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[email protected] October 10th 07 04:23 PM

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On Oct 10, 11:15 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:47qpg3hak6887fq1cfs7mkankl3sch1mcu@4ax .com...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:11:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Which stance did Romney take on reproductive rights?


I'm constantly amused by the phrase - "reproductive rights".


What exactly are "reproductive rights"?


Example: Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy after a woman's been
raped.


Example, going out to drink all night, creating a life and
exterminating it...


JoeSpareBedroom October 10th 07 04:27 PM

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On Oct 10, 11:15 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:11:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Which stance did Romney take on reproductive rights?


I'm constantly amused by the phrase - "reproductive rights".


What exactly are "reproductive rights"?


Example: Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy after a woman's been
raped.


Example, going out to drink all night, creating a life and
exterminating it...


One example involves a situation the woman could have prevented. Guess which
one.



JoeSpareBedroom October 10th 07 04:29 PM

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On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to
certain
subjects.


It's called triangulation - look it up.


He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive
choice


Now it's "reproductive choice"?


Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice".


In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a
woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she
wants the pregnancy to continue.

Simple enough.

We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates
are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few
years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down
to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the
father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry
a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about
recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in
"choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological
liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately...


What do you think should happen if:

- A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant
- Her parents are fully aware of the rape
- Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion



[email protected] October 10th 07 04:32 PM

Judging the performers...
 
On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to
certain
subjects.


It's called triangulation - look it up.


He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive
choice


Now it's "reproductive choice"?


Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice".


In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a
woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she
wants the pregnancy to continue.


Simple enough.


We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates
are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few
years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down
to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the
father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry
a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about
recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in
"choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological
liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately...


What do you think should happen if:

- A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant
- Her parents are fully aware of the rape
- Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The girl should get some representation and get herself to a judge.


HK October 10th 07 04:36 PM

Judging the performers...
 
wrote:
On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain
subjects.
It's called triangulation - look it up.
He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive
choice
Now it's "reproductive choice"?
Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice".

In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a
woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she
wants the pregnancy to continue.

Simple enough.

We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates
are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few
years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down
to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the
father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry
a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about
recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in
"choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological
liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately...



1. If a grade-school girl is pregnant, the police should be called. Her
father probably is the father.

2. If a girl is 14 or older, it should be up to her whether to notify
her parents. The decision to proceed with an abortion, though, should be
hers alone.

3. The male who made the female pregnant has no choice.

4. A child should be able to carry any book to school, including the
bible. I carried Joyce's Ulysses to school in the 7th grade so I could
participate in our junior high's lit club.

5. You are entitled to have "negative" opinions of any group of people
you like. That negative feeling, though, cannot carry over into hiring,
housing, transportation, et cetera.

6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters
having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day.
I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors."

7. My daughter made radio and television commercials beginning at the
age of seven. Took her only three spots to pay her AFTRA initiation and
dues.

8. Airshow? Dunno what you mean in this context.

9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of
worship, not in public schools or on public property.

[email protected] October 10th 07 04:36 PM

Judging the performers...
 
On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to
certain
subjects.


It's called triangulation - look it up.


He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive
choice


Now it's "reproductive choice"?


Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice".


In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a
woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she
wants the pregnancy to continue.


Simple enough.


We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates
are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few
years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down
to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the
father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry
a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about
recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in
"choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological
liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately...


What do you think should happen if:

- A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant
- Her parents are fully aware of the rape
- Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer
mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought!
Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put
Sandy Berger on her cabinet?


JoeSpareBedroom October 10th 07 04:36 PM

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On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to
certain
subjects.


It's called triangulation - look it up.


He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive
choice


Now it's "reproductive choice"?


Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice".


In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a
woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether
she
wants the pregnancy to continue.


Simple enough.


We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican
candidates
are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide
quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few
years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down
to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the
father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry
a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about
recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in
"choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological
liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately...


What do you think should happen if:

- A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant
- Her parents are fully aware of the rape
- Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


The girl should get some representation and get herself to a judge.


What sort of representation? A lawyer? Or some other kind?



HK October 10th 07 04:38 PM

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wrote:


And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer
mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought!
Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put
Sandy Berger on her cabinet?


As opposed to say, Alberto Gonzales? :}

John H. October 10th 07 04:40 PM

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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:20:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:08:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:21:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:30:43 -0400, HK
wrote:

I don't want to get into the politics of their positions, but if you
watched the GOP debate/discussion yesterday, what did you think of
the
candidates as performers?

I thought Guiliani and Romney did the best sales job in terms of
their
grasp of issues and hard-driving presentation, but I liked Mike
Huckabee
the best. He seems the most sincere and decent. Fred Thompson looked
old, unprepared, out of place, even though he told a couple of cute
jokes. McCain is trying too hard and it shows. The rest of the crew
should drop out now.

Agree with Eisboch's comment. Obama should give Huckabee his
donation
money. Huckabee could put it to some good use. McCain should do the
same
thing.



trolling trolling trolling....


The difference is much too subtle for you.

No. Anything you disagree with, or forces you to think, you consider out
of
bounds. If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to
certain
subjects. He's stated so many different things with regard to
reproductive
choice that his critics call him Mr. Multiple Choice. And, he criticizes
universal health care by calling it a socialist idea, even though
Clinton's
suggestions are very similar to the one Romney himself promoted in
Massachusetts.

You should expand your universe of news sources to include some that are
intended for adults who give a damn about this country.


...like I said.

You'll probably choose your candidate in the same way as a 20 year old
girl
interviewed on NPR just after the last election. She voted for Bush
because
she thought he had cute ears.



...over the ocean blue...



By the way, net cop, I wasn't about to debate reproductive rights issues. I
was simply pointing out that Romney changes his stance on these issues
depending on his audience, so there's really no way to know where he'll land
if elected.

How you haven't seen this is beyond me. But, you probably wear safety
glasses when brushing your teeth, so anything's possible.


What do ya do with a drunken sailor...?

JoeSpareBedroom October 10th 07 04:40 PM

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wrote in message
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On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a
chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to
certain
subjects.


It's called triangulation - look it up.


He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive
choice


Now it's "reproductive choice"?


Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice".


In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a
woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether
she
wants the pregnancy to continue.


Simple enough.


We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican
candidates
are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide
quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few
years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down
to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the
father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry
a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about
recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow?
Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in
"choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological
liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately...


What do you think should happen if:

- A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant
- Her parents are fully aware of the rape
- Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer
mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought!
Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put
Sandy Berger on her cabinet?


No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article
I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.




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