JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db
VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.

Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use.
Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"





Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick or
two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper amount
of member does a better job handling several open apps simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost instantaneously.
If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these apps are running,
the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as some
start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll build a
new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



My son's laptop has 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm memory and the processor is AMD
Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0GHz/1MB).

I posed the question of the concerns posted here in a computer forum. Here
is one of the responses I received from what I would judge to be one of the
experts in the forum on computers

I had a new desktop built in February loaded with Vista. It's wonderful and
I am delighted with it.
-----------------------------------
Every time MS brings out new software the prophets of doom and gloom come
out of their comfort zone and start whining. The people who condemn Vista
today are the same people who tomorrow will enjoy Vista and will have
forgotten their reluctance to change. It's no different to the same
arguments made when changing from Windows 95 to 98 and then to XP all over
again.

The main protagonists seem to be conservative and frugal home and small
business users who cannot easily afford the hardware required and large
commercial organizations where such a major change would eat into their mega
profits.

Take no notice and enjoy it.
--------------------------------------------------

Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-)




Yeah, obviously. Wayne apparently hasn't bought a new computer since he
retired. BTW, that laptop will run VISTA just fine. Get one of the fat
third party help books, though. The documentation MS includes is
practically non-existent.

JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981


If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also, when
you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want to do
this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for a few
weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981



Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid 1980s
who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could kind of do
things their way instead of his way.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:17 -0400, "Don White"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.


Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.


What's ragging, Don?

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:09:30 -0400, "Don White"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
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HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount
of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow.
It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do
you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.



JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.

I should always read your post before I respond. But then I'd be doing
things out of order and get all confused.

Did you two exchange love notes while you were away.
Mr. Burns may not like that.


How's your mom doing, Don?

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:01:00 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.


Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.


I have come to expect that from Herring. Sad.


Yeah, he's an asshole.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:18:43 -0000,
wrote:


Of course dual boot is still an option but you have to do Vista first.

All kinds of options if you want to play with it. I think there are
virtual managers that can handle 3 or 4 OS's.
My brother does something like that.
But my son has multiple boxes, and software emulators.
If something doesn't want to be emulated, he runs it on the
appropriate box. He has about 6 PC's.
On his 64 bit box he loaded XP 32-bit, XP 64-bit, then Vista 64 bit,
in that order. Different partitions.
When he boots he sees the Vista boot manager, which asks if wants to
load Vista or earlier OS's (XP's)
He also has a 32-bit box with XP and Vista. XP has to be installed
first.
Anyway, he needs Vista to run Halo II. You can't run it without
Vista, as they ported it to Vista only.

--Vic

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:18:19 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:
many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.
And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.
Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?
Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.
I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.
As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.
I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.

Smash it first and fix it second.

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that
it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost
double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its
launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It just
goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.

Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista for my
son.

Microsoft counts you as a purchaser of Vista.

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.

Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.