On Oct 26, 2:42?pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 6:07?am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:06:37 GMT, Ron wrote:
SoCalYachtBroker wrote in
glegroups.com:
The boat re-sale market has changed considerably over the past few
months.
Up here in BC, seeing the opposite, mind you I'm watching
20'bowriders
mostly, not bathtubs with parachutes :-)
As economy perks along at full tilt more and more are buying, and
with
such
a strong canuck dollar american boats looked good but now they are
trying
to gouge canuck buyers. Ads on craiglist and such are $k's higher
than
just a few months ago as they try to take advantage of CAN$.
So what you are telling me is that I should have charged Don more for
my boat than I did?
Damn - now he tells me. :)
I should have got you to hold the boat a couple of months for me. The
way
your yankee dollah is slidin', it would seem like I was getting your
boat
almost free by paying in American cash. I heard today the loonie was
worth
$1.04 US.- Hide quoted text -

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The Canadian dollar may eventually be headed for $1.50 US. The Yankee
buck has been reduced to junk bond status.

No political comment, just a fact:

The last time we had $zero in National debt, Andrew Jackson was
President. Between the presidency of Andrew Jackson and May of the
year 2000, the US national debt rose to $5.7 trillion.

Between May of 2000 and October 2007, the national debt increased from
$5.7 trillion to over $9 trillion. A 50% increase in the last seven
years. Good grief!

A 50% increase over $5.7 trillion would be about $2.8 trillion, for a
total of about $8.5 trillion. This is a bit more.

But.................The National debt as a % of GDP was actually higher
under the Clinton regime. Good grief!

BTW: No political comment......just a fact. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

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You mean we changed presidents somewhere along the way?

Oh, yeah. I guess we did. :-)

"Don White" wrote in
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:06:37 GMT, Ron wrote:

SoCalYachtBroker wrote in
groups.com:

The boat re-sale market has changed considerably over the past few
months.

Up here in BC, seeing the opposite, mind you I'm watching
20'bowriders mostly, not bathtubs with parachutes :-)

As economy perks along at full tilt more and more are buying, and
with such
a strong canuck dollar american boats looked good but now they are
trying to gouge canuck buyers. Ads on craiglist and such are $k's
higher than just a few months ago as they try to take advantage of
CAN$.

So what you are telling me is that I should have charged Don more for
my boat than I did?

Damn - now he tells me. :)

I should have got you to hold the boat a couple of months for me. The
way your yankee dollah is slidin', it would seem like I was getting
your boat almost free by paying in American cash. I heard today the
loonie was worth $1.04 US.

Yep Walmart has 48 departments now,
Washington, Oregon, Cali, Texass, ....:-)
Ron in BC

Chuck Gould wrote in
ups.com:

On Oct 25, 7:06?pm, Ron wrote:
SoCalYachtBroker wrote
roups.com:

The boat re-sale market has changed considerably over the past few
months.

Up here in BC, seeing the opposite, mind you I'm watching
20'bowriders mostly, not bathtubs with parachutes :-)

As economy perks along at full tilt more and more are buying, and
with such a strong canuck dollar american boats looked good but now
they are trying to gouge canuck buyers. Ads on craiglist and such
are $k's higher than just a few months ago as they try to take
advantage of CAN$. Ron

How can the brokers gouge Canadian buyers?

It's illegal in the US to demand more than the advertised price for a
boat. (The buyer is free to offer more than the advertised price, in a
"bidding war", for example).

No way can somebody say, "Yeah, we're advertising the boat for
$90,000- but if somebody from Canada wants to buy it we need $105k"

From the perspective of advertising, the same prices are offered to
all comers. Putting a ridiculously high price on a boat just in case a
Canadian buyer with some supercharged currency happens along doesn't
make much sense......most of the business is *still* going to be
local, and a ridiculously high price will keep the phone from ringing
and the web site will be a ghost town.

Chuck what I am saying is private sellers, not brokers, advertised their
boat back in july or aug and now in oct want more, not less. I don't pay
much attention to brokerage ads. Sellers are targetting canadian buyers by
posting in craiglists for canadian cities.
Ron

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:06:37 GMT, Ron penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

SoCalYachtBroker wrote in
ups.com:

The boat re-sale market has changed considerably over the past few
months.
Up here in BC, seeing the opposite, mind you I'm watching 20'bowriders
mostly, not bathtubs with parachutes :-)

Locally....same here.

I was talking to the owner of the largest local boat dealership. He
said virtually everybody was downsizing to the 18'-20' range and that
consequently he ended up with a glut of larger trade-in boats.

He began getting calls from abroad (not Canada) offering the asking
prices for these boats (bubbles were in high demand).



There seems to be a lot more used boats "for sale" then I recall ever
seeing before. All the marinas around here have boats of all sizes with
"For Sale" signs on the them, and you can't drive down any of the roads
here without seeing all manner of boats up on trailers with "for sale"
signs on them, a lot more than I've ever noticed at the end of previous
seasons.

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:06:37 GMT, Ron penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

SoCalYachtBroker wrote in
ups.com:

The boat re-sale market has changed considerably over the past few
months.
Up here in BC, seeing the opposite, mind you I'm watching 20'bowriders
mostly, not bathtubs with parachutes :-)
Locally....same here.

I was talking to the owner of the largest local boat dealership. He
said virtually everybody was downsizing to the 18'-20' range and that
consequently he ended up with a glut of larger trade-in boats.

He began getting calls from abroad (not Canada) offering the asking
prices for these boats (bubbles were in high demand).

There seems to be a lot more used boats "for sale" then I recall ever
seeing before. All the marinas around here have boats of all sizes with
"For Sale" signs on the them, and you can't drive down any of the roads
here without seeing all manner of boats up on trailers with "for sale"
signs on them, a lot more than I've ever noticed at the end of previous
seasons.


Are their trailers sitting up on blocks? ;-)



Every day, the sellers pull them up to the end of the drive, jack up the
trailers, and put the blocks under the frames! Makes it a lot easier to
steal the wheels and tires.

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:04:03 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

He began getting calls from abroad (not Canada) offering the asking
prices for these boats (bubbles were in high demand).

Sheesh, if we could find a good market for bubbas we could all be
rich. I know where there's a lot of them.

:-)

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 26, 2:42?pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 6:07?am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:86h3i3h5p8bobv76420b5igv1phr0sdsi3@4ax .com...

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:06:37 GMT, Ron wrote:
SoCalYachtBroker wrote in
glegroups.com:
The boat re-sale market has changed considerably over the past
few
months.
Up here in BC, seeing the opposite, mind you I'm watching
20'bowriders
mostly, not bathtubs with parachutes :-)
As economy perks along at full tilt more and more are buying, and
with
such
a strong canuck dollar american boats looked good but now they are
trying
to gouge canuck buyers. Ads on craiglist and such are $k's higher
than
just a few months ago as they try to take advantage of CAN$.
So what you are telling me is that I should have charged Don more
for
my boat than I did?
Damn - now he tells me. :)
I should have got you to hold the boat a couple of months for me.
The
way
your yankee dollah is slidin', it would seem like I was getting
your
boat
almost free by paying in American cash. I heard today the loonie was
worth
$1.04 US.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
The Canadian dollar may eventually be headed for $1.50 US. The Yankee
buck has been reduced to junk bond status.

No political comment, just a fact:

The last time we had $zero in National debt, Andrew Jackson was
President. Between the presidency of Andrew Jackson and May of the
year 2000, the US national debt rose to $5.7 trillion.

Between May of 2000 and October 2007, the national debt increased
from
$5.7 trillion to over $9 trillion. A 50% increase in the last seven
years. Good grief!

A 50% increase over $5.7 trillion would be about $2.8 trillion, for a
total of about $8.5 trillion. This is a bit more.

But.................The National debt as a % of GDP was actually higher
under the Clinton regime. Good grief!

BTW: No political comment......just a fact. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You mean we changed presidents somewhere along the way?

Oh, yeah. I guess we did. :-)


And who requires spending of money? Which branch of government? Since when
does the Executive branch initiate and pass spending bills? Why do we keep
re-electing the spendthrifts in Congress?

The Dems would rather sit around and get their dicks sucked,
rather than get work done...which, BTW...takes $$....





" The Clinton *regime* is not a political comment, BS.
Look at the graph, notice the National Debt. goes up
under recent Republicans, and down, under Democrats."






On Oct 26, 4:00 pm, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:42:48 -0400, JimH wrote:
But.................The National debt as a % of GDP was actually higher
under the Clinton regime. Good grief!

BTW: No political comment......just a fact. ;-)

The Clinton *regime* is not a political comment, BS. Look at the graph, notice the National
Debt. goes up under recent Republicans, and down, under Democrats.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP-L.gif

Gerald Ford was disturbed by Bill Clinton's skirt-chasing ways - and
thought he should check into a sex addiction clinic.

A new book on the late 38th President reveals he had strong views
about the Clintons: He thought Hillary wore the pants and that Bill
couldn't keep his zipped.

"He's sick - he's got an addiction. He needs treatment," Ford told
Daily News Washington Bureau Chief Thomas M. DeFrank, author of "Write
It When I'm Gone: Remarkable Off-the-Record Conversations with Gerald
R. Ford."

Ford's wife, Betty, who founded a pioneering treatment center after
her battle with alcoholism and drugs, agreed.

"You know, there's treatment for that kind of addiction," she told
DeFrank during the same conversation in 1999. "A lot of men have gone
through the treatment with a lot of success. But he won't do it,
because he's in denial."

The Fords first got to know the Clintons in the summer of 1993, when
they invited the new First Family to their home in Colorado.

Gerald Ford's impressions of the Oval Office's latest tenant were
mixed. He believed Clinton was charismatic, articulate, a "helluva
salesman" and the best politician he'd ever seen - even better than
John F. Kennedy.









On Oct 28, 10:16 am, ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
The Dems would rather sit around and get their dicks sucked,
rather than get work done...which, BTW...takes $$....

" The Clinton *regime* is not a political comment, BS.
Look at the graph, notice the National Debt. goes up
under recent Republicans, and down, under Democrats."

On Oct 26, 4:00 pm, thunder wrote:



On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:42:48 -0400, JimH wrote:
But.................The National debt as a % of GDP was actually higher
under the Clinton regime. Good grief!

BTW: No political comment......just a fact. ;-)

The Clinton *regime* is not a political comment, BS. Look at the graph, notice the National
Debt. goes up under recent Republicans, and down, under Democrats.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP-L.gif- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -