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On Oct 31, 3:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Did you get jostled around last night?
The in-laws in Pleasant Hill and Concord reported some pictures
knocked off the wall, etc. nothing major. Heard it was on the
Calavaras fault. Hope that doesn't set up stress in the Hayward fault.

Yes we shook fairly well. We are about 3 miles from the Calaveras fault,
but on a rocky hillside., not down in the alluvial plains that are the
valley floor around here. The Calaveras fault is much more likely to
have a
7+ quake than the Hayward according to a lot of the seismologists.
Friend
is with the USGS and is an earthquake guru and that is what he reports.
My
mom lives very near the Hayward fault as it traverses the Oakland hills.
But her house was bolted to the foundation when it was build in 1908.
Amazes some people that they figured that out back then. Thanks for
asking.
We had no damage, and only the chandelier rattled for about 5 minutes.

The in-laws in Pleasant Hill aren't on the valley floor, but are
fairly low, the underlying soil structure is chert and weathered rock,
they barely felt it. One thing that people don't understand is that
with even a moderate quake, you can very likely have some sort of
structure damage. The Richter scale doesn't tell the whole story, as
there are two factors, acceleration, and velocity. So you can likely
have some sheetrock finishing to do, etc. Glad you came out with no
damage. When I was there taking a seismic course, at the time they
were studying the Hayward fault, and had a place close to Concord that
they'd excavated like slicing through it, so they could study the soil
(liquifaction, etc.) It was interesting.
But I don't know about the Calavaras being more likely to have a major
quake, they call the Hayward a tectonic time bomb, and are stressing
that it could produce a 7+ at any time. As a slip fault, it doesn't
slip much, stores the stresses, then when friction can't hold anymore,
wham.


I know about damage. The Loma Prieta quake cracked the swimming pool.
About $5500 damage. Friend with the USGS says lot of his co-scientists
figure the Hayward is just not capable of a 7. Actually it slips a lot.
Why you can see a lot of the creep in the sidewalk and curbs.

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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:49:48 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 1, 2:17 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:55:05 -0000, wrote:
On Oct 31, 3:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Did you get jostled around last night?
The in-laws in Pleasant Hill and Concord reported some pictures
knocked off the wall, etc. nothing major. Heard it was on the
Calavaras fault. Hope that doesn't set up stress in the Hayward
fault.

Yes we shook fairly well. We are about 3 miles from the Calaveras
fault,
but on a rocky hillside., not down in the alluvial plains that are
the
valley floor around here. The Calaveras fault is much more likely to
have a
7+ quake than the Hayward according to a lot of the seismologists.
Friend
is with the USGS and is an earthquake guru and that is what he
reports. My
mom lives very near the Hayward fault as it traverses the Oakland
hills.
But her house was bolted to the foundation when it was build in 1908.
Amazes some people that they figured that out back then. Thanks for
asking.
We had no damage, and only the chandelier rattled for about 5
minutes.

The in-laws in Pleasant Hill aren't on the valley floor, but are
fairly low, the underlying soil structure is chert and weathered rock,
they barely felt it. One thing that people don't understand is that
with even a moderate quake, you can very likely have some sort of
structure damage. The Richter scale doesn't tell the whole story, as
there are two factors, acceleration, and velocity. So you can likely
have some sheetrock finishing to do, etc. Glad you came out with no
damage. When I was there taking a seismic course, at the time they
were studying the Hayward fault, and had a place close to Concord that
they'd excavated like slicing through it, so they could study the soil
(liquifaction, etc.) It was interesting.
But I don't know about the Calavaras being more likely to have a major
quake, they call the Hayward a tectonic time bomb, and are stressing
that it could produce a 7+ at any time. As a slip fault, it doesn't
slip much, stores the stresses, then when friction can't hold anymore,
wham.

This thing on Saturday (http://www.exoticeroticball.com/) followed
shortly be a health earthquake.

Any connection?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Care to even try to translate that into English?

Whoops. Change 'health' to 'healthy', i.e. not a weak one!

A decent quake, not a "healthy" quake. Never went to the erotic ball, but
used to have coworkers in the past that never missed it. Seemed like it
would be most interesting viewing, but SWMBO may not approve.

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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:58:57 -0000, wrote:

On Nov 1, 5:12 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:05:36 -0000, wrote:
On Nov 1, 4:46 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:49:48 -0000, wrote:
On Nov 1, 2:17 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:55:05 -0000, wrote:
On Oct 31, 3:55 pm, "Calif Bill"
wrote:
wrote in message

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Did you get jostled around last night?
The in-laws in Pleasant Hill and Concord reported some
pictures
knocked off the wall, etc. nothing major. Heard it was on the
Calavaras fault. Hope that doesn't set up stress in the
Hayward fault.

Yes we shook fairly well. We are about 3 miles from the
Calaveras fault,
but on a rocky hillside., not down in the alluvial plains that
are the
valley floor around here. The Calaveras fault is much more
likely to have a
7+ quake than the Hayward according to a lot of the
seismologists. Friend
is with the USGS and is an earthquake guru and that is what he
reports. My
mom lives very near the Hayward fault as it traverses the
Oakland hills.
But her house was bolted to the foundation when it was build in
1908.
Amazes some people that they figured that out back then.
Thanks for asking.
We had no damage, and only the chandelier rattled for about 5
minutes.

The in-laws in Pleasant Hill aren't on the valley floor, but are
fairly low, the underlying soil structure is chert and weathered
rock,
they barely felt it. One thing that people don't understand is
that
with even a moderate quake, you can very likely have some sort of
structure damage. The Richter scale doesn't tell the whole story,
as
there are two factors, acceleration, and velocity. So you can
likely
have some sheetrock finishing to do, etc. Glad you came out with
no
damage. When I was there taking a seismic course, at the time
they
were studying the Hayward fault, and had a place close to Concord
that
they'd excavated like slicing through it, so they could study the
soil
(liquifaction, etc.) It was interesting.
But I don't know about the Calavaras being more likely to have a
major
quake, they call the Hayward a tectonic time bomb, and are
stressing
that it could produce a 7+ at any time. As a slip fault, it
doesn't
slip much, stores the stresses, then when friction can't hold
anymore,
wham.

This thing on Saturday (http://www.exoticeroticball.com/) followed
shortly be a health earthquake.

Any connection?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Care to even try to translate that into English?

Whoops. Change 'health' to 'healthy', i.e. not a weak one!- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

and change be to by.........NOW the coins drop!

Damn, I must be getting older. I shot a 105 on a golf course today.
That's
totally messed up my head.

Plus, my new boat has arrived. Now I have to decide what to do with it.
I'm
considering doing nothing with it, not even starting it, and just
putting
it in indoor storage until March or so. That'll run me about $150 per
month. Any ideas?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd just have to take it out for a few rides before winter. There is
absolutely no way I could get a brand new boat and not try it out!

I was hoping the factory would delay delivery for about four months. I'd
like to take it out, but then I'd have to go through the 'winterizing'
hassle. This way, the boat will undergo it's first check ride, with the
dealer, in March. He got a three year extended warranty on the engine, so
the three or four month won't make much difference.

I had thought of shrink wrapping it, or just parking it in front of the
house. The shrink wrap would cost about $250, whereas the boatel storage
will cost about $600, total.

Not much to winterizing an outboard.

"John H." wrote in message

Plus, my new boat has arrived. Now I have to decide what to do with it.
I'm
considering doing nothing with it, not even starting it, and just
putting
it in indoor storage until March or so. That'll run me about $150 per
month. Any ideas?- Hide quoted text -


I was hoping the factory would delay delivery for about four months. I'd
like to take it out, but then I'd have to go through the 'winterizing'
hassle. This way, the boat will undergo it's first check ride, with the
dealer, in March. He got a three year extended warranty on the engine, so
the three or four month won't make much difference.

I had thought of shrink wrapping it, or just parking it in front of the
house. The shrink wrap would cost about $250, whereas the boatel storage
will cost about $600, total.



You are going to take delivery without a test run, and then store the
boat? I'm not sure that is a good idea. Before it delivers a new boat,
my dealership checks everything out, fills up the engine oil tank, and
then tank tests the motor for an hour to make sure it is running okay
and to partially complete the break-in. I don't think this is unique to
my Yamaha dealer. If yours does this, too, you'll want to at least fog
the engine and put preservative in the fuel tank before you store the boat.

On Nov 1, 9:37 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Oct 31, 3:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

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Did you get jostled around last night?
The in-laws in Pleasant Hill and Concord reported some pictures
knocked off the wall, etc. nothing major. Heard it was on the
Calavaras fault. Hope that doesn't set up stress in the Hayward fault.

Yes we shook fairly well. We are about 3 miles from the Calaveras fault,
but on a rocky hillside., not down in the alluvial plains that are the
valley floor around here. The Calaveras fault is much more likely to
have a
7+ quake than the Hayward according to a lot of the seismologists.
Friend
is with the USGS and is an earthquake guru and that is what he reports.
My
mom lives very near the Hayward fault as it traverses the Oakland hills.
But her house was bolted to the foundation when it was build in 1908.
Amazes some people that they figured that out back then. Thanks for
asking.
We had no damage, and only the chandelier rattled for about 5 minutes.

The in-laws in Pleasant Hill aren't on the valley floor, but are
fairly low, the underlying soil structure is chert and weathered rock,
they barely felt it. One thing that people don't understand is that
with even a moderate quake, you can very likely have some sort of
structure damage. The Richter scale doesn't tell the whole story, as
there are two factors, acceleration, and velocity. So you can likely
have some sheetrock finishing to do, etc. Glad you came out with no
damage. When I was there taking a seismic course, at the time they
were studying the Hayward fault, and had a place close to Concord that
they'd excavated like slicing through it, so they could study the soil
(liquifaction, etc.) It was interesting.
But I don't know about the Calavaras being more likely to have a major
quake, they call the Hayward a tectonic time bomb, and are stressing
that it could produce a 7+ at any time. As a slip fault, it doesn't
slip much, stores the stresses, then when friction can't hold anymore,
wham.

I know about damage. The Loma Prieta quake cracked the swimming pool.
About $5500 damage. Friend with the USGS says lot of his co-scientists
figure the Hayward is just not capable of a 7. Actually it slips a lot.
Why you can see a lot of the creep in the sidewalk and curbs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, it slips, but not "a lot", compared to other faults. Take a look
at the difference between the San Andreas and the Hayward from an
airplane, you'll see what I mean. We took a tour of places along the
hayward, sidewalks, the stadium at Berkeley where it goes right
through it, etc.

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:59:16 -0400, HK wrote:

"John H." wrote in message

Plus, my new boat has arrived. Now I have to decide what to do with it.
I'm
considering doing nothing with it, not even starting it, and just
putting
it in indoor storage until March or so. That'll run me about $150 per
month. Any ideas?- Hide quoted text -


I was hoping the factory would delay delivery for about four months. I'd
like to take it out, but then I'd have to go through the 'winterizing'
hassle. This way, the boat will undergo it's first check ride, with the
dealer, in March. He got a three year extended warranty on the engine, so
the three or four month won't make much difference.

I had thought of shrink wrapping it, or just parking it in front of the
house. The shrink wrap would cost about $250, whereas the boatel storage
will cost about $600, total.



You are going to take delivery without a test run, and then store the
boat? I'm not sure that is a good idea. Before it delivers a new boat,
my dealership checks everything out, fills up the engine oil tank, and
then tank tests the motor for an hour to make sure it is running okay
and to partially complete the break-in. I don't think this is unique to
my Yamaha dealer. If yours does this, too, you'll want to at least fog
the engine and put preservative in the fuel tank before you store the boat.

We will do all this in March.

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On Nov 1, 9:37 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Oct 31, 3:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

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Did you get jostled around last night?
The in-laws in Pleasant Hill and Concord reported some pictures
knocked off the wall, etc. nothing major. Heard it was on the
Calavaras fault. Hope that doesn't set up stress in the Hayward
fault.

Yes we shook fairly well. We are about 3 miles from the Calaveras
fault,
but on a rocky hillside., not down in the alluvial plains that are the
valley floor around here. The Calaveras fault is much more likely to
have a
7+ quake than the Hayward according to a lot of the seismologists.
Friend
is with the USGS and is an earthquake guru and that is what he
reports.
My
mom lives very near the Hayward fault as it traverses the Oakland
hills.
But her house was bolted to the foundation when it was build in 1908.
Amazes some people that they figured that out back then. Thanks for
asking.
We had no damage, and only the chandelier rattled for about 5 minutes.

The in-laws in Pleasant Hill aren't on the valley floor, but are
fairly low, the underlying soil structure is chert and weathered rock,
they barely felt it. One thing that people don't understand is that
with even a moderate quake, you can very likely have some sort of
structure damage. The Richter scale doesn't tell the whole story, as
there are two factors, acceleration, and velocity. So you can likely
have some sheetrock finishing to do, etc. Glad you came out with no
damage. When I was there taking a seismic course, at the time they
were studying the Hayward fault, and had a place close to Concord that
they'd excavated like slicing through it, so they could study the soil
(liquifaction, etc.) It was interesting.
But I don't know about the Calavaras being more likely to have a major
quake, they call the Hayward a tectonic time bomb, and are stressing
that it could produce a 7+ at any time. As a slip fault, it doesn't
slip much, stores the stresses, then when friction can't hold anymore,
wham.

I know about damage. The Loma Prieta quake cracked the swimming pool.
About $5500 damage. Friend with the USGS says lot of his co-scientists
figure the Hayward is just not capable of a 7. Actually it slips a lot.
Why you can see a lot of the creep in the sidewalk and curbs.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, it slips, but not "a lot", compared to other faults. Take a look
at the difference between the San Andreas and the Hayward from an
airplane, you'll see what I mean. We took a tour of places along the
hayward, sidewalks, the stadium at Berkeley where it goes right
through it, etc.


Just repeating what a friend who works for the USGS here and studies and
writes articles on earthquakes and fault lines says his fellow scientists
state about the Hayward fault. Very likely not capable of a 7 quake. But a
5.5 will still cause massive damage. Wife has requested a book from the
local library and was being transferred from the San Jose library. When she
asked why was not here yet, they said the SJ librarly had several thousand
books in piles on the floor.