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Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Howdy,
I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Lance Osojnicki wrote:
Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance If you are concerned, get a Zook 300. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki" wrote: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance I have a good friend with a Judge 28'. He has a Honda 90 4-stroke on the back. It trolls nicely. Top speed is around 27mph. It takes a while to get on plane, but it will - eventually. It's all in how fast you want to go. Harry has 150hp on a 21' CC that is, according to him, pretty heavy. He's very pleased with it. The dry weight of my boat is either 2950 or 3000 pounds. I suspect the latter is with the molded in front seats, which I did not get. The 150 is terrific. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Oct 5, 3:05 pm, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki" wrote: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance I have a good friend with a Judge 28'. He has a Honda 90 4-stroke on the back. It trolls nicely. Top speed is around 27mph. It takes a while to get on plane, but it will - eventually. It's all in how fast you want to go. Harry has 150hp on a 21' CC that is, according to him, pretty heavy. He's very pleased with it. The dry weight of my boat is either 2950 or 3000 pounds. I suspect the latter is with the molded in front seats, which I did not get. The 150 is terrific.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Seafox 256CC is the make and model number.
http://www.seafoxboats.com wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 5, 3:05 pm, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki" wrote: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance I have a good friend with a Judge 28'. He has a Honda 90 4-stroke on the back. It trolls nicely. Top speed is around 27mph. It takes a while to get on plane, but it will - eventually. It's all in how fast you want to go. Harry has 150hp on a 21' CC that is, according to him, pretty heavy. He's very pleased with it. The dry weight of my boat is either 2950 or 3000 pounds. I suspect the latter is with the molded in front seats, which I did not get. The 150 is terrific.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki"
wrote: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance I have a good friend with a Judge 28'. He has a Honda 90 4-stroke on the back. It trolls nicely. Top speed is around 27mph. It takes a while to get on plane, but it will - eventually. It's all in how fast you want to go. Harry has 150hp on a 21' CC that is, according to him, pretty heavy. He's very pleased with it. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Lance Osojnicki wrote:
Seafox 256CC is the make and model number. http://www.seafoxboats.com I'd go with the Zook 300. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, Lance Osojnicki penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. The principle reason to go with twins is redundancy. Your piggy bank and your level of comfort with losing either some or *all* power will have to come to terms..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Lance Osojnicki wrote:
Seafox 256CC is the make and model number. http://www.seafoxboats.com All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration. Another factor to consider is the primary intended usage. Cruising? off-shore fishing? diving? I know people who are freaked out to run out of sight of land with just a single engine, and others who say a single OB (properly maintained) is the way to go. In either configuration, I'd recommend as much HP as allowed by he manufacturer that you can afford. I've had twins before, but it was stock rigged and I felt at the time with a load of divers and gear and fuel, that boat was under-powered. I now have a single OB (Yamaha 300 HPDI on 24 ft center console) and it suits me just fine. I've run from home in SW Florida to the Keys a couple of times with this single OB. Dual OBs are double the initial cost and double the on-going maintenance. I'm more a near shore boater, so a single works great for me. If I was a serious hard-core off-shore type, then I'd consider the twins. And again, with as much HP as the boat can handle within your budget. DownTime |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
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Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:32:31 -0500, John H.
wrote: Another major reason for twins is maneuverability. That's been beat to death and lost. I agree. With outboards or I/Os it just doesn't make that much difference. With inboards it's a whole different story. I also agree that redundancy is not that big an issue with inshore or near shore boating. However, if you boat near dangerous surf, tide rips or breaking inlets I'd vote for twins no matter how far out you go. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
JimH wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:38:15 -0400, "JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, Lance Osojnicki penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. The principle reason to go with twins is redundancy. Your piggy bank and your level of comfort with losing either some or *all* power will have to come to terms..... -- Another major reason for twins is maneuverability. Twin outboards are usually placed so close together that there is very little benefit in the minute amount of asymmetrical thrust that can be produced. My twins were on boats with I/O's. I could pivot either of them on a dime and could easily stern in when docking. My single drives (I/O's also) could not and my ability to maneuver in reverse was/is a bit challenging. I could not imagine trying to stern in with an single I/O. If there is in fact no advantage in maneuverability between single and twin outboards (vs. when comparing with I/O's or inboards) perhaps it is due to where the drives sit in relationship to the pivot point of the boat and not the space between the drives. There is a world of difference between close quarter maneuverability with an I/O and a inboard. You really should be able to turn and/or stern in that small runabout easily. You probably forgot how to use a single I/O after using twins. You need to have someone review the basics and find out how easy it is. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
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Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:32:31 -0500, John H. wrote: Another major reason for twins is maneuverability. That's been beat to death and lost. I agree. With outboards or I/Os it just doesn't make that much difference. With inboards it's a whole different story. I also agree that redundancy is not that big an issue with inshore or near shore boating. However, if you boat near dangerous surf, tide rips or breaking inlets I'd vote for twins no matter how far out you go. The fact that the I/O pivots and you don't need to rely on the water flowing past the rudder to maneuver makes a single I/O runabout a very easy boat to maneuver forward or in reverse. If someone is having trouble, they need to have someone teach them the basics. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:32:31 -0500, John H. wrote: Another major reason for twins is maneuverability. That's been beat to death and lost. I agree. With outboards or I/Os it just doesn't make that much difference. With inboards it's a whole different story. I also agree that redundancy is not that big an issue with inshore or near shore boating. However, if you boat near dangerous surf, tide rips or breaking inlets I'd vote for twins no matter how far out you go. Bad fuel problems will still leave you stranded. Dan |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
"Lance Osojnicki" wrote in news:47068007$0$10310$815e3792
@news.qwest.net: My piggy bank would like to say single. Seatow hopes you'll get the single, too!....(c; Larry -- You can tell there's extremely intelligent life in the universe because they have never called Earth. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:29:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:38:15 -0400, "JimH" ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, Lance Osojnicki penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. The principle reason to go with twins is redundancy. Your piggy bank and your level of comfort with losing either some or *all* power will have to come to terms..... -- Another major reason for twins is maneuverability. Twin outboards are usually placed so close together that there is very little benefit in the minute amount of asymmetrical thrust that can be produced. My twins were on boats with I/O's. I could pivot either of them on a dime and could easily stern in when docking. My single drives (I/O's also) could not and my ability to maneuver in reverse was/is a bit challenging. I could not imagine trying to stern in with an single I/O. If there is in fact no advantage in maneuverability between single and twin outboards (vs. when comparing with I/O's or inboards) perhaps it is due to where the drives sit in relationship to the pivot point of the boat and not the space between the drives. Let's see...listen to Gene and Wayne, or listen to JimH?? |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:16:40 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom
wrote: I also agree that redundancy is not that big an issue with inshore or near shore boating. However, if you boat near dangerous surf, tide rips or breaking inlets I'd vote for twins no matter how far out you go. Bad fuel problems will still leave you stranded. That can happen if you have a single fuel tank. The best dual engine setup also has dual tanks and filters. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
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Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:56:05 +0000, Larry wrote:
My piggy bank would like to say single. Seatow hopes you'll get the single, too!....(c; SeaTow is a legitimate strategy if you boat in an area with no immediate hazzards and you have good communications on the boat. They will cut you off however if you have chronic problems. I think that's reasonable. I have twice rescued boats who were unable to contact SeaTow so it is important to recognize the limitations of using them as a backup plan. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:29:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: My twins were on boats with I/O's. I could pivot either of them on a dime and could easily stern in when docking. My single drives (I/O's also) could not and my ability to maneuver in reverse was/is a bit challenging. I could not imagine trying to stern in with an single I/O. I'm now on my second single engine I/O, both in the 24 to 27 ft range. I've had no issues backing them in as long as there are no cross wind or cross current issues. It does take some practice to anticipate how the boat will react to combinations of steering and throttle. I have had a lot of practice with backing up and manevering with a single I/O. If you are saying that doing so is comparable to doing so with twins then you are wrong. It is different, but very easy if you know how to do it correctly. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki"
wrote: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? Maybe. I'd want to sea trial a similar boat with that engine before I committed. 3700 lbs doesn't sound like a lot for a 25' CC, but by the time you dump a hundred gallons of gas in it, gear and three people in it, you can hit 4500 lbs easy. You didn't mention what model boat it was - that would help a little - some boats are better designed than others. Twins are the way to go and preferably 200s. I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Yes and no. Depends on the hull design. A 24.5' bay boat is technically a CC and there are intermediate types of CC boats that are designed to be a "cross over" bay/center - etc. Really need to know what the model is you are looking at. A bay boat, for instance, have a completely different type of hull and at 25' would perform well with a 250. A 25' CC with a deadrise of 21 degrees, no so much. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. There are advantages to twins - they will tend to be a tad more efficient that a single. It wouldn't surprize me if you got the same fuel efficiency on twins as you would with a single. Not saying you will, I'm saying it wouldn't surprize me if you did. If this is a trailerable boat, then you will still be in vectored thrust land, but if it's not trailerable, then wide spaced twins on the stern will really give you some outstanding performance. If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little more specific. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
What do you plan to do with the boat and where are you?
Around here, NC, lot of people that like to fish the gulfstream prefer twins because you always have one to get home with. As well as running the inlets, if you lose one you're not in trouble. "Lance Osojnicki" wrote in message ... Seafox 256CC is the make and model number. http://www.seafoxboats.com wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 5, 3:05 pm, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki" wrote: Howdy, I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700 pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single. Thanks, Lance I have a good friend with a Judge 28'. He has a Honda 90 4-stroke on the back. It trolls nicely. Top speed is around 27mph. It takes a while to get on plane, but it will - eventually. It's all in how fast you want to go. Harry has 150hp on a 21' CC that is, according to him, pretty heavy. He's very pleased with it. The dry weight of my boat is either 2950 or 3000 pounds. I suspect the latter is with the molded in front seats, which I did not get. The 150 is terrific.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Oct 6, 7:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little more specific. Get a real news reader... Like Google! Already asked and answered, he told us which specific boat he is getting.. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Oct 6, 9:10 am, wrote:
On Oct 6, 7:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little more specific. Get a real news reader... Like Google! Already asked and answered, he told us which specific boat he is getting.. Here is his answer: Seafox 256CC is the make and model number. http://www.seafoxboats.com |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:12:41 -0000,
wrote: On Oct 6, 9:10 am, wrote: On Oct 6, 7:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little more specific. Get a real news reader... Like Google! Already asked and answered, he told us which specific boat he is getting.. Here is his answer: Seafox 256CC is the make and model number. http://www.seafoxboats.com Well, I did't wade through all the replies - my bad. If it's a Seafox, then a single will be fine. Seafox's are like Prolines - light as all get out. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
The single offers less hydrodynamic drag than the 2 do, and the 250 is
probably about equal to the 2x150s. If you want twins purely for the "reliability" argumant, just get the big single and get a contract with BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area). You'll save a buncha dough and not really sacrifice anything. There is pretty much only one beneficiary when you buy twins: the manufacturer. "DownTime" wrote in message ... Lance Osojnicki wrote: Seafox 256CC is the make and model number. http://www.seafoxboats.com All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration. Another factor to consider is the primary intended usage. Cruising? off-shore fishing? diving? I know people who are freaked out to run out of sight of land with just a single engine, and others who say a single OB (properly maintained) is the way to go. In either configuration, I'd recommend as much HP as allowed by he manufacturer that you can afford. I've had twins before, but it was stock rigged and I felt at the time with a load of divers and gear and fuel, that boat was under-powered. I now have a single OB (Yamaha 300 HPDI on 24 ft center console) and it suits me just fine. I've run from home in SW Florida to the Keys a couple of times with this single OB. Dual OBs are double the initial cost and double the on-going maintenance. I'm more a near shore boater, so a single works great for me. If I was a serious hard-core off-shore type, then I'd consider the twins. And again, with as much HP as the boat can handle within your budget. DownTime |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:38 -0400, "Rick Kulesh"
wrote: just get the big single and get a contract with BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area). Oh, that's just brilliant. Redunancy is important in boats like this and to save a few bucks by not using twins is silly. The 250 will push that thing around fine, but twins are important if he's planning on heading out a few miles offshore. Towing insurance companies are important, I agree, but not having the power to get out of trouble on your own is also importnat. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
I understand what you are saying, but in my experience, and I've had both
twins and singles, is that the only time I've needed to have twins is because I HAD twins. I maintain myself. With twins, I was always chasing after one engine, and I felt my time too split to properly maintain them. I can keep one engine in great shape, or twins in good shape. With a properly maintained single, I've never had problems. And I frequently go offshore. As a caveat, I favor sterndrives, but am assuming that outboards are about equal in reliability. My current I/O is a 5.7L Volvo-Penta GSi/DuoProp. "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:38 -0400, "Rick Kulesh" wrote: just get the big single and get a contract with BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area). Oh, that's just brilliant. Redunancy is important in boats like this and to save a few bucks by not using twins is silly. The 250 will push that thing around fine, but twins are important if he's planning on heading out a few miles offshore. Towing insurance companies are important, I agree, but not having the power to get out of trouble on your own is also importnat. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:05:35 -0400, "Rick Kulesh"
wrote: I understand what you are saying, but in my experience, and I've had both twins and singles, is that the only time I've needed to have twins is because I HAD twins. I maintain myself. With twins, I was always chasing after one engine, and I felt my time too split to properly maintain them. I can keep one engine in great shape, or twins in good shape. With a properly maintained single, I've never had problems. And I frequently go offshore. As a caveat, I favor sterndrives, but am assuming that outboards are about equal in reliability. My current I/O is a 5.7L Volvo-Penta GSi/DuoProp. No problem - if you are content with a single, by all means, go with a single. I've prefer twins on boats larger than 26 feet - that's just a personal perference. I'm like Gene - I'm big on redundancy so I can get myself out of trouble before I have to call for help. I've got double everything on my Ranger CC except for the engine - I have an ETEC 200 HO - and it ain't gonna completely fail unless I run out of gas. I have enough battery power for the trolling motor to keep me headed in the right direction or into the sea state. I will be adding a Johnson 25 four stroke as a trolling engine this winter. Side Bar: I will be rebadging it as an Evinrude just so it will match my ETEC. :) I still think you will get better overall performance out of a pair of 150s than a single 250, but that's not my decision. With respect to I/Os - not on a CC. No way. :) |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
D-unit wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:38 -0400, Rick Kulesh penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: The single offers less hydrodynamic drag than the 2 do, and the 250 is probably about equal to the 2x150s. If you want twins purely for the "reliability" argumant, just get the big single and get a contract with BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area). You'll save a buncha dough and not really sacrifice anything. I don't include BoatUS/SeaTow as part of my planned safety equipment. They are a fall back position for things I can't plan for or take steps to avoid. Redundancies a 2 bilge pumps, 2 VHF radios, 2 engines.... that is planning for the eventual inevitability... You and I are on the same page on that one. 2 engines, 2 batteries, jumper cables, battery booster, 2 keys, 2 radios. 2 GPS's...on and on... My question to the fellow I had to tow home a few weeks ago... Do you have a spare batt? "NO" Do you have a battery booster? "NO" Do you have a paddle? "NO" "Im thinking of getting out of the boating business..." He said, with a grin, throwing me his tow line. db I'm not sure what the hell you are going to do with a paddle on the typical deep vee or semi-deep-vee runabout... |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:38 -0400, Rick Kulesh penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: The single offers less hydrodynamic drag than the 2 do, and the 250 is probably about equal to the 2x150s. If you want twins purely for the "reliability" argumant, just get the big single and get a contract with BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area). You'll save a buncha dough and not really sacrifice anything. I don't include BoatUS/SeaTow as part of my planned safety equipment. They are a fall back position for things I can't plan for or take steps to avoid. Redundancies a 2 bilge pumps, 2 VHF radios, 2 engines.... that is planning for the eventual inevitability... You and I are on the same page on that one. 2 engines, 2 batteries, jumper cables, battery booster, 2 keys, 2 radios. 2 GPS's...on and on... My question to the fellow I had to tow home a few weeks ago... Do you have a spare batt? "NO" Do you have a battery booster? "NO" Do you have a paddle? "NO" "Im thinking of getting out of the boating business..." He said, with a grin, throwing me his tow line. db |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
"HK" wrote in message . .. I'm not sure what the hell you are going to do with a paddle on the typical deep vee or semi-deep-vee runabout... When you start to swamp over the LT, you tie this to the flat end of the paddle, raise it high in the air and wave it around like a mad man .... http://tinyurl.com/3ar7zw Eisboch |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message . .. I'm not sure what the hell you are going to do with a paddle on the typical deep vee or semi-deep-vee runabout... When you start to swamp over the LT, you tie this to the flat end of the paddle, raise it high in the air and wave it around like a mad man .... http://tinyurl.com/3ar7zw Eisboch *And* .... if you're really lucky ... some guy in a floating RV barge will come by and pick you up. Eisboch |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message . .. I'm not sure what the hell you are going to do with a paddle on the typical deep vee or semi-deep-vee runabout... When you start to swamp over the LT, you tie this to the flat end of the paddle, raise it high in the air and wave it around like a mad man .... http://tinyurl.com/3ar7zw Eisboch *And* .... if you're really lucky ... some guy in a floating RV barge will come by and pick you up. Eisboch There certainly were plenty of them out on the bay this weekend, heading south, and some of them were tossing up humongous wakes. These must have been the descendants of the a**holes who come barreling down the ICW in St. Augustine, with their wakes eroding the shorelines. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message . .. I'm not sure what the hell you are going to do with a paddle on the typical deep vee or semi-deep-vee runabout... When you start to swamp over the LT, you tie this to the flat end of the paddle, raise it high in the air and wave it around like a mad man .... http://tinyurl.com/3ar7zw Eisboch *And* .... if you're really lucky ... some guy in a floating RV barge will come by and pick you up. Eisboch There certainly were plenty of them out on the bay this weekend, heading south, and some of them were tossing up humongous wakes. These must have been the descendants of the a**holes who come barreling down the ICW in St. Augustine, with their wakes eroding the shorelines. You saw me, huh? At 10 kts. the Navigator throws one heck of a wake. At 20 kts. the wake is almost flat. The GB doesn't make a wake .... hardly. Eisboch |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message . .. I'm not sure what the hell you are going to do with a paddle on the typical deep vee or semi-deep-vee runabout... When you start to swamp over the LT, you tie this to the flat end of the paddle, raise it high in the air and wave it around like a mad man .... http://tinyurl.com/3ar7zw Eisboch *And* .... if you're really lucky ... some guy in a floating RV barge will come by and pick you up. Eisboch There certainly were plenty of them out on the bay this weekend, heading south, and some of them were tossing up humongous wakes. These must have been the descendants of the a**holes who come barreling down the ICW in St. Augustine, with their wakes eroding the shorelines. You saw me, huh? At 10 kts. the Navigator throws one heck of a wake. At 20 kts. the wake is almost flat. The GB doesn't make a wake .... hardly. Eisboch You'll note I said that "some" were tossing up humongous wakes. |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:27:42 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: *And* .... if you're really lucky ... some guy in a floating RV barge will come by and pick you up. Unless it's a LT Parker. In that case, first we present the salvage contract. :-) |
Single 250 or Twin 150s?
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:44:38 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:
2 engines, 2 batteries, jumper cables, battery booster, 2 keys, 2 radios. 2 GPS's...on and on... You must have a real problem with things breaking on you. Do you wear suspenders and a belt? ;-) Gene boats on the ocean, not this pansy Lake Eerie stuff. |
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