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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.


After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high 20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design, building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

In addition to LCD glass (their primary business) and fiberoptics, Corning
is the primary supplier of the catalytic material now required in the newer
diesel powered trucks. I think I recall reading that by 2012 it will also
be required in diesel powered boat applications. (Boating content :-) )

Eisboch

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high 20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design, building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

In addition to LCD glass (their primary business) and fiberoptics, Corning
is the primary supplier of the catalytic material now required in the newer
diesel powered trucks. I think I recall reading that by 2012 it will also
be required in diesel powered boat applications. (Boating content :-) )

Eisboch

Wow, that's a lot of heat to disperse from the boat, assuming the
converter will be inside the hull, which would probably be the case....

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high 20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design, building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated
the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

In addition to LCD glass (their primary business) and fiberoptics,
Corning
is the primary supplier of the catalytic material now required in the
newer
diesel powered trucks. I think I recall reading that by 2012 it will
also
be required in diesel powered boat applications. (Boating content
-) )

Eisboch

Wow, that's a lot of heat to disperse from the boat, assuming the
converter will be inside the hull, which would probably be the case....


Maybe they'll have vertical stacks, ala semi tractors, with cut outs.

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak
product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high
20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design,
building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated
the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

In addition to LCD glass (their primary business) and fiberoptics,
Corning
is the primary supplier of the catalytic material now required in the
newer
diesel powered trucks. I think I recall reading that by 2012 it will
also
be required in diesel powered boat applications. (Boating content
-) )

Eisboch

Wow, that's a lot of heat to disperse from the boat, assuming the
converter will be inside the hull, which would probably be the case....


Good point, although there's already quite a bit of heat generated by a pair
of big diesels running anyway. The heat generated by the converters will
obviously have to be carried away through a water cooled jacket or
something.

Have you read about the new diesel powered pickups? They go through a
exhaust particulate filter regeneration process every once in a while. When
they first came out, some Ford pickups were exhausting flames that started a
couple of grass fires.

Eisboch

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak
product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high
20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design,
building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated
the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

In addition to LCD glass (their primary business) and fiberoptics,
Corning
is the primary supplier of the catalytic material now required in the
newer
diesel powered trucks. I think I recall reading that by 2012 it will
also
be required in diesel powered boat applications. (Boating content
-) )

Eisboch

Wow, that's a lot of heat to disperse from the boat, assuming the
converter will be inside the hull, which would probably be the case....

Good point, although there's already quite a bit of heat generated by a pair
of big diesels running anyway. The heat generated by the converters will
obviously have to be carried away through a water cooled jacket or
something.

Have you read about the new diesel powered pickups? They go through a
exhaust particulate filter regeneration process every once in a while. When
they first came out, some Ford pickups were exhausting flames that started a
couple of grass fires.

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Read an interesting article not long ago about trying to reclaim the
heat energy. A good amount of the potential energy of gasoline or
diesel fuel is wasted as heat.

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak
product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high
20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design,
building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated
the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

In addition to LCD glass (their primary business) and fiberoptics,
Corning
is the primary supplier of the catalytic material now required in the
newer
diesel powered trucks. I think I recall reading that by 2012 it will
also
be required in diesel powered boat applications. (Boating content
-) )

Eisboch

Wow, that's a lot of heat to disperse from the boat, assuming the
converter will be inside the hull, which would probably be the case....

Good point, although there's already quite a bit of heat generated by a pair
of big diesels running anyway. The heat generated by the converters will
obviously have to be carried away through a water cooled jacket or
something.


Man, that's gonna' be a lot of engineering, really a whole new system
will probably be developed. I don't think you would want to run tubing
from the engine cooling system through the hull to the cat, or add to
the existing load on it. Now you are talking space and resources for a
new cooling system and cat, remembering that a breakdown in a cat
cooling system could be disasterous if unnoticed.. It is going to be
huge, hull design and fit may have to be completely rethunk. Oh well,
think outboard... Sorry to ramble, just thinking out loud...

Have you read about the new diesel powered pickups? They go through a
exhaust particulate filter regeneration process every once in a while. When
they first came out, some Ford pickups were exhausting flames that started a
couple of grass fires.

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Good point, although there's already quite a bit of heat generated by a
pair
of big diesels running anyway. The heat generated by the converters
will
obviously have to be carried away through a water cooled jacket or
something.



Man, that's gonna' be a lot of engineering, really a whole new system
will probably be developed. I don't think you would want to run tubing
from the engine cooling system through the hull to the cat, or add to
the existing load on it. Now you are talking space and resources for a
new cooling system and cat, remembering that a breakdown in a cat
cooling system could be disasterous if unnoticed.. It is going to be
huge, hull design and fit may have to be completely rethunk. Oh well,
think outboard... Sorry to ramble, just thinking out loud...


I don't see the big problem. First of all, you aren't "cooling" the
converter (or particulate filter (as it is called in the diesel). All you
are doing is carrying away the excess heat generated by the exhaust gases
and reaction process. A secondary raw water pump or even a dual output raw
water pump (main to engine heat exchanger, secondary to cat water jacket)
with both exhausting through the current, water cooled exhaust would do it I
think.

Eisboch

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high 20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design, building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

Corning works closely with Alfred University's (SUNY) College of
Ceramics. I remember hearing about the College of Ceramics as a kid,
and thinking, what to hell could somebody learn about ceramics that
would take four years??!!

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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak
product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high
20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design,
building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated
the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

Corning works closely with Alfred University's (SUNY) College of
Ceramics. I remember hearing about the College of Ceramics as a kid,
and thinking, what to hell could somebody learn about ceramics that
would take four years??!!


Sorta like being a ball bearing engineer.

Seriously, ceramic materials are not all alike and there are some
unbelievable high-tech applications, now and being developed for the future.

Eisboch

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On Oct 19, 9:38 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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Seems as though Corning has always been an up and down kind of
business.

After the telecom fiasco, Corning downsized, got rid of some weak
product
lines and focused back on their core business. The stock has slowly
recovered from a low of about 2 bucks a share up to the mid to high
20's.

Many years ago Corning developed the ceramic "rice" used in catalytic
converters for gas powered cars. I was involved in the design,
building,
test and installation of several sputter deposition systems that coated
the
"rice" with the catalytic material.

Corning works closely with Alfred University's (SUNY) College of
Ceramics. I remember hearing about the College of Ceramics as a kid,
and thinking, what to hell could somebody learn about ceramics that
would take four years??!!

Sorta like being a ball bearing engineer.

Seriously, ceramic materials are not all alike and there are some
unbelievable high-tech applications, now and being developed for the future.

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Yeah, I understand that now, but as a kid, all I could think of is
kiln dried cups!