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US eyes boom in nuclear reactors
By Laura Smith-Spark
BBC News, Washington

Almost three decades have passed since the last application was filed to
build a new nuclear reactor in the US. Now, up to 30 are expected in the
next three years.

As time has passed, memories have faded of the 1979 radioactive leak at
the Three Mile Island nuclear plant in Pennsylvania that threw the US
nuclear industry into disarray.

Meanwhile, energy security concerns and worries about climate change
have reshaped the debate, and financial incentives and a new licensing
process have altered the economics.

The first full application for two new reactors, in southern Texas, was
submitted at the end of September.

Another four are due by the end of the year and a dozen in 2008, many in
south-eastern states, the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) said.

The earliest could be in operation by 2015.

A range of factors is fuelling the renewed enthusiasm:

* The introduction of a new fast-track combined construction and
operation permit, making new reactors easier and cheaper to build
* A tax credit, introduced in the 2005 Energy Policy Act, of 1.8
cents per kilowatt hour for the first 6,000 megawatts generated by
nuclear plants
* Risk insurance adding up to $2bn for the first six plants to be
built, protecting companies against the cost of delays in construction
* Multi-billion-dollar loan guarantees
* A likelihood that the cost of emitting CO2 will rise as the
battle against climate change intensifies

But the impending flood of applications is fuelling a new row over
whether nuclear power represents a bold step to address 21st Century
needs or a mistaken return to flawed 20th Century technology.

'Reliable source'

Supporters say new reactors are the only way to meet a projected 40%
increase in US electricity demand by 2030 - a result of the country's
growing population.


"Our country needs the electricity and it needs clean sources of
electricity that are reliable - and that's exactly what nuclear energy
is," says Steve Kerekes, spokesman for industry group the Nuclear Energy
Institute (NEI).

Thanks to improvements in efficiency, 104 reactors across 31 states
already produce 20% of the nation's total electricity supply, he points out.

The NEI also argues that nuclear power is cleaner than gas and
coal-fired plants and says studies show that over a nuclear plant's
life-cycle - including construction and the mining of uranium ore - its
greenhouse gas emissions are comparable to those of wind and hydro power.

"We wouldn't pretend for a second that we should be 100% of our energy
supply going forward - but there is a role for us to play in a
diversified energy supply that includes renewables, coal and nuclear,"
says Mr Kerekes.

'Massive subsidies'

However, others dispute this.

This is a renaissance that is only proposed because of massive - you
could say unprecedented - federal subsidies
Tyson Slocum, Public Citizen
"It is absolutely not a clean energy source," says Tyson Slocum,
director of energy policy for public interest group Public Citizen.

"Does it produce less greenhouse gas emissions than coal or gas? Yes.

"But it produces waste potentially more problematic not only from the
mining aspect but from the high-level radioactive waste that a
commercial nuclear reactor is going to produce."

Mr Slocum says the industry's apparent renaissance is due very largely
to "massive - you could say unprecedented - federal subsidies".

"If you had a programme like this for wind and solar, wind and solar
would be the biggest energy sources in the next 20 years," he said.

Security risk?

The question of how nuclear waste is stored is already a controversial
issue in the US.

A planned national repository for spent fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada
has run into sustained opposition from some local lawmakers, including
Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The government is due to submit an application to the NRC to start
construction at the site by 30 June next year. But while it is scheduled
to open before 2020, it could still be delayed or blocked altogether.

In the meantime, nuclear waste will continue to be stored on site at
power plants.

Critics argue that this inevitably increases the risk that plants will
become a terror target, despite steps to give nuclear facilities extra
protection after 9/11.

Local fight

Public reaction to the planned expansion in reactors has so far been
fairly muted.

Opponents say that is because the nuclear lobby has exploited concerns
over climate change.

But the NEI points to evidence that people living near existing plants
are more strongly in favour of nuclear power than the general public.

At least one proposal has sparked local opposition, however.

This is a bid by US energy firm Constellation, in partnership with
France's EDF, to build a new reactor at Calvert Cliffs in Maryland - the
companies filed a partial application in July and are due to file the
rest of the paperwork early next year.

In June, Green Party activist Steve Warner founded the Chesapeake Safe
Energy Coalition to fight the plan, bringing together local people,
environmental and public interest groups.

We would really like to see other forms of energy investigated
Steve Warner
Maryland campaigner
He argues the addition of a new reactor, generating as much power as the
two already at Calvert Cliffs, will push combined radioactive emissions
above safe levels.

Of particular concern to the campaigners is whether the reactor could
have an impact on the marine wildlife in the Chesapeake Bay, known for
its blue crabs.

The project has been backed by the Calvert County authorities because it
promises to create 700 jobs, but the coalition hopes to persuade the
state legislature to oppose it.

"The main focus is to not build any more reactors until we resolve the
waste issues and get some reasonable assurance of how they monitor the
emissions," Mr Warner said.

"We would really like to see other forms of energy investigated."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/h...as/7027147.stm



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The existing facility at Calvert Cliffs is very well run. I live near
it, and have no objection to proper construction and operation of some
additional reactors, especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.

The waste fuel rod problem is easy to resolve...load the stuff up in
drone airplanes and drop it onto red states. The radiation surely will
improve the gene pool.
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On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.



Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...

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On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
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On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.


Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...


Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.

Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.


My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.

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On Oct 11, 11:07 am, HK wrote:
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On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:
especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.
Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...
Please. The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce. You need years
of specialized training for that kind of work.


Just because you don't have the skills necessary for high-end work
doesn't mean you have to take potshots at those who do.


My friend was an inspector/engineer at Haddam Neck... I know a lot
more than you would think. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.


Ahh, lowest common denominator...the Bush clowns.- Hide quoted text -

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Even you can't defend unions. Bush has nothing to do with it.

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On Oct 11, 11:02 am, wrote:
.. I am not sure I want an organizaton that
serves to protect the lowest common denominator from getting fired for
not doing their job, building a nuke plant.



Specialized training
Mandatory drug testing
Safety training
Turnover problems
And on and on......



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On Oct 11, 10:58 am, HK wrote:
The skills required by the steamfitters who build nuke plants
are not easily found among the non-unionized workforce.


And this is just bull****. More than likely, just the opposite. Unions
protect those who could not compete in a free market society. Please
Harry, show me some statistics or research that backs up this
statement. Or, just put me in the bozo bin again

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On Oct 11, 7:44?am, wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:

especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.


Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...


One batch of *******s steals for one group of special interests, and
the other batch of *******s steals for the other.

Industries haven't been "driven over the borders", they have moved to
where socialist economies, substandard "standards" of living, and very
little expectation of property ownership or wealth accumulation among
the working class provide unlimited numbers of people willing to work
for
$50-$100 US per week.

I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep
in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of
simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same
$50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come
back in a heartbeat.

But we can't simply blame the industrialists. (On topic, here..).
Certain products wouldn't even exist if they had to be built in the
US. Sure, when WalMart dictates to an appliance company that it will
only pay $6 for a waffle iron (but will buy a million of them a year)
a lot of companies are forced to move offshore to compete. That $6
wholesale allows Walmart to sell that waffle iron for $19.99 and come
out OK.
If Walmart would pay $10 for the same waffle iron, consumers might
have to pay $25, but there would be a waffle iron factory in Chicago
rather than in Shanghai..... but that's waffle irons, and not what I'm
referring to.

When it comes to boats it's not so simple. Even manufacturing in China
results in 7-figure price tages on 55-60 foot boats. Having $1-million
puts you somewhere near upper-middle class these days, (70,000
families in my home county are reputed to have $1 million or more in
net financial assets *excluding* equity in a home), but still there
are a limited number of people who have the means and will so
prioritize their spending to sink $1,2, or 3 million into a boat.
Manufacturing some of the larger yacts in the US, even in a "right to
work (for less)" environment would probably double the pricing on many
large yachts.

Case in point: Recently compared two very nice boats. One built in the
US selling for just under $900,000 and one bult in China selling for
just over $1mm. The US boat is a 42-footer, the boat built in China is
59 feet.




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