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Which boat will dip into a wave??

Hummmmmm....

http://www.yaimkool.com/imjustsayin.htm



I included the link again cause I do have a question. I have been
looking at low transom boats and accepted Harrys assertion of the
benefits of a LT (ie. quick empty cockpit etc.) as I also have a LT
boat even if it is worth less than Harrys guage cluster Anyway, I
was watching my transom ride way above everything I could throw at it
and with my wide flat (primary stability/bouyancy) hull it makes a lot
of sense as it takes a great amount of pressure to dip my transom,
right from the start. What I can't understand is how a LT is good on a
deep vee (with secondary or in this case, delayed stability/bouyancy).
In rough water the transom can rise and fall. The deep vee does not
provide nearly as much bouyancy high in the water and the momentum of
the drop to sea level comes much more slowly. The momentum of such a
heavy hull, and narrow surface presence could much more easily allow a
deep vee to submerge. Much more easily that a flat or relatively flat
bay boat the same way a deep vee rolls more in relation to the surface
compared to a flat boat. Remember, bouyancy is only relational to the
surface area of contact with the hull. After considering this I am
wondering why anyone would really build a LT into a deep Vee, big
water type boat? Or is a Parker really a bay boat, not intended for
rough water? Kind of like a Suzuki Samuri, looks like it's built for
the trails, but really built for the urban dweller?

I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip
can answer my question rationally Sorry Harry, like your boat, but
still have my concerns...




I'm not "****ed" at your attempts to educate yourself. I think you're a
funny guy, with very, very limited experience in real vee-bottomed power
boats.

Take a look here and see if you can figure out any of the answers you
are seeking:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg



Note that the round stainless steel drain on the port side next to the
engine is above the waterline.

Note that the transom cutout portion is 25" high.

Note the areas of the boat's bottom outboard of the trim tabs.

Any wheels turning up there between your ears?


Maybe this photo will help allay your fears:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...olisparker.jpg


Here's another bottom photo for you to ponder:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...C/IMG_0441.jpg

And another:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-factory-3.jpg



Get to work, grasshopper.

Harry,

Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them
inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in
the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew.
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Harry,

Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them
inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in
the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew.



Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming
asshole, I'll be sure to contact you.
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,

Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them
inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in
the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew.



Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming
asshole, I'll be sure to contact you.


Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside?

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On Oct 13, 8:16 am, HK wrote:
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On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote:
Which boat will dip into a wave??


Hummmmmm....


http://www.yaimkool.com/imjustsayin.htm




I included the link again cause I do have a question. I have been
looking at low transom boats and accepted Harrys assertion of the
benefits of a LT (ie. quick empty cockpit etc.) as I also have a LT
boat even if it is worth less than Harrys guage cluster Anyway, I
was watching my transom ride way above everything I could throw at it
and with my wide flat (primary stability/bouyancy) hull it makes a lot
of sense as it takes a great amount of pressure to dip my transom,
right from the start. What I can't understand is how a LT is good on a
deep vee (with secondary or in this case, delayed stability/bouyancy).
In rough water the transom can rise and fall. The deep vee does not
provide nearly as much bouyancy high in the water and the momentum of
the drop to sea level comes much more slowly. The momentum of such a
heavy hull, and narrow surface presence could much more easily allow a
deep vee to submerge. Much more easily that a flat or relatively flat
bay boat the same way a deep vee rolls more in relation to the surface
compared to a flat boat. Remember, bouyancy is only relational to the
surface area of contact with the hull. After considering this I am
wondering why anyone would really build a LT into a deep Vee, big
water type boat? Or is a Parker really a bay boat, not intended for
rough water? Kind of like a Suzuki Samuri, looks like it's built for
the trails, but really built for the urban dweller?


I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip
can answer my question rationally Sorry Harry, like your boat, but
still have my concerns...


I'm not "****ed" at your attempts to educate yourself. I think you're a
funny guy, with very, very limited experience in real vee-bottomed power
boats.

Take a look here and see if you can figure out any of the answers you
are seeking:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02352...

Note that the round stainless steel drain on the port side next to the
engine is above the waterline.

Note that the transom cutout portion is 25" high.

Note the areas of the boat's bottom outboard of the trim tabs.

Any wheels turning up there between your ears?

Maybe this photo will help allay your fears:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/annapolis...

Here's another bottom photo for you to ponder:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...C/IMG_0441.jpg

And another:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/parker21-...

Get to work, grasshopper.- Hide quoted text -

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I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on
my end...

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I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on
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Me, too. Let's try these.

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

http://tinyurl.com/2juohq

http://tinyurl.com/2sgr9v

http://tinyurl.com/3yshww


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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,

Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them
inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in
the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew.



Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing
flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you.


Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside?



Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole,
there's no reason to treat you as if you were not.

I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I bring
them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing grease, ask
two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove the boots up
your butt.

Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like a
little twerp?
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On Oct 13, 11:26 am, HK wrote:
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I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on
my end...


Me, too. Let's try these.

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

http://tinyurl.com/2juohq

http://tinyurl.com/2sgr9v

http://tinyurl.com/3yshww


I am starting to see the flaw in my thinking... I am noting that other
than up on plane, the water level at the transom would probably not be
below the chine logs (into the vee)... Hummmmm... I'm lernin

As to LT on an off shore boat, I guess it can be done safely, but I am
still trying to figure out why when there are probably better options
in most conditions, on most hull configurations... Hummmm, I'll be
back

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,

Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them
inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them
in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and
mildew.


Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing
flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you.


Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside?



Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole,
there's no reason to treat you as if you were not.

I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I bring
them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing grease, ask
two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove the boots up
your butt.

Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like a
little twerp?


Harry,
It looks like you need to take your own advice.

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On Oct 13, 11:26 am, HK wrote:
wrote:

I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on
my end...

Me, too. Let's try these.

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

http://tinyurl.com/2juohq

http://tinyurl.com/2sgr9v

http://tinyurl.com/3yshww


I am starting to see the flaw in my thinking... I am noting that other
than up on plane, the water level at the transom would probably not be
below the chine logs (into the vee)... Hummmmm... I'm lernin

As to LT on an off shore boat, I guess it can be done safely, but I am
still trying to figure out why when there are probably better options
in most conditions, on most hull configurations... Hummmm, I'll be
back



You're learning, grasshopper. The chines are there to add stabilization
at rest and to knock down spray at speed.

Every "configuration" is a compromise. As an example, the "eurotransoms"
found on many boats cut down on interior space, make it more of a reach
to handle a fish off the stern, and...despite the fact that they look
like they might block backwash, don't in many cases. The water comes
right aboard when it "wants" to do so. A transom with scuppers in the
right place and large enough for their intended purpose is just fine.

A bracket, as I had on my former Parker, stops most backwash, period.
But...it gets in the way of fishing and when you drop off plane, the
water level tends to be, at least for a moment, right at the bottom of
the powerhead cover.

I like the cut-out transom on smaller boats like the one I have now.
Boat balances better (boat floats more level at rest), easy to fish off
the stern, boat drains fast.

There is a splashguard option. I saw it at the dealership. My feeling
was that it would not be necessary.

You know, I used to "go offshore" in 12 to 15 foot wood boats with
slablike 15" transoms. Should I have been worried?
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,

Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them
inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them
in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and
mildew.


Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing
flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you.

Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside?



Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole,
there's no reason to treat you as if you were not.

I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I
bring them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing
grease, ask two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove
the boots up your butt.

Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like
a little twerp?


Harry,
It looks like you need to take your own advice.


Virtually everyone here is "behaving" reasonably, R., Except for you,
the usual turds, and sometimes Wayne. Is it beyond your capability to
keep your snarkiness in check?
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