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"Nelson" wrote in message ... I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson What makes you think your budget has brakes? Eisboch |
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On Nov 5, 9:54?am, "Nelson" wrote:
I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson I found these remarks that may prove useful: "To paint Aluminum is labor intensive. The environmental effects of zinc chromate (aluminum primer) is deadly to the human body. We use Aluma-wash then Alumiprep before the primer is applied. Awl- Grip is the preferred color paint involving a two part process that is expensive. All Aluminum starts corroding (rusting) once it hits the air while some have anodizing applied but if scratched or welded the erosion continues. Our boats range from 40 to 200 feet and few paint jobs last more than ten years. In Ft.Lauderdale, a private tug named Hero still operates for over 30 years without any paint. She is all aluminum with an aircooled diesel and no thru-hulls. Her entire hull covering exists of a wax coating on the inside and outside. Zero problems and no maintenance after the initial coat. stevens marine - Ft .Laud. Fla. USA" |
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Nelson wrote:
I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson Yes, don't paint it. Let it oxidize to a nice patina. |
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I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that
will not brake the budget? Nelson |
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On Nov 5, 11:59 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Nelson" wrote in message ... I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson What makes you think your budget has brakes? Eisboch Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff and the wife gets the credit card bill! |
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Because my wife put the brakes on it, but thanks for the great responce very
helpful Nelson "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Nelson" wrote in message ... I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson What makes you think your budget has brakes? Eisboch |
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I have seen a few products for just coating that is also an option, thank
you Chuck for useful information Nelson "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ups.com... On Nov 5, 9:54?am, "Nelson" wrote: I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson I found these remarks that may prove useful: "To paint Aluminum is labor intensive. The environmental effects of zinc chromate (aluminum primer) is deadly to the human body. We use Aluma-wash then Alumiprep before the primer is applied. Awl- Grip is the preferred color paint involving a two part process that is expensive. All Aluminum starts corroding (rusting) once it hits the air while some have anodizing applied but if scratched or welded the erosion continues. Our boats range from 40 to 200 feet and few paint jobs last more than ten years. In Ft.Lauderdale, a private tug named Hero still operates for over 30 years without any paint. She is all aluminum with an aircooled diesel and no thru-hulls. Her entire hull covering exists of a wax coating on the inside and outside. Zero problems and no maintenance after the initial coat. stevens marine - Ft .Laud. Fla. USA" |
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The only thing is I will have some patches that will be visible but I guess
thats not really a big issue :-) Another couple of questions any experience with alumaloy brazing rod you use with a torch? How effective is a epoxy patch on a hairline crack and best ways to remove tar that bin applied to the floor? I thank you in advance for the help :-) Nelson "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Nelson wrote: I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson Yes, don't paint it. Let it oxidize to a nice patina. |
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Tons of help :-) and yes big mess, the crack is behind a rib on the bottom
it looks like the seat bracket came loose and rubbed up and down on the bottom is approx 5" long and at the most 1/32" wide. I will skip on the alumaloy the other thought is getting a piece of aluminium larger then the crack jb weld the patch onto the boat then use self sealing pop rivets around it? And the tar with the soaked rag will be a pain in the a#$ but great idea :-) Thats what I will do and right now all this work is out doors then I will drop it in the garage Nelson "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:29:22 -0500, Nelson penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: The only thing is I will have some patches that will be visible but I guess thats not really a big issue :-) Another couple of questions any experience with alumaloy brazing rod you use with a torch? It sucks. It is way too hard and brittle to help.... and if the boat is made of heat treated material you'll ruin the boat. How effective is a epoxy patch on a hairline crack It depends. What is it that is cracked? and best ways to remove tar that bin applied to the floor? I thank you in advance for the help :-) If it is really tar. Use a solvent soaked rag... this is all outdoors and away from all buildings, right?.... to soften the tar and scrape off with a plastic scraper. What a mess. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats |
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:21:20 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote: Because my wife put the brakes on it, but thanks for the great responce very helpful The thing of it is, Eisboch is right. Are you repainting an already painted hull? As in factory baked on enamel? Painting aluminum can be rather laborious process if you are starting with bare metal. On older boats, you can never get the aluminum absoutely clean enough for primer to properly stick. I did do it once with a boat that had been painted - ended up soda blasting the hull to get some primer on and even then, it was expensive. |
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:29:22 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote: The only thing is I will have some patches that will be visible but I guess thats not really a big issue :-) Another couple of questions any experience with alumaloy brazing rod you use with a torch? How effective is a epoxy patch on a hairline crack and best ways to remove tar that bin applied to the floor? I thank you in advance for the help :-) Yes - dont' use the brazing rod - it doesn't work for crap. That aluminum boat I mentioned earlier had a crack along one rib that ran lengthwise for about a foot. I tried a few epoxies, sanding down the area to bright, then using the filler, but it never worked. If I had thought about it, I would have realised that aluminum flexes and epoxy is fairly rigid - the two don't necessarily go together. So, after much acetone and cursing, I finally had a welder with a TIG get up just weld it. Lasted as long as I needed and last time I knew, the boat was still floating and didn't leak. In my opinion, the only way to go is to weld the crack closed - it's not going to cause a major "brake" on your budget. Tar on the floor? As in tar tar or a black substance? Is the floor aluminum, wood, carpet? If it's tar on the aluminum, use acetone - finger nail polish works as well, but it's not a strong. If it's tar on wood or carpet, good luck. |
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Its tar on the aluminium floor but it looks like seal paper over top lol
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:29:22 -0500, "Nelson" wrote: The only thing is I will have some patches that will be visible but I guess thats not really a big issue :-) Another couple of questions any experience with alumaloy brazing rod you use with a torch? How effective is a epoxy patch on a hairline crack and best ways to remove tar that bin applied to the floor? I thank you in advance for the help :-) Yes - dont' use the brazing rod - it doesn't work for crap. That aluminum boat I mentioned earlier had a crack along one rib that ran lengthwise for about a foot. I tried a few epoxies, sanding down the area to bright, then using the filler, but it never worked. If I had thought about it, I would have realised that aluminum flexes and epoxy is fairly rigid - the two don't necessarily go together. So, after much acetone and cursing, I finally had a welder with a TIG get up just weld it. Lasted as long as I needed and last time I knew, the boat was still floating and didn't leak. In my opinion, the only way to go is to weld the crack closed - it's not going to cause a major "brake" on your budget. Tar on the floor? As in tar tar or a black substance? Is the floor aluminum, wood, carpet? If it's tar on the aluminum, use acetone - finger nail polish works as well, but it's not a strong. If it's tar on wood or carpet, good luck. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:23 -0000, wrote: What makes you think your budget has brakes? Eisboch Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff and the wife gets the credit card bill! That would be a bad brake. Bad break. |
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:40:52 -0500, "Nelson"
wrote: Its tar on the aluminium floor but it looks like seal paper over top lol Hmmm - I wonder... There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar, but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names. I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum boats. It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail polish. Give that a try. |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:07:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar, but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names. I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum boats. It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail polish. Heck if you're going to go that route, why not use duct tape? I'm surprised that no one has tried to build an entire boat from it. :-) |
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:56:38 -0500, HK wrote:
What makes you think your budget has brakes? Eisboch Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff and the wife gets the credit card bill! That would be a bad brake. Bad break. Whooooosh ! |
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:07:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar, but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names. I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum boats. It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail polish. In the Navy it's commonly known as "monkey ****". Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:07:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: There is a putty like substance that is sold for antenna work - it seals connectors and entrance holes in buildings. It looks like tar, but it's not - it's called Connector Seal, Coax-Sea and other names. I've seen guys use it to plug holes in boats in particular aluminum boats. It's basically a rubber base compound and should dissolve with nail polish. In the Navy it's commonly known as "monkey ****". Eisboch Also known as "duct seal" in the civilian world, if we are talking about the same stuff. Some hardware stores carry it. Eisboch |
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On Nov 5, 3:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:23 -0000, wrote: On Nov 5, 11:59 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Nelson" wrote in message ... I am rebuilding my aluminium boat any suggestion on primer and paint that will not brake the budget? Nelson What makes you think your budget has brakes? Eisboch Mine does, and they engage when I'm spending too much on boat stuff and the wife gets the credit card bill! LOL!!! Oh yeah - been there, done that. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I don't know what her problem is! But, now that she's got her a pretty little sailboat out in the yard, things may change! I can run up a fair bill at Bass Pro or Boater's World throwing some bass boat stuff in there, and tell her it's all for the sailboat! |
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On Nov 5, 3:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
If it's tar on the aluminum, use acetone - finger nail polish works as well, but it's not a strong. If it's tar on wood or carpet, good luck. And get right in there with it, it saves on beer money! |
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Lol I quit drinking a year ago, maybe I found a new hobby lol
wrote in message ups.com... On Nov 5, 3:38 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: If it's tar on the aluminum, use acetone - finger nail polish works as well, but it's not a strong. If it's tar on wood or carpet, good luck. And get right in there with it, it saves on beer money! |
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