I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!


All those intermediate sport fishing boats with big outboards are owned by
people that used to have an I/O.

That's why.

Eisboch

Tim wrote:
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!



Because:

Their drive system is more complicated (more turns) than an outboard,
Their boots can leak offshore, causing the boat to sink,
Their lower units cannot be raised completely out of the water when
the boat is not being used, leading to interesting corrosion, galvanic
action, and marine growth problems,
Their engines tend to take up lots of fishing space in the stern of the
boat,
Their engines are heavier, putting more weight in the stern,
Their exhaust systems and manifolds tend to rust out in five years or less.

As a previous owner of a 200hp Evinrude on a bass boat all I can say is it
was the biggest pile of junk I have ever owned in my life. It put me out of
the bass fishing craze. Wouldn't idle and blew ever 25 hours. It wasn't long
after that time that Evinrude went under. In two summers it had 3 power
heads put on at a cool 12k a piece, two under warranty and one after I
unloaded it to a car dealership owner.
Later,
Brad
"HK" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!



Because:

Their drive system is more complicated (more turns) than an outboard,
Their boots can leak offshore, causing the boat to sink,
Their lower units cannot be raised completely out of the water when
the boat is not being used, leading to interesting corrosion, galvanic
action, and marine growth problems,
Their engines tend to take up lots of fishing space in the stern of the
boat,
Their engines are heavier, putting more weight in the stern,
Their exhaust systems and manifolds tend to rust out in five years or
less.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:36:36 -0400, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!



Because:

Their drive system is more complicated (more turns) than an outboard,
Their boots can leak offshore, causing the boat to sink,
Their lower units cannot be raised completely out of the water when
the boat is not being used, leading to interesting corrosion, galvanic
action, and marine growth problems,
Their engines tend to take up lots of fishing space in the stern of the
boat,
Their engines are heavier, putting more weight in the stern,
Their exhaust systems and manifolds tend to rust out in five years or
less.


I'll add a couple mo

Rubber couplers between the engine and outdrive that wear out and shred.
(Usually means pulling the engine to replace)

Hydraulic lines for tilt/trim that leak.

Shift cables that get worn.

"Flappers" that rot and seize.

Can be susceptible to hydrolocking the engine if a large wave or wake hits
the stern hard with the engine off ... especially after the "flappers"
freeze up in the open position.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:36:36 -0400, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!



Because:

Their drive system is more complicated (more turns) than an outboard,
Their boots can leak offshore, causing the boat to sink,
Their lower units cannot be raised completely out of the water when
the boat is not being used, leading to interesting corrosion, galvanic
action, and marine growth problems,
Their engines tend to take up lots of fishing space in the stern of the
boat,
Their engines are heavier, putting more weight in the stern,
Their exhaust systems and manifolds tend to rust out in five years or
less.


I'll add a couple mo

Rubber couplers between the engine and outdrive that wear out and shred.
(Usually means pulling the engine to replace)

Hydraulic lines for tilt/trim that leak.

Shift cables that get worn.

"Flappers" that rot and seize.

Can be susceptible to hydrolocking the engine if a large wave or wake hits
the stern hard with the engine off ... especially after the "flappers"
freeze up in the open position.

Eisboch


Having read all this, what is the advantage to an I/O engine, if any?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
news
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:36:36 -0400, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!



Because:

Their drive system is more complicated (more turns) than an outboard,
Their boots can leak offshore, causing the boat to sink,
Their lower units cannot be raised completely out of the water when
the boat is not being used, leading to interesting corrosion, galvanic
action, and marine growth problems,
Their engines tend to take up lots of fishing space in the stern of the
boat,
Their engines are heavier, putting more weight in the stern,
Their exhaust systems and manifolds tend to rust out in five years or
less.


I'll add a couple mo

Rubber couplers between the engine and outdrive that wear out and shred.
(Usually means pulling the engine to replace)

Hydraulic lines for tilt/trim that leak.

Shift cables that get worn.

"Flappers" that rot and seize.

Can be susceptible to hydrolocking the engine if a large wave or wake
hits the stern hard with the engine off ... especially after the
"flappers" freeze up in the open position.

Eisboch


Having read all this, what is the advantage to an I/O engine, if any?


Cheaper than comparable power outboards.

Eisboch

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:36:36 -0400, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!


Because:

Their drive system is more complicated (more turns) than an outboard,
Their boots can leak offshore, causing the boat to sink,
Their lower units cannot be raised completely out of the water when
the boat is not being used, leading to interesting corrosion, galvanic
action, and marine growth problems,
Their engines tend to take up lots of fishing space in the stern of the
boat,
Their engines are heavier, putting more weight in the stern,
Their exhaust systems and manifolds tend to rust out in five years or
less.

I'll add a couple mo

Rubber couplers between the engine and outdrive that wear out and shred.
(Usually means pulling the engine to replace)

Hydraulic lines for tilt/trim that leak.

Shift cables that get worn.

"Flappers" that rot and seize.

Can be susceptible to hydrolocking the engine if a large wave or wake hits
the stern hard with the engine off ... especially after the "flappers"
freeze up in the open position.

Eisboch


Having read all this, what is the advantage to an I/O engine, if any?


They look pretty and are bigger. Size does matter.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:19:15 -0700, Tim wrote:

I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!

Tim, I had an I/O in my 21' Proline. I'll never have another I/O.

They must be winterized and de-winterized. Changing the oil is a nightmare.
In fact, almost any maintenance, other than checking the belt, is a
nightmare. Replacing manifolds and risers is a pain, besides being costly.
In the Ches Bay, they should be changed about every 7-8 years. I waited
until the ninth year. Had to be towed in.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:31:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been thinking about this and haven't really come to any
conclusion, But While in S. Florida this summer I was looking at the
fishing boats. and of course you had your diesel or large gas powered
Bluewater battlewagons, as Chuck would mention, they 40 footers with
three tier tuna towers etc. But then you had the smaller center
console sport fisherman craft, like the 22' - 27' Makos, Gradys,
Parkers, etc Thhat were all equipped with large outboard single or
dual.

I was wondering why, especially in the smaller craft there was the
absense of I/O's Like Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc.

Anyone I've talked to has never given me a direct conclusive answer.

Does it have to do with the salt water? handling charistics? etc?

I don't know why the I/O's arn't popular for intermediate sport
fishing.

Thats why I'm asking.

THANKS!


All those intermediate sport fishing boats with big outboards are owned by
people that used to have an I/O.

That's why.

Eisboch


And I'll soon be one of those!