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[email protected] October 22nd 07 03:18 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
On Oct 22, 8:51 am, wrote:
On Oct 21, 8:19 pm, wrote:





On Oct 21, 10:33 am, wrote:


On Oct 20, 1:21 pm, wrote:


On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, wrote:


On Oct 20, 9:22 am, wrote:


On Oct 20, 9:03 am, Tim wrote:


This DOES look bad!


http://news.aol.com/story/_a/officia...s-in-atlanta/2...


Ok, I have only been watching what I see on the news but is the corps
still blowing water out the dams for no apparant reason (as they have
suggested in some reports)?


Yes, they are.


And as this lake gets smaller, and the


story and visuals get bigger, does it serve to help the Global taxing
crowd prove their points?


Jeez, talking about black helicopters! Do you think that liberals
somehow conjured up the drought to be able to prove that global
warming exists?
Who exactly is this "Global taxing crowd" you speak of?


No, and I probably said this wrong. What I really meant is from what I
know and have seen, (I have lived down there too) the corps never seem
to have any accountability, just do what they see fit, kinda' like the
FED. And I did not mean the corps had golbal taxing in mind but I am
wondering if the corps actions will give the GT crowd more ammo, and
if so if it would be a legit arguement...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The Corp can do nothing except what is in some manual, etc. That is
why they are refusing to use any good sense in this issue. There is a
court ordered amount of water that they must release, and that is just
what they will do, unless we can stop them somehow, until the last
drop flows out. I'm wondering, because they are unable to use ANY
judgement of their own accord, what they'll do to keep water flowing
out of the dam after the lake has dried up!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Ok, the guy (I saw on the news) was probably being somewhat sarcastic
but he said it was about saving some muscles and fish down river.
Sounds like some green group got a law passed at one point that could
really backfire, do I got this right?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


There are several reasons for the corp being forced by law to release
a given amount of water. One is some fresh water mussel in FL. And no,
it wasn't some "green group". There are downstream generating plants,
downstream places that use the water for drinking, etc.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The pictures are incredible, I do feel for you guys. Any figures on
how many acres the lake has "lost" or ground gained as it were?


Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 07 11:35 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels
are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.

Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.

What's the impact on boating?


Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too....
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html


Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our
water, that is for sure. ;)


[email protected] October 23rd 07 02:00 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels
are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.


Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.


What's the impact on boating?


Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too....
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html


Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our
water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will
take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They
know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the
problems.


[email protected] October 23rd 07 02:01 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
On Oct 19, 8:53 pm, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:
wrote:

Who ever told you that it's in that order?? The power generated at
Lake Lanier, which in your order is #2, is very little, and alot of
times, none. Under normal rain conditions, when downstream waters get
replenished by the rain, instead of relying on Lanier, they don't even
release water, so no production. As to Harry's comment that first and
foremost it's a reservior, that is correct. It's where water is
collected and stored. And yes, flood control is part of the reason for
the lake, but not necessarily the top reason. As a side note, Lanier
wouldn't be in such bad shape if, during this continuing drought, a
big mistake had not been made. The Army Corp installed a new lake
gauge in winter of '05 and it wasn't calibrated correctly, and they
dumped 20 some billion gallons into the Hooch.


While that might be true, what do you know about concrete?


More than you, and that is true about a lot more than concrete.


[email protected] October 23rd 07 02:05 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
On Oct 22, 10:18 am, wrote:
On Oct 22, 8:51 am, wrote:





On Oct 21, 8:19 pm, wrote:


On Oct 21, 10:33 am, wrote:


On Oct 20, 1:21 pm, wrote:


On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, wrote:


On Oct 20, 9:22 am, wrote:


On Oct 20, 9:03 am, Tim wrote:


This DOES look bad!


http://news.aol.com/story/_a/officia...s-in-atlanta/2...


Ok, I have only been watching what I see on the news but is the corps
still blowing water out the dams for no apparant reason (as they have
suggested in some reports)?


Yes, they are.


And as this lake gets smaller, and the


story and visuals get bigger, does it serve to help the Global taxing
crowd prove their points?


Jeez, talking about black helicopters! Do you think that liberals
somehow conjured up the drought to be able to prove that global
warming exists?
Who exactly is this "Global taxing crowd" you speak of?


No, and I probably said this wrong. What I really meant is from what I
know and have seen, (I have lived down there too) the corps never seem
to have any accountability, just do what they see fit, kinda' like the
FED. And I did not mean the corps had golbal taxing in mind but I am
wondering if the corps actions will give the GT crowd more ammo, and
if so if it would be a legit arguement...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The Corp can do nothing except what is in some manual, etc. That is
why they are refusing to use any good sense in this issue. There is a
court ordered amount of water that they must release, and that is just
what they will do, unless we can stop them somehow, until the last
drop flows out. I'm wondering, because they are unable to use ANY
judgement of their own accord, what they'll do to keep water flowing
out of the dam after the lake has dried up!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Ok, the guy (I saw on the news) was probably being somewhat sarcastic
but he said it was about saving some muscles and fish down river.
Sounds like some green group got a law passed at one point that could
really backfire, do I got this right?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


There are several reasons for the corp being forced by law to release
a given amount of water. One is some fresh water mussel in FL. And no,
it wasn't some "green group". There are downstream generating plants,
downstream places that use the water for drinking, etc.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The pictures are incredible, I do feel for you guys. Any figures on
how many acres the lake has "lost" or ground gained as it were?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I've not seen any. Hell, the way the corp is still running water out
of it, it'd change daily! The last news I've heard (this morning) is
that the corp needs six weeks to review their release practices! Now,
we'll still have water, but what happens is that if we pump below the
"conservation level", that with what we take out of Lanier, it will
never catch up with normal weather. We'd need a good tropical storm or
three to help!


Tim October 23rd 07 11:51 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
We've been geting tremendous amounts of rain here, all last night up
until about 4:30 pm today it's been a good soaker. and healthy chances
every day for the rest of the week.

i don't think it will help Lanier and Altoona much but I hope some
people down south get some benefit from it.



Tim October 24th 07 12:20 AM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
Chuck, this is up in your neck of the woods (no pun intended)


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071023/...shing_glaciers


[email protected] October 24th 07 02:27 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
On Oct 23, 6:51 pm, Tim wrote:
We've been geting tremendous amounts of rain here, all last night up
until about 4:30 pm today it's been a good soaker. and healthy chances
every day for the rest of the week.

i don't think it will help Lanier and Altoona much but I hope some
people down south get some benefit from it.


Rained an inch or so at my house last night, more (but very little)
coming today. Long range forcast is for a drier than normal winter,
because it's a la Nina year.


Tim October 24th 07 05:10 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 

wrote:
On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels
are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.


Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.


What's the impact on boating?


Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too....
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html


Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our
water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will
take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They
know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the
problems.


I just barely caught a piece of the news (enough to be dangerous) that
the Alabama Gov. is hacked off at the Geo. Gov, about not getting
enough water to cool a nuclear power plant? and is wanting more?

or something like that.


Gene Kearns October 24th 07 05:48 PM

Lake Lanier drying up?
 
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:00:40 -0000, penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Oct 22, 6:35 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
| Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:14:20 -0400, HK penned the following well
| considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels
| are way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
| a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.
|
| Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
| shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.
|
| What's the impact on boating?
|
| Looks like it is getting tough on the Great Lakes, too....
|
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/ny.../22oswego.html
|
| Well, I am not going to let them come down to Lake Lanier and use our
| water, that is for sure. ;)- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|Now THAT'S funny! News report this morning says that the Corp will
|take 6 weeks to review the release of water from Lanier! WTF? They
|know damned well how much water they release, and how to fix the
|problems.

Seems to me that GA, as first steward in a serial path, is responsible
for controlling the amount of demand on a finite supply. They have
allowed expansion beyond what nature is willing to provide, on an
ongoing basis. They need to stop whining and address the *real*
problem..... allowing overpopulation in sensitive areas.

This is just as stoopid as building on the shoreline and wanting
somebody to buy you out of trouble when a hurricane makes your
dwelling disappear.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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