On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.



Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...

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On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.



Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...




Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.

Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.

On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.

Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...

Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.

Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.

My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.

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On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.
Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...
Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.

Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.

My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.



Ahh, lowest common denominator...the Bush clowns.

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.
Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...
Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.

Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.

My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.



Ahh, lowest common denominator...the Bush clowns.

Harry,
Why are you embarrassed to discuss boating topics and you must resort to
these old tactics of cut and paste political trolls?

On Oct 11, 11:07 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.
Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...
Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.

Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.

My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.

Ahh, lowest common denominator...the Bush clowns.- Hide quoted text -

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Even you can't defend unions. Bush has nothing to do with it.

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On Oct 11, 11:07 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.
Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...
Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.
Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.
My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.
Ahh, lowest common denominator...the Bush clowns.- Hide quoted text -

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Even you can't defend unions. Bush has nothing to do with it.



Sure I can. And yes he does.

On Oct 11, 11:02 am, wrote:
.. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.


Specialized training
Mandatory drug testing
Safety training
Turnover problems
And on and on......

On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce.

And this is just bull****. More than likely, just the opposite. Unions
protect those who could not compete in a free market society. Please
Harry, show me some statistics or research that backs up this
statement. Or, just put me in the bozo bin again

On Oct 11, 7:44?am, wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:

especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.

Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...

One batch of *******s steals for one group of special interests, and
the other batch of *******s steals for the other.

Industries haven't been "driven over the borders", they have moved to
where socialist economies, substandard "standards" of living, and very
little expectation of property ownership or wealth accumulation among
the working class provide unlimited numbers of people willing to work
for
$50-$100 US per week.

I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep
in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of
simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same
$50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come
back in a heartbeat.

But we can't simply blame the industrialists. (On topic, here..).
Certain products wouldn't even exist if they had to be built in the
US. Sure, when WalMart dictates to an appliance company that it will
only pay $6 for a waffle iron (but will buy a million of them a year)
a lot of companies are forced to move offshore to compete. That $6
wholesale allows Walmart to sell that waffle iron for $19.99 and come
out OK.
If Walmart would pay $10 for the same waffle iron, consumers might
have to pay $25, but there would be a waffle iron factory in Chicago
rather than in Shanghai..... but that's waffle irons, and not what I'm
referring to.

When it comes to boats it's not so simple. Even manufacturing in China
results in 7-figure price tages on 55-60 foot boats. Having $1-million
puts you somewhere near upper-middle class these days, (70,000
families in my home county are reputed to have $1 million or more in
net financial assets *excluding* equity in a home), but still there
are a limited number of people who have the means and will so
prioritize their spending to sink $1,2, or 3 million into a boat.
Manufacturing some of the larger yacts in the US, even in a "right to
work (for less)" environment would probably double the pricing on many
large yachts.

Case in point: Recently compared two very nice boats. One built in the
US selling for just under $900,000 and one bult in China selling for
just over $1mm. The US boat is a 42-footer, the boat built in China is
59 feet.