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On Oct 11, 12:59 pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another substancless name caller. Can you explain to me how the redistribution of wealth programs Hillary is pandering with lately, are not socialist?? Or, you could just call me some names;) |
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:39:57 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: On Oct 11, 7:44?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote: especially since the jobs created will be union jobs. Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other industries who have been driven over the borders, and into bankruptcy... One batch of *******s steals for one group of special interests, and the other batch of *******s steals for the other. Industries haven't been "driven over the borders", they have moved to where socialist economies, substandard "standards" of living, and very little expectation of property ownership or wealth accumulation among the working class provide unlimited numbers of people willing to work for $50-$100 US per week. I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. But we can't simply blame the industrialists. (On topic, here..). Certain products wouldn't even exist if they had to be built in the US. Sure, when WalMart dictates to an appliance company that it will only pay $6 for a waffle iron (but will buy a million of them a year) a lot of companies are forced to move offshore to compete. That $6 wholesale allows Walmart to sell that waffle iron for $19.99 and come out OK. If Walmart would pay $10 for the same waffle iron, consumers might have to pay $25, but there would be a waffle iron factory in Chicago rather than in Shanghai..... but that's waffle irons, and not what I'm referring to. When it comes to boats it's not so simple. Even manufacturing in China results in 7-figure price tages on 55-60 foot boats. Having $1-million puts you somewhere near upper-middle class these days, (70,000 families in my home county are reputed to have $1 million or more in net financial assets *excluding* equity in a home), but still there are a limited number of people who have the means and will so prioritize their spending to sink $1,2, or 3 million into a boat. Manufacturing some of the larger yacts in the US, even in a "right to work (for less)" environment would probably double the pricing on many large yachts. Case in point: Recently compared two very nice boats. One built in the US selling for just under $900,000 and one bult in China selling for just over $1mm. The US boat is a 42-footer, the boat built in China is 59 feet. Hey Chuck! Just think, when the socialists get our economy to their liking, our cardboard boxes may be a little bigger, and we may be making $100-$150 a week. But, we'll sure be proud of our redistributed wealth. Of course the wealthy politicos (socialists, of course), will be living high on the hog. (That's where the tenderloin is, high on the hog.) Then, only the bosses will be able to afford a (on topic again) boat, whether made in China or the USA. Was the quality of construction the same on both of those boats? |
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More Nukes on the Bay?
On Oct 11, 1:04 pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 12:59 pm, wrote: On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another substancless name caller. Can you explain to me how the redistribution of wealth programs Hillary is pandering with lately, are not socialist?? Or, you could just call me some names;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - crickets ;) |
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On Oct 11, 10:13?am, "JimH" ask wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist". Hamm. Now what is that old saying again? Oh yes........If it looks like a duck................- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It goes, "If you think it looks like a duck, better be sure you know what a duck actually looks like. Otherwise, you might be a quack." Exhibit A: http://www.themilitant.com/index.shtml (the duck) Speaking of ducks- do they winter over on your section of Lake Erie or does it get so cold that they all migrate elsewhere? We have some ducks that spend the entire winter in this area, but others varieties seem to fly through on their way north or south in the spring and fall. I often marvel at how unpertubed our local ducks can be when a boat is approaching. They seem to swim or dive non-chalantly out of the way, regardless of the vessel's speed. I've never seen a duck, seagull, or any other bird get clobbered on the water. |
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On Oct 11, 1:41 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:13?am, "JimH" ask wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist". Hamm. Now what is that old saying again? Oh yes........If it looks like a duck................- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It goes, "If you think it looks like a duck, better be sure you know what a duck actually looks like. Otherwise, you might be a quack." Exhibit A: http://www.themilitant.com/index.shtml (the duck) Speaking of ducks- do they winter over on your section of Lake Erie or does it get so cold that they all migrate elsewhere? We have some ducks that spend the entire winter in this area, but others varieties seem to fly through on their way north or south in the spring and fall. I often marvel at how unpertubed our local ducks can be when a boat is approaching. They seem to swim or dive non-chalantly out of the way, regardless of the vessel's speed. I've never seen a duck, seagull, or any other bird get clobbered on the water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So, you don't think Hillary, Pelosi, are socialists? And that Clinton/Soros website does not represent Socialists. I have in my family high ranking officials in the Socialist party before the two party system took control. They were the party of the working man back then, patriotic Americans. Not "militants", and self loathing phonys.. |
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On Oct 11, 2:12 pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:41 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 10:13?am, "JimH" ask wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist". Hamm. Now what is that old saying again? Oh yes........If it looks like a duck................- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It goes, "If you think it looks like a duck, better be sure you know what a duck actually looks like. Otherwise, you might be a quack." Exhibit A: http://www.themilitant.com/index.shtml (the duck) Speaking of ducks- do they winter over on your section of Lake Erie or does it get so cold that they all migrate elsewhere? We have some ducks that spend the entire winter in this area, but others varieties seem to fly through on their way north or south in the spring and fall. I often marvel at how unpertubed our local ducks can be when a boat is approaching. They seem to swim or dive non-chalantly out of the way, regardless of the vessel's speed. I've never seen a duck, seagull, or any other bird get clobbered on the water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So, you don't think Hillary, Pelosi, are socialists? And that Clinton/Soros website does not represent Socialists. I have in my family high ranking officials in the Socialist party before the two party system took control. They were the party of the working man back then, patriotic Americans. Not "militants", and self loathing phonys..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now that I think about it, Hillary is probably more communist than socialist.. |
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On Oct 11, 1:04 pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 12:59 pm, wrote: On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another substancless name caller. Can you explain to me how the redistribution of wealth programs Hillary is pandering with lately, are not socialist?? Or, you could just call me some names;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can, and will as soon as you learn how to stop using those silly Republican talking points and stupid Republican key words. You sound just like Hannity. Ever have a thought of your own? |
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On Oct 11, 1:17 pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:04 pm, wrote: On Oct 11, 12:59 pm, wrote: On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another substancless name caller. Can you explain to me how the redistribution of wealth programs Hillary is pandering with lately, are not socialist?? Or, you could just call me some names;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - crickets ;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, damn, I forgot. I should do nothing with my life except scan rec.boats political rantings 24-7. |
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On Oct 11, 1:17 pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:04 pm, wrote: On Oct 11, 12:59 pm, wrote: On Oct 11, 12:37 pm, Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 11, 8:45?am, wrote: On Oct 11, 11:39 am, Chuck Gould wrote: I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same $50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come back in a heartbeat. Am I the only one who remembers Clinton saying he did not care if we were all making potato chips for minimum wage, as long as we were all working? If we continue to elect communist/socialist to our govt. we will be there soon enough... I'm missing something. A quick mental review of the executive and legistlative branches of the FEDGOV fails to identify anybody in office who is a communist or socialist. The Executive branch is entirely Republican, and has been for almost seven years. The Legislative branch is a mixture of Democrats and Republicans, with the Democrats currently holding a slim majority (after about 15 years of a Republican majority there). As for Clinton's comment, you may be right. Members of the other party, (in charge of stealing for the other special interest groups) might have said, "Why the heck should the government dictate how many dollars per hour (minimum wage) we ought to pay the people working in our potato chip plants?" :-) But here's an odd question: Why does anybody give a darn? Politics will bleed you dry, and leave your discarded body along the road without even a "thank you very much". None of us really make a difference, it's just a farce. We would do better to concentrate on the simple pleasures in life, (like boating). We are so manipulated these days by people with one agenda or another- whether it's on talk radio, the internet, TV, newspaper, or whatever. At least with a boat you can control your immediate environment. You will be safe or in peril depending to a large degree on how well you prepared before setting out, and sometimes you will be called upon to employ skills that will make an important difference. That's what life ought to be about, not simply and dutifully repeating the latest "talking point" from PBS, Al Gore, moveon.org, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. The American public can be such sheep, it's really embarrassing. Exactly, Busheep talking points. Ever hear Horseface Colter and that simp Sean Hannity together? Ever third word is either "Socialist" or "Communist".- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Another substancless name caller. Can you explain to me how the redistribution of wealth programs Hillary is pandering with lately, are not socialist?? Or, you could just call me some names;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - crickets ;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, just for the record, what names have I called you? |
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