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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:08:14 -0000, Tim wrote:
wrote: I have a 32' Luhrs Sportfisher. Currently with Chrysler 318 engines. I have 2 Chevrolet 350 4 bolt marine engines, one standard, one reverse rotation. I would like to find out what spec. and what parts I need to build these engines to 280 to 300 hp on carburators. The boat weights 17000 lbs. It is my understanding I need foot lbs. of torque more than rpm. Anyone know if there is a guide or book? Anyone with information. Thanks in advance. I'm not really sure, but one thing I'd like to know, is why would you want to replace teh Chryslers with the chevys? Not saying one brand is superior to the other, but your mounting and manifolds and trans bolt patterns are completely different,a nd I would think that it would take a lot more work to change over the engines instead of rebuild the 318's. Are the 318's the old "Big Blocks"? if so, they are vertually the same blocks as the the 383's, 413,s qand 440's, which would be easier to overhaul and get the horsepower/torque you're looking for. If the 318's are the later "small block" versions, they are the same a block as the 360 and late 60's 274, and you might be strained on getting the results you desire. Interesting - not that I don't believe you, but as far as I knew, MOPAR never built a big block 318. Then again, I'm not all that up on MOPAR stuff unless it involves the 440. |
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On Nov 3, 4:02?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:08:14 -0000, Tim wrote: wrote: I have a 32' Luhrs Sportfisher. Currently with Chrysler 318 engines. I have 2 Chevrolet 350 4 bolt marine engines, one standard, one reverse rotation. I would like to find out what spec. and what parts I need to build these engines to 280 to 300 hp on carburators. The boat weights 17000 lbs. It is my understanding I need foot lbs. of torque more than rpm. Anyone know if there is a guide or book? Anyone with information. Thanks in advance. I'm not really sure, but one thing I'd like to know, is why would you want to replace teh Chryslers with the chevys? Not saying one brand is superior to the other, but your mounting and manifolds and trans bolt patterns are completely different,a nd I would think that it would take a lot more work to change over the engines instead of rebuild the 318's. Are the 318's the old "Big Blocks"? if so, they are vertually the same blocks as the the 383's, 413,s qand 440's, which would be easier to overhaul and get the horsepower/torque you're looking for. If the 318's are the later "small block" versions, they are the same a block as the 360 and late 60's 274, and you might be strained on getting the results you desire. Interesting - not that I don't believe you, but as far as I knew, MOPAR never built a big block 318. Then again, I'm not all that up on MOPAR stuff unless it involves the 440.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - http://www.sweptline.com/tech/engines.html Tom, Richard and everybody else. I DO STAND CORRECTED! The early 318 "A" was NOT clasified as a "Big Block" but rather a Polysphere (or Wideblock) 318. Obviously not the same as the 318 "LA" which was classed as a true "small block" but not the large 383-440 Big Block either, even though it did have heavier castings and big block "characteristics". But I'm still not sure if the 413 is in between the 383-440's or if it was an over punched wide block 318. Again I Humbly apologize. You learn something everyday. THANKS! Tim |
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:43:13 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Nov 3, 4:02?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:08:14 -0000, Tim wrote: wrote: I have a 32' Luhrs Sportfisher. Currently with Chrysler 318 engines. I have 2 Chevrolet 350 4 bolt marine engines, one standard, one reverse rotation. I would like to find out what spec. and what parts I need to build these engines to 280 to 300 hp on carburators. The boat weights 17000 lbs. It is my understanding I need foot lbs. of torque more than rpm. Anyone know if there is a guide or book? Anyone with information. Thanks in advance. I'm not really sure, but one thing I'd like to know, is why would you want to replace teh Chryslers with the chevys? Not saying one brand is superior to the other, but your mounting and manifolds and trans bolt patterns are completely different,a nd I would think that it would take a lot more work to change over the engines instead of rebuild the 318's. Are the 318's the old "Big Blocks"? if so, they are vertually the same blocks as the the 383's, 413,s qand 440's, which would be easier to overhaul and get the horsepower/torque you're looking for. If the 318's are the later "small block" versions, they are the same a block as the 360 and late 60's 274, and you might be strained on getting the results you desire. Interesting - not that I don't believe you, but as far as I knew, MOPAR never built a big block 318. Then again, I'm not all that up on MOPAR stuff unless it involves the 440.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - http://www.sweptline.com/tech/engines.html Tom, Richard and everybody else. I DO STAND CORRECTED! The early 318 "A" was NOT clasified as a "Big Block" but rather a Polysphere (or Wideblock) 318. Obviously not the same as the 318 "LA" which was classed as a true "small block" but not the large 383-440 Big Block either, even though it did have heavier castings and big block "characteristics". But I'm still not sure if the 413 is in between the 383-440's or if it was an over punched wide block 318. Again I Humbly apologize. You learn something everyday. No reason to apologize - all those different engines of the day were simply amazing. There aren't very many "classic" engines, but certainly the 318 stands alone as the best engine ever developed. I might rank the 220 slant six as one and the 220 Silver Diamond International six as another. Also considered - 327, 350 and the great 564 International/Ford truck engine along with the 7.3 liter diesel. |
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![]() "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... There aren't very many "classic" engines, but certainly the 318 stands alone as the best engine ever developed. I might rank the 220 slant six as one and the 220 Silver Diamond International six as another. Also considered - 327, 350 and the great 564 International/Ford truck engine along with the 7.3 liter diesel. I'd thrown in Ford's 260/289/302 as well. The 289 powered many cars, large and small. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 05:48:39 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . There aren't very many "classic" engines, but certainly the 318 stands alone as the best engine ever developed. I might rank the 220 slant six as one and the 220 Silver Diamond International six as another. Also considered - 327, 350 and the great 564 International/Ford truck engine along with the 7.3 liter diesel. I'd thrown in Ford's 260/289/302 as well. The 289 powered many cars, large and small. Agreed. |
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On Nov 4, 5:08 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 05:48:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . There aren't very many "classic" engines, but certainly the 318 stands alone as the best engine ever developed. I might rank the 220 slant six as one and the 220 Silver Diamond International six as another. Also considered - 327, 350 and the great 564 International/Ford truck engine along with the 7.3 liter diesel. I'd thrown in Ford's 260/289/302 as well. The 289 powered many cars, large and small. Agreed. the 390 wasn't bad either. the 351 Cleveland was a good all around performance engine, and tthe 351 Windsor wasnt' that hot but was a fairly reliable workhorse. hmmm, two completely different 351's |
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 05:48:39 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . There aren't very many "classic" engines, but certainly the 318 stands alone as the best engine ever developed. I might rank the 220 slant six as one and the 220 Silver Diamond International six as another. Also considered - 327, 350 and the great 564 International/Ford truck engine along with the 7.3 liter diesel. I'd thrown in Ford's 260/289/302 as well. The 289 powered many cars, large and small. For numbers powered the GM 2.8/3.1 might be there. I saw a car magazine (Car & Driver?) article about a year ago that was titled something like "the top 10 engines of all time." I remember the GM 3800 (maybe 3.8) and the Nissan 3.0 were 2 of them, but can't remember much else. I've put most of my miles on 2.8/3.1's, with 350's next. --Vic |
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