, I finally had a welder with a TIG
get up just weld it. Lasted as long as I needed and last time I knew,
the boat was still floating and didn't leak. In my opinion, the only
way to go is to weld the crack closed - it's not going to cause a
major "brake" on your budget.

Tar on the floor? As in tar tar or a black substance? Is the floor
aluminum, wood, carpet?

If it's tar on the aluminum, use acetone - finger nail polish works as
well, but it's not a strong. If it's tar on wood or carpet, good
luck.

Nelson November 5th 07 11:40 PM

Paint/questions
 
Its tar on the aluminium floor but it looks like seal paper over top lol


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:29:22 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote:

The only thing is I will have some patches that will be visible but I

guess
thats not really a big issue :-) Another couple of questions any

experience
with alumaloy brazing rod you use with a torch? How effective is a epoxy
patch on a hairline crack and best ways to remove tar that bin applied to
the floor? I thank you in advance for the help :-)


Yes - dont' use the brazing rod - it doesn't work for crap.

That aluminum boat I mentioned earlier had a crack along one rib that
ran lengthwise for about a foot. I tried a few epoxies, sanding down
the area to bright, then using the filler, but it never worked. If I
had thought about it, I would have realised that aluminum flexes and
epoxy is fairly rigid - the two don't necessarily go together.

So, after much acetone and cursing, I finally had a welder with a TIG
get up just weld it. Lasted as long as I needed and last time I knew,
the boat was still floating and didn't leak. In my opinion, the only
way to go is to weld the crack closed - it's not going to cause a
major "brake" on your budget.

Tar on the floor? As in tar tar or a black substance? Is the floor
aluminum, wood, carpet?

If it's tar on the aluminum, use acetone - finger nail polish works as
well, but it's not a strong. If it's tar on wood or carpet, good
luck.




Wayne.B November 5th 07 11:44 PM

Paint
 
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:23 -0000, wrote:

What makes you think your budget has brakes?

Eisboch


Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff
and the wife gets the credit card bill!


That would be a bad brake.

HK November 5th 07 11:56 PM

Paint
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:23 -0000, wrote:

What makes you think your budget has brakes?

Eisboch

Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff
and the wife gets the credit card bill!


That would be a bad brake.


Bad break.

Short Wave Sportfishing November 6th 07 12:07 AM

Paint/questions
 
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:40:52 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote:

Its tar on the aluminium floor but it looks like seal paper over top lol


Hmmm - I wonder...

There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it
seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar,
but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names.
I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum
boats.

It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail
polish.

Give that a try.

Wayne.B November 6th 07 02:46 AM

Paint/questions
 
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:07:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it
seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar,
but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names.
I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum
boats.

It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail
polish.


Heck if you're going to go that route, why not use duct tape? I'm
surprised that no one has tried to build an entire boat from it. :-)

Wayne.B November 6th 07 02:48 AM

Paint
 
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:56:38 -0500, HK wrote:

What makes you think your budget has brakes?

Eisboch
Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff
and the wife gets the credit card bill!


That would be a bad brake.


Bad break.


Whooooosh !

Eisboch November 6th 07 02:51 AM

Paint/questions
 

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:07:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it
seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar,
but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names.
I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum
boats.

It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail
polish.



In the Navy it's commonly known as "monkey ****".

Eisboch



Eisboch November 6th 07 02:54 AM

Paint/questions
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:07:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it
seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar,
but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names.
I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum
boats.

It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail
polish.



In the Navy it's commonly known as "monkey ****".

Eisboch


Also known as "duct seal" in the civilian world, if we are talking about the
same stuff.
Some hardware stores carry it.

Eisboch




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