On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:56:05 +0000, Larry wrote:

My piggy bank would like to say
single.


Seatow hopes you'll get the single, too!....(c;

SeaTow is a legitimate strategy if you boat in an area with no
immediate hazzards and you have good communications on the boat. They
will cut you off however if you have chronic problems. I think that's
reasonable.

I have twice rescued boats who were unable to contact SeaTow so it is
important to recognize the limitations of using them as a backup plan.

JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:29:07 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

My twins were on boats with I/O's. I could pivot either of them on a
dime
and could easily stern in when docking. My single drives (I/O's also)
could
not and my ability to maneuver in reverse was/is a bit challenging. I
could
not imagine trying to stern in with an single I/O.
I'm now on my second single engine I/O, both in the 24 to 27 ft range.
I've had no issues backing them in as long as there are no cross wind
or cross current issues. It does take some practice to anticipate how
the boat will react to combinations of steering and throttle.

I have had a lot of practice with backing up and manevering with a single
I/O. If you are saying that doing so is comparable to doing so with twins
then you are wrong.

It is different, but very easy if you know how to do it correctly.

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki"
wrote:

Howdy,

I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs 3700
pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and go or
will a pair of 150s be necessary?

Maybe. I'd want to sea trial a similar boat with that engine before I
committed. 3700 lbs doesn't sound like a lot for a 25' CC, but by the
time you dump a hundred gallons of gas in it, gear and three people in
it, you can hit 4500 lbs easy. You didn't mention what model boat it
was - that would help a little - some boats are better designed than
others.

Twins are the way to go and preferably 200s.

I think 3700 is pretty light for a 25' CC compared to a Grady or Mako.

Yes and no. Depends on the hull design. A 24.5' bay boat is
technically a CC and there are intermediate types of CC boats that are
designed to be a "cross over" bay/center - etc. Really need to know
what the model is you are looking at. A bay boat, for instance, have
a completely different type of hull and at 25' would perform well with
a 250. A 25' CC with a deadrise of 21 degrees, no so much.

Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to say single.

There are advantages to twins - they will tend to be a tad more
efficient that a single. It wouldn't surprize me if you got the same
fuel efficiency on twins as you would with a single. Not saying you
will, I'm saying it wouldn't surprize me if you did.

If this is a trailerable boat, then you will still be in vectored
thrust land, but if it's not trailerable, then wide spaced twins on
the stern will really give you some outstanding performance.

If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little
more specific.

What do you plan to do with the boat and where are you?

Around here, NC, lot of people that like to fish the gulfstream prefer twins
because you always have one to get home with. As well as running the
inlets, if you lose one you're not in trouble.

"Lance Osojnicki" wrote in message
...
Seafox 256CC is the make and model number.

http://www.seafoxboats.com


wrote in message
ps.com...
On Oct 5, 3:05 pm, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:18:47 -0400, "Lance Osojnicki"
wrote:

Howdy,

I am looking at a nice 25' center console fishing boat that weighs
3700
pounds dry and without power. Will a Suzuki 250 be enough get up and
go or
will a pair of 150s be necessary? I think 3700 is pretty light for a
25' CC
compared to a Grady or Mako. Thoughts? My piggy bank would like to
say
single.

Thanks,

Lance

I have a good friend with a Judge 28'. He has a Honda 90 4-stroke on
the
back. It trolls nicely. Top speed is around 27mph. It takes a while to
get
on plane, but it will - eventually.

It's all in how fast you want to go. Harry has 150hp on a 21' CC that
is,
according to him, pretty heavy. He's very pleased with it.

The dry weight of my boat is either 2950 or 3000 pounds. I suspect the
latter is with the molded in front seats, which I did not get. The 150
is terrific.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy
tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration.

On Oct 6, 7:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little
more specific.

Get a real news reader... Like Google! Already asked and answered, he
told us which specific boat he is getting..

On Oct 6, 9:10 am, wrote:
On Oct 6, 7:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little
more specific.

Get a real news reader... Like Google! Already asked and answered, he
told us which specific boat he is getting..

Here is his answer:

Seafox 256CC is the make and model number.

http://www.seafoxboats.com

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:12:41 -0000,
wrote:

On Oct 6, 9:10 am, wrote:
On Oct 6, 7:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

If I knew what model boat you are considering, I could be a little
more specific.

Get a real news reader... Like Google! Already asked and answered, he
told us which specific boat he is getting..

Here is his answer:

Seafox 256CC is the make and model number.

http://www.seafoxboats.com

Well, I did't wade through all the replies - my bad.

If it's a Seafox, then a single will be fine. Seafox's are like
Prolines - light as all get out.

The single offers less hydrodynamic drag than the 2 do, and the 250 is
probably about equal to the 2x150s. If you want twins purely for the
"reliability" argumant, just get the big single and get a contract with
BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area).
You'll save a buncha dough and not really sacrifice anything.

There is pretty much only one beneficiary when you buy twins: the
manufacturer.


"DownTime" wrote in message
news
Lance Osojnicki wrote:
Seafox 256CC is the make and model number.

http://www.seafoxboats.com
All in all, I don't think anyone can other than guess until this guy
tells us what make and model so we have an idea of hull configuration.


Another factor to consider is the primary intended usage. Cruising?
off-shore fishing? diving? I know people who are freaked out to run out of
sight of land with just a single engine, and others who say a single OB
(properly maintained) is the way to go.

In either configuration, I'd recommend as much HP as allowed by he
manufacturer that you can afford. I've had twins before, but it was stock
rigged and I felt at the time with a load of divers and gear and fuel,
that boat was under-powered. I now have a single OB (Yamaha 300 HPDI on 24
ft center console) and it suits me just fine. I've run from home in SW
Florida to the Keys a couple of times with this single OB.

Dual OBs are double the initial cost and double the on-going maintenance.
I'm more a near shore boater, so a single works great for me. If I was a
serious hard-core off-shore type, then I'd consider the twins. And again,
with as much HP as the boat can handle within your budget.

DownTime

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:38 -0400, "Rick Kulesh"
wrote:

just get the big single and get a contract with
BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area).

Oh, that's just brilliant.

Redunancy is important in boats like this and to save a few bucks by
not using twins is silly. The 250 will push that thing around fine,
but twins are important if he's planning on heading out a few miles
offshore.

Towing insurance companies are important, I agree, but not having the
power to get out of trouble on your own is also importnat.

I understand what you are saying, but in my experience, and I've had both
twins and singles, is that the only time I've needed to have twins is
because I HAD twins.

I maintain myself. With twins, I was always chasing after one engine, and I
felt my time too split to properly maintain them.

I can keep one engine in great shape, or twins in good shape. With a
properly maintained single, I've never had problems. And I frequently go
offshore.

As a caveat, I favor sterndrives, but am assuming that outboards are about
equal in reliability. My current I/O is a 5.7L Volvo-Penta GSi/DuoProp.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:38 -0400, "Rick Kulesh"
wrote:

just get the big single and get a contract with
BoatUS/SeaTow/(insert water-assistance company of choice in your area).

Oh, that's just brilliant.

Redunancy is important in boats like this and to save a few bucks by
not using twins is silly. The 250 will push that thing around fine,
but twins are important if he's planning on heading out a few miles
offshore.

Towing insurance companies are important, I agree, but not having the
power to get out of trouble on your own is also importnat.