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On Oct 10, 11:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... 1. If a grade-school girl is pregnant, the police should be called. Her father probably is the father. 2. If a girl is 14 or older, it should be up to her whether to notify her parents. The decision to proceed with an abortion, though, should be hers alone. So you have changed your positition on notification, That is good... 3. The male who made the female pregnant has no choice. 4. A child should be able to carry any book to school, including the bible. I carried Joyce's Ulysses to school in the 7th grade so I could participate in our junior high's lit club. 5. You are entitled to have "negative" opinions of any group of people you like. That negative feeling, though, cannot carry over into hiring, housing, transportation, et cetera. 6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day. I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors." Monitors? You mean protestors to shut down their free speech right? 7. My daughter made radio and television commercials beginning at the age of seven. Took her only three spots to pay her AFTRA initiation and dues. 8. Airshow? Dunno what you mean in this context. 7 + 8 are references to military commercials and airshows not being allowed in California, even though they shut down the streets and such for anyone who wants to shoot a movie... 9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of worship, not in public schools or on public property. So, you can wear clothes that say "who you are", but I can't wear a cross? Again, you are not the party of choice. you are the party of censorship and totalitarian leadership... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message s.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - you did not answer my question, you are not that clever... Do you support Hillary, knowing she has no problem with a convicted traitor in the whitehouse? |
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On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message s.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... |
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oups.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message s.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - you did not answer my question, you are not that clever... Do you support Hillary, knowing she has no problem with a convicted traitor in the whitehouse? I don't support Hillary at all, and that predates the news about Berger. |
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ps.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message s.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org). |
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ps.com... 6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day. I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors." Monitors? You mean protestors to shut down their free speech right? Nah...but maybe someone should be there to make sure they don't give a sales pitch to an autistic kid. Based on a true story you may have missed in the news. 9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of worship, not in public schools or on public property. So, you can wear clothes that say "who you are", but I can't wear a cross? Again, you are not the party of choice. you are the party of censorship and totalitarian leadership... Actually, the words following "9.", above, mention nothing about wearing a cross. Look up there. If you think you see something about wearing a cross, I just can't see it. By the way, tell me what you think about this example of totalitarianism: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/17/ny...=1&oref=slogin Just for grins, let's assume for the moment that there really is absolutely nothing in her background that should cause the problems she's having. |
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On Oct 10, 11:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah right, you are blind. That is a pretty good stretch, and of course, still only speculation based on hope and ideology.. Damn the facts. |
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ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah right, you are blind. That is a pretty good stretch, and of course, still only speculation based on hope and ideology.. Damn the facts. Your assumption that the administration is innocent regarding the leak is also an assumption devoid of facts. You know no more than I do. |
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On Oct 10, 4:30?am, HK wrote:
I don't want to get into the politics of their positions, but if you watched the GOP debate/discussion yesterday, what did you think of the candidates as performers? I thought Guiliani and Romney did the best sales job in terms of their grasp of issues and hard-driving presentation, but I liked Mike Huckabee the best. He seems the most sincere and decent. Fred Thompson looked old, unprepared, out of place, even though he told a couple of cute jokes. McCain is trying too hard and it shows. The rest of the crew should drop out now. The performance is meaningless. If Rudy prevails for the R's, much of the Christian right is ready to defect. Should that happen, the next POTUS will be a D, not an R. But who gives a darn which mob boss is in charge of the pimps and thieves in the federal government, or even which mob is temporarily king of the hill? One batch of *******s steals for one set of special interests, and the other batch of *******s steals for another. Certainly isn't worth getting all excited about, and definitely not worthy of a fight between friends. Item: 3rd party nominations? By Christina Salvo Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 8:47 a.m. Rumors have been circulating for sometime now about the possibility of James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, seeking a third-party candidate for the 2008 presidential election. Tuesday Tom Minnery, Sr. Vice President of Government and Public Policy at Focus said yes, "there is some thinking about the possibility of an evangelical Christian leader's backing a third-party candidate," but that would only happen if both parties nominate candidates who are both pro- abortion and pro-gay rights. Traditionally it is the differences between republicans and democrats that divide voters, but in the coming election it may be their similarities. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is leading the polls for the Republican vote, but supports both abortion and gay rights. Minnery said "If both major parties choose to go in the opposite direction then Dr Dobson, as a private citizen, may go in the opposite direction." A direction that many would faithfully follow. One out of four Americans are fundamental Christians which now makes up the base of the republican party. A demographic that political experts said the Republican Party cannot afford to lose but is not enough for a third party to gain. Bob Loevy, Political Science Professor at Colorado College said "All third-parties do these days is split one of the major parties guaranteeing victory for the other party." It is a theory that has proven true in the past and a theory Dr. Dobson will consider. |
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On Oct 10, 11:51 am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 10, 11:36 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... 1. If a grade-school girl is pregnant, the police should be called. Her father probably is the father. 2. If a girl is 14 or older, it should be up to her whether to notify her parents. The decision to proceed with an abortion, though, should be hers alone. So you have changed your positition on notification, That is good... 3. The male who made the female pregnant has no choice. 4. A child should be able to carry any book to school, including the bible. I carried Joyce's Ulysses to school in the 7th grade so I could participate in our junior high's lit club. 5. You are entitled to have "negative" opinions of any group of people you like. That negative feeling, though, cannot carry over into hiring, housing, transportation, et cetera. 6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day. I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors." Monitors? You mean protestors to shut down their free speech right? 7. My daughter made radio and television commercials beginning at the age of seven. Took her only three spots to pay her AFTRA initiation and dues. 8. Airshow? Dunno what you mean in this context. 7 + 8 are references to military commercials and airshows not being allowed in California, even though they shut down the streets and such for anyone who wants to shoot a movie... 9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of worship, not in public schools or on public property. So, you can wear clothes that say "who you are", but I can't wear a cross? Again, you are not the party of choice. you are the party of censorship and totalitarian leadership... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wearing a cross is not usually considered a "religious celebration" in the traditional sense, eh? Military recruiters need monitors to make sure they don't bullship naive kids into military service.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey, these are adults, years beyond the age of 14 which you seem to have picked as adult. How about monitors to keep teachers from bullshipping naive (6 year olds) into a gay lifestyle, or professors from bullshipping niave students into a life of drug use and irresponsible sex? Half the country is against that too, but you want monitors for only your issues, self indulgent, hypocrytical, that is now the core of your party.. |
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On Oct 10, 12:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah right, you are blind. That is a pretty good stretch, and of course, still only speculation based on hope and ideology.. Damn the facts. Your assumption that the administration is innocent regarding the leak is also an assumption devoid of facts. You know no more than I do.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do the math |
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oups.com... On Oct 10, 12:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah right, you are blind. That is a pretty good stretch, and of course, still only speculation based on hope and ideology.. Damn the facts. Your assumption that the administration is innocent regarding the leak is also an assumption devoid of facts. You know no more than I do.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do the math I already have. AQ plugged the security fault which allowed set.org to get the video and other information. That is damaging to our national security. Why would set.org leak the video if it prevents them from doing their work? |
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ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:51 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:36 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... 1. If a grade-school girl is pregnant, the police should be called. Her father probably is the father. 2. If a girl is 14 or older, it should be up to her whether to notify her parents. The decision to proceed with an abortion, though, should be hers alone. So you have changed your positition on notification, That is good... 3. The male who made the female pregnant has no choice. 4. A child should be able to carry any book to school, including the bible. I carried Joyce's Ulysses to school in the 7th grade so I could participate in our junior high's lit club. 5. You are entitled to have "negative" opinions of any group of people you like. That negative feeling, though, cannot carry over into hiring, housing, transportation, et cetera. 6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day. I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors." Monitors? You mean protestors to shut down their free speech right? 7. My daughter made radio and television commercials beginning at the age of seven. Took her only three spots to pay her AFTRA initiation and dues. 8. Airshow? Dunno what you mean in this context. 7 + 8 are references to military commercials and airshows not being allowed in California, even though they shut down the streets and such for anyone who wants to shoot a movie... 9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of worship, not in public schools or on public property. So, you can wear clothes that say "who you are", but I can't wear a cross? Again, you are not the party of choice. you are the party of censorship and totalitarian leadership... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wearing a cross is not usually considered a "religious celebration" in the traditional sense, eh? Military recruiters need monitors to make sure they don't bullship naive kids into military service.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey, these are adults, years beyond the age of 14 which you seem to have picked as adult. How about monitors to keep teachers from bullshipping naive (6 year olds) into a gay lifestyle, or professors from bullshipping niave students into a life of drug use and irresponsible sex? Half the country is against that too, but you want monitors for only your issues, self indulgent, hypocrytical, that is now the core of your party.. How about keeping an eye on recruiters so they don't try to sign up autistic kids? You'd better address this question, or I'll cut off your fun for the rest of the day. |
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On Oct 10, 12:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 12:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah right, you are blind. That is a pretty good stretch, and of course, still only speculation based on hope and ideology.. Damn the facts. Your assumption that the administration is innocent regarding the leak is also an assumption devoid of facts. You know no more than I do.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do the math I already have. AQ plugged the security fault which allowed set.org to get the video and other information. That is damaging to our national security. Why would set.org leak the video if it prevents them from doing their work?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't suggest they did, I am suggesting that some anti administration activist did it, like so many other leaks... |
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ps.com... On Oct 10, 12:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 12:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And now that I answered your question, straight up you should answer mine.. and not with a cut and paste link, how about a real thought! Do you support Hillary knowing that she could and probably will put Sandy Berger on her cabinet? No, I don't like Sandy Berger. Now, tell me what you thought of the article I provided for you. It's on a similar subject, and it's new & current.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no proof at all the administration leaked it, period. The math would suggest just the opposite. There is only one party who has stood in congress and stated that they would do better, if we lose the war.. I don't think it was the admin who leaked it, just like so many other intelligence gathering tools which have been leaked in the last few years. These leaks do not help repubs, do the math, 1+1 is still 2... Umm...actually, the administration needs all the help it can get to support our presence in Iraq, even if bin Laden has little or nothing to do with Iraq. So, it makes perfect sense that Bush would allow the video to be leaked. It's free publicity. And, I'm absolutely positive that he didn't understand that by releasing the video too soon, he may have burned an excellent intelligence source (site.org).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah right, you are blind. That is a pretty good stretch, and of course, still only speculation based on hope and ideology.. Damn the facts. Your assumption that the administration is innocent regarding the leak is also an assumption devoid of facts. You know no more than I do.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do the math I already have. AQ plugged the security fault which allowed set.org to get the video and other information. That is damaging to our national security. Why would set.org leak the video if it prevents them from doing their work?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't suggest they did, I am suggesting that some anti administration activist did it, like so many other leaks... The video was sent only to people at the White House who had the highest possible security clearance. They passed it on to people it shouldn't have gone to. Are you suggesting that the first people to receive it are stupid and careless? |
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On Oct 10, 12:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:51 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:36 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... 1. If a grade-school girl is pregnant, the police should be called. Her father probably is the father. 2. If a girl is 14 or older, it should be up to her whether to notify her parents. The decision to proceed with an abortion, though, should be hers alone. So you have changed your positition on notification, That is good... 3. The male who made the female pregnant has no choice. 4. A child should be able to carry any book to school, including the bible. I carried Joyce's Ulysses to school in the 7th grade so I could participate in our junior high's lit club. 5. You are entitled to have "negative" opinions of any group of people you like. That negative feeling, though, cannot carry over into hiring, housing, transportation, et cetera. 6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day. I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors." Monitors? You mean protestors to shut down their free speech right? 7. My daughter made radio and television commercials beginning at the age of seven. Took her only three spots to pay her AFTRA initiation and dues. 8. Airshow? Dunno what you mean in this context. 7 + 8 are references to military commercials and airshows not being allowed in California, even though they shut down the streets and such for anyone who wants to shoot a movie... 9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of worship, not in public schools or on public property. So, you can wear clothes that say "who you are", but I can't wear a cross? Again, you are not the party of choice. you are the party of censorship and totalitarian leadership... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wearing a cross is not usually considered a "religious celebration" in the traditional sense, eh? Military recruiters need monitors to make sure they don't bullship naive kids into military service.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey, these are adults, years beyond the age of 14 which you seem to have picked as adult. How about monitors to keep teachers from bullshipping naive (6 year olds) into a gay lifestyle, or professors from bullshipping niave students into a life of drug use and irresponsible sex? Half the country is against that too, but you want monitors for only your issues, self indulgent, hypocrytical, that is now the core of your party.. How about keeping an eye on recruiters so they don't try to sign up autistic kids? You'd better address this question, or I'll cut off your fun for the rest of the day.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - One incident, not a proven pattern? One sided reporting, not all the facts? Outright made up? All of these are possiblities? The problem is you beleive it simply because if fits the mold... |
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ups.com... On Oct 10, 12:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 11:51 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:36 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 10, 11:14 am, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:00:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: If you knew anything at all about Romney, you'd know he's a chameleon. He'll say whatever his audience hopes for with regard to certain subjects. It's called triangulation - look it up. He's stated so many different things with regard to reproductive choice Now it's "reproductive choice"? Please to 'splain this "reproductive choice". In my household, "reproductive choice" means it is entirely up to a woman whether she wants to become pregnant and, if she does, whether she wants the pregnancy to continue. Simple enough. We're 100% "reproductive choice" here. Many of the Republican candidates are anti-abortion. That's the real definition of "pro-life."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I understand your positition, unless it has changed in the last few years, you beleive in choice with no parental notification right down to grade school... Don't make me google this, you said it. Does the father have a choice? Do my kids have a chioce, say they want to carry a bible to school? Or have a negative opinion of gays? How about recruit for the military? Make a commercial? Have an airshow? Celebrate Christmas and Easter??? Of course not, you do not beleive in "choice" you beleive in self indulgence... Like most ideological liberals, which unfortunately seems to be the mainstream lately... 1. If a grade-school girl is pregnant, the police should be called. Her father probably is the father. 2. If a girl is 14 or older, it should be up to her whether to notify her parents. The decision to proceed with an abortion, though, should be hers alone. So you have changed your positition on notification, That is good... 3. The male who made the female pregnant has no choice. 4. A child should be able to carry any book to school, including the bible. I carried Joyce's Ulysses to school in the 7th grade so I could participate in our junior high's lit club. 5. You are entitled to have "negative" opinions of any group of people you like. That negative feeling, though, cannot carry over into hiring, housing, transportation, et cetera. 6. Military recruitment. I have no objection to military recruiters having a booth and handing out literature at a high school "career" day. I do believer military recruiters at such venues have "monitors." Monitors? You mean protestors to shut down their free speech right? 7. My daughter made radio and television commercials beginning at the age of seven. Took her only three spots to pay her AFTRA initiation and dues. 8. Airshow? Dunno what you mean in this context. 7 + 8 are references to military commercials and airshows not being allowed in California, even though they shut down the streets and such for anyone who wants to shoot a movie... 9. Religious holidays should be celebrated at home and in a house of worship, not in public schools or on public property. So, you can wear clothes that say "who you are", but I can't wear a cross? Again, you are not the party of choice. you are the party of censorship and totalitarian leadership... - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wearing a cross is not usually considered a "religious celebration" in the traditional sense, eh? Military recruiters need monitors to make sure they don't bullship naive kids into military service.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey, these are adults, years beyond the age of 14 which you seem to have picked as adult. How about monitors to keep teachers from bullshipping naive (6 year olds) into a gay lifestyle, or professors from bullshipping niave students into a life of drug use and irresponsible sex? Half the country is against that too, but you want monitors for only your issues, self indulgent, hypocrytical, that is now the core of your party.. How about keeping an eye on recruiters so they don't try to sign up autistic kids? You'd better address this question, or I'll cut off your fun for the rest of the day.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - One incident, not a proven pattern? One sided reporting, not all the facts? Outright made up? All of these are possiblities? The problem is you beleive it simply because if fits the mold... Two separate questions, requiring two separate answers. Keep it short. 1) Are you saying that the one incident didn't occur? Yes, or no? 2) If the incident didn't occur, why did a judge hear the case? |
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... On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:15:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:11:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Which stance did Romney take on reproductive rights? I'm constantly amused by the phrase - "reproductive rights". What exactly are "reproductive rights"? Example: Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy after a woman's been raped. So kill a kid. There's just one thing I like about you, John. You never fail to meet my expectations of you, which are pretty low. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:15:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:11:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Which stance did Romney take on reproductive rights? I'm constantly amused by the phrase - "reproductive rights". What exactly are "reproductive rights"? Example: Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy after a woman's been raped. So kill a kid. |
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"Tim" wrote in message oups.com... Eisboch wrote: Agree about Huckabee. If he could only change his last name. 8) He *did* radically change his physical image. Lost a ton of weight. Eisboch Not sure, but I think he lost the weight due to health reasons instad of *image* (large threat of diabetes) I didn't mean to suggest he lost weight to *enhance* his image for political reasons. I just meant that among many achievements, he did something about being overweight. I can relate to that! Eisboch |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 10:49 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message The difference is much too subtle for you. How you haven't seen this is beyond me. But, you probably wear safety glasses when brushing your teeth, so anything's possible.- You probably don't understand why this is odd.- Hide quoted text - What is with the constant accusations that folks that don't agree with you "don't understand' or "don't read" or "don't care"... Do you understand the concept of a Democratic Republic?? Do you understand that the country is bigger than your basement apartment and a stack of playboy magazines? I think you are stuck in a teenage fantasy, go back to Jon Stewart, he seems to think at your level... Intolerant, and ignorant... His technique of debate has been well studied. Those with *very* liberal viewpoints often take on a pseudo-superior, "I am smart, you are dumb" attitude when engaged in otherwise informative and meaningful discussion with someone who does not agree with him. In other words, if you don't agree, you are ill-informed or stupid or both. If you read his comments, you'll see that it is a consistent approach to debate. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 10:49 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message The difference is much too subtle for you. How you haven't seen this is beyond me. But, you probably wear safety glasses when brushing your teeth, so anything's possible.- You probably don't understand why this is odd.- Hide quoted text - What is with the constant accusations that folks that don't agree with you "don't understand' or "don't read" or "don't care"... Do you understand the concept of a Democratic Republic?? Do you understand that the country is bigger than your basement apartment and a stack of playboy magazines? I think you are stuck in a teenage fantasy, go back to Jon Stewart, he seems to think at your level... Intolerant, and ignorant... His technique of debate has been well studied. Those with *very* liberal viewpoints often take on a pseudo-superior, "I am smart, you are dumb" attitude when engaged in otherwise informative and meaningful discussion with someone who does not agree with him. In other words, if you don't agree, you are ill-informed or stupid or both. If you read his comments, you'll see that it is a consistent approach to debate. Eisboch Perhaps you should read what he was responding to before passing judgement this time, Eisboch. Never mind. You won't. |
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wrote in message ps.com... Yeah, and Hillary is solid as a rock, right? I don't hear Romney taking 4 positions on an issue, with four different dialects, in one day. Not to mention, at least Romney is willing to stand up in front of a hostile interivew and explain his posititions and their evolution. Not on dem (Hillary) will even take unscripted questions, much less address the other half of the country. Everytime she gets a quesiton she doesn't like, she attacks the questioner, it is a tactic developed by the Clintons back a few years ago... They just call it a vast right wing conspiracy, and dodge.. All the time setting up groups like Media Matters to lie and run interferance.. Although I lean towards the "right" politically, I've always tried to keep an open mind during election seasons. There are so many problems to resolve, both domestic social issues and in international affairs that it would be stupid not to give every serious candidate some consideration, regardless of their party affiliation. Having said that, my impressions of Hillary (so far) are as follows: 1. Brilliant mind. 2. Politically experienced. 3. Media experienced. but: 4. Seems to be motivated by a drive for personal achievement rather than having a real national interest vision. 5. Continues to propose domestic programs that border on socialism, (which, of course, gets votes). Think about it. Only 50 percent of the population pays income taxes. 6. Admitted Yankees fan. Number 5 (and 6) are bothersome for me. I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I'd much rather provide tax money, donations and service to enable those in need (but otherwise physically and mentally capable) with the tools and knowledge to provide for themselves rather than becoming dependents of the government. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:49:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:15:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:11:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Which stance did Romney take on reproductive rights? I'm constantly amused by the phrase - "reproductive rights". What exactly are "reproductive rights"? Example: Deciding whether to continue a pregnancy after a woman's been raped. So kill a kid. There's just one thing I like about you, John. You never fail to meet my expectations of you, which are pretty low. "you, you, you", as I said. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion How many abortions are performed due to rape versus the number performed following consenting sexual relations that results in an inconvenient pregnancy? Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion How many abortions are performed due to rape versus the number performed following consenting sexual relations that results in an inconvenient pregnancy? Eisboch I don't know. Why is a statistic important to a girl who doesn't want to carry a baby that was conceived in an act of violence? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 10:49 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message The difference is much too subtle for you. How you haven't seen this is beyond me. But, you probably wear safety glasses when brushing your teeth, so anything's possible.- You probably don't understand why this is odd.- Hide quoted text - What is with the constant accusations that folks that don't agree with you "don't understand' or "don't read" or "don't care"... Do you understand the concept of a Democratic Republic?? Do you understand that the country is bigger than your basement apartment and a stack of playboy magazines? I think you are stuck in a teenage fantasy, go back to Jon Stewart, he seems to think at your level... Intolerant, and ignorant... His technique of debate has been well studied. Those with *very* liberal viewpoints often take on a pseudo-superior, "I am smart, you are dumb" attitude when engaged in otherwise informative and meaningful discussion with someone who does not agree with him. In other words, if you don't agree, you are ill-informed or stupid or both. If you read his comments, you'll see that it is a consistent approach to debate. Eisboch Perhaps you should read what he was responding to before passing judgement this time, Eisboch. Never mind. You won't. I rest my case. Eisboch |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. No. Eisboch |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. No. Eisboch It's interesting how people who bitch about "socialism" are never EVER willing to define an example. I know why. So do you. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion How many abortions are performed due to rape versus the number performed following consenting sexual relations that results in an inconvenient pregnancy? Eisboch I don't know. Why is a statistic important to a girl who doesn't want to carry a baby that was conceived in an act of violence? I think it is a very important statistic because the most common argument for across the board abortion rights is examples of rape or violence. I don't know, but I suspect there are many more abortions performed simply because a pregnancy is currently "inconvenient" than those performed because of a rape. Eisboch |
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... On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:55:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. No. Eisboch It's interesting how people who bitch about "socialism" are never EVER willing to define an example. I know why. So do you. I really don't think you have time for this, Doug. I do now! Don't obsess about my schedule. Go iron your socks or something. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. No. Eisboch It's interesting how people who bitch about "socialism" are never EVER willing to define an example. I know why. So do you. Because what I might define as socialism, you would likely disagree with and call me stupid. Eisboch |
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... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion How many abortions are performed due to rape versus the number performed following consenting sexual relations that results in an inconvenient pregnancy? Eisboch I don't know. Why is a statistic important to a girl who doesn't want to carry a baby that was conceived in an act of violence? I think it is a very important statistic because the most common argument for across the board abortion rights is examples of rape or violence. I don't know, but I suspect there are many more abortions performed simply because a pregnancy is currently "inconvenient" than those performed because of a rape. Eisboch Never vote based only on things you suspect. If your daughter was raped and you started talking to her about statistics, I wonder how she'd react. |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:55:07 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. No. Eisboch It's interesting how people who bitch about "socialism" are never EVER willing to define an example. I know why. So do you. I really don't think you have time for this, Doug. You must be Doug's boss. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I, for one, am all for delaying the eventual slide of the USA to socialism for as long as humanly possible. I think most people would agree with that. But, it's hard to tell without definitions. What's your brief definition of socialized medicine, for instance? Explain as if you needed to say it in a short sentence to an economics class. No. Eisboch It's interesting how people who bitch about "socialism" are never EVER willing to define an example. I know why. So do you. Because what I might define as socialism, you would likely disagree with and call me stupid. Eisboch Not at all. But, let's stick with a specific issue: "socialized medicine". How do you define that? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What do you think should happen if: - A 16 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant - Her parents are fully aware of the rape - Her parents are dead set against her having an abortion How many abortions are performed due to rape versus the number performed following consenting sexual relations that results in an inconvenient pregnancy? Eisboch I don't know. Why is a statistic important to a girl who doesn't want to carry a baby that was conceived in an act of violence? I think it is a very important statistic because the most common argument for across the board abortion rights is examples of rape or violence. I don't know, but I suspect there are many more abortions performed simply because a pregnancy is currently "inconvenient" than those performed because of a rape. Eisboch Never vote based only on things you suspect. If your daughter was raped and you started talking to her about statistics, I wonder how she'd react. See? The rape thing again. Eisboch |
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