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Gil October 31st 07 12:57 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol
is added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is
too much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?

G

William Andersen October 31st 07 02:39 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
Nonsense.
"Gil" wrote in message
...
How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol is
added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is too
much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?

G




Gil October 31st 07 02:44 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
Will-

Probably not today's motor, but I was using a Suzuki DT140 (1985) that
was rebuilt and after 2nd weekend..it blew... The repair guy is telling
me it is either oil injector did not work or it self overheated and
froze. Its hard to get a 2nd opinion when I work 7 to 5 everyday and
not a lot of outboard shops open on weekends.

G

William Andersen wrote:
Nonsense.
"Gil" wrote in message
...

How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol is
added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is too
much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?

G





Wayne.B October 31st 07 02:54 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:32 -0400, Gil wrote:

How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol
is added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is
too much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?

Most of the issues I've heard about were related to leaking seals and
water absorption. There are also problems with fiberglass fuel tanks.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 31st 07 04:02 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:32 -0400, Gil wrote:

How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol
is added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is
too much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?


Modern synthetic oils blend well with ethanol enhanced gasoline so
lubrication isn't a problem per se.

However, ethanol doesn't play well with standard blend two cycle oils.
In that sense, your mechanic is right.

Use a good synthetic and you'll be fine.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 31st 07 05:00 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:32 -0400, Gil wrote:

How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol
is added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is
too much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?


Modern synthetic oils blend well with ethanol enhanced gasoline so
lubrication isn't a problem per se.

However, ethanol doesn't play well with standard blend two cycle oils.
In that sense, your mechanic is right.

Use a good synthetic and you'll be fine.


When they first started to blend ethanol, a number of older boats had
trouble with the ethanol not playing well with the fuel hoses/tubes and
gaskets in the fuel line. I haven't heard of this problem lately, so I
think the ones that reacted to the ethanol have all been replaced.

Gil October 31st 07 07:08 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
Too late..the engine overheated and froze the piston... :-(

G

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:32 -0400, Gil wrote:


How much truth should this be?

I got a service guy telling me that now the Govt mandates that Ethanol
is added to gasoline. The guy was telling me at certain percentage is
too much for the outboard engines that causes the head/piston to fail.

What do you think?



Modern synthetic oils blend well with ethanol enhanced gasoline so
lubrication isn't a problem per se.

However, ethanol doesn't play well with standard blend two cycle oils.
In that sense, your mechanic is right.

Use a good synthetic and you'll be fine.


Short Wave Sportfishing October 31st 07 09:03 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:34:52 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Consider this.... a new 24' Bayliner carries 64 gallons of fuel.
Burring E85, that would be like taking along about 48 gallons of
gasoline. I hope you aren't going far....


I've been told by some pretty reputable people in the outboard
industry that the one thing they are afraid of is E85 being mandated.

Don't know if it's true, but I'm inclined to believe them.

Eisboch October 31st 07 09:04 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:34:52 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Consider this.... a new 24' Bayliner carries 64 gallons of fuel.
Burring E85, that would be like taking along about 48 gallons of
gasoline. I hope you aren't going far....


I've been told by some pretty reputable people in the outboard
industry that the one thing they are afraid of is E85 being mandated.

Don't know if it's true, but I'm inclined to believe them.




Hopefully, the government and industry will come to their senses before
then.
Corn just ain't the answer.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing October 31st 07 11:17 PM

Rumor of Ethanol causing older outboard engines to 'blow up'?
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:19:45 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:34:52 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Consider this.... a new 24' Bayliner carries 64 gallons of fuel.
Burring E85, that would be like taking along about 48 gallons of
gasoline. I hope you aren't going far....

I've been told by some pretty reputable people in the outboard
industry that the one thing they are afraid of is E85 being mandated.

Don't know if it's true, but I'm inclined to believe them.




Hopefully, the government and industry will come to their senses before
then.

Corn just ain't the answer.


We need SW to finally come clean on some of the technology used in
intergalactic travel.....maybe we can eventually beam up/down from place to
place.

Come clean Tom. ;-)


Well, it's this way.

It's a Dimensional Inertialess Quantum Skip Drive.

Quantum principles dictate that there are infinite universes based on
decision points. For example, let's say that you choose to go to the
local Gandhi Mart instead of Stop and Shop. Your decision has created
a separate universe based on that decision. The neighboring universe
is the one in which you chose to go to Stop and Shop is identical to
the one in which you went to Gandhi Mart only the decision point has
changed.

Using this principle, the Dimensional Inertialess Quantum Skip Drive
allows movement from a position in one dimension to a position in a
neighboring dimension. That neighbor dimension is identical to your
dimension with the sole exception of the decision point that created
it. It is totally transparent to you because, essentially, it is
identical to your previous dimension.

The exact process is a by product of Hilbert Space functions using
zero point time/space analysis in infinite dimensional space instead
of two or three dimensional Euclidean geometry.

Pretty simple stuff actually.


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