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. There have been 23 hull breaches - holes that let in water - requiring
emergency dry-dock repairs in the 49 110- and 123-foot patrol boats since
2001.

. Each of the dozen 378-foot cutters, most of which operate in the
Pacific, suffers a significant engine or hydraulic or refrigeration
system breakdown on every patrol.

. For all major cutters and patrol boats, the number of unscheduled
maintenance days was 742 in fiscal 2004, up from 267 in fiscal 1999. The
loss of cutter days in fiscal 2004 equated to losing 10% of the major
fleet for an entire year.



Yep.

What, exactly, is the mission of the Coast Guard?

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Let's play with this one, especially since, in many locations, there is
nobody else who can handle it.

National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.
Enhance regional stability in support of the National Security Strategy,
utilizing the Coast Guard’s unique and relevant maritime capabilities.


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On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.


"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?

Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.

In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October

"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?

he said: "I would certianly hope so!"

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On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed
services.


"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?

Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.


"The United States Coast Guard is a military, multimission, maritime service
within the Department of Homeland Security and one of the nation's five
armed services."

Unless the dep't of homeland insecurity is part of the treasury dep't, then
things have changed.



In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October

"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?

he said: "I would certianly hope so!"


Maybe the mission is sometimes defined as "when there's nobody else to do
the job". For instance, a certain amount of nervousness exists with regard
to nasty people coming across Lake Ontario from that terrorist haven to the
north. If a suspicious boat needs boarding and a management change, who's
going to do the job? Our sheriffs, who can't find their own noses? Or, the
Coast Guard, who's at least got the necessary speed, boats, and heavier
armaments than the local toddlers?


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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:16:52 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.


"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?


Yes.

Read up on the history.

Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.


Neither. Homeland Security.

In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October

"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?

he said: "I would certianly hope so!"


My Dad was USCG right before WWII and when it began, all assets were
transferred to the Navy as I understood it.
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:16:52 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.

"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?


Yes.

Read up on the history.

Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.


Neither. Homeland Security.

In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October

"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?

he said: "I would certianly hope so!"


My Dad was USCG right before WWII and when it began, all assets were
transferred to the Navy as I understood it.


It also was part of the Navy during Viet Nam


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On Oct 3, 5:39 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:16:52 -0700, Tim wrote:


On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.
"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?


Yes.


Read up on the history.


Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.


Neither. Homeland Security.


In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October


"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?


he said: "I would certianly hope so!"


My Dad was USCG right before WWII and when it began, all assets were
transferred to the Navy as I understood it.


It also was part of the Navy during Viet Nam- Hide quoted text -

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Didn't realize that, Reg.

Thanks!

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On Oct 3, 5:00 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:16:52 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.


"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?


Yes.

Read up on the history.


OK.

Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.


Neither. Homeland Security.


The USCG has been pased around and has worn many hats, I forgot that
they had been trasfered out of the USDOT and now to Homeland Security
just 5 years ago.

In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October


"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?


he said: "I would certianly hope so!"


The above was stated in about 1978 well before the 2003 transfer

My Dad was USCG right before WWII and when it began, all assets were
transferred to the Navy as I understood it.


Thanks for his service!


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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:25:23 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 3, 5:00 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:16:52 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Oct 2, 7:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


National Defense: Defend the nation as one of the five U.S. armed services.


"one of the five U.S. armed services?"


But technically are they an "armed service"?


Yes.

Read up on the history.


OK.

Wondering because they fall under the Dept. of the Treasury, and not
the Dept. of Defense.


Neither. Homeland Security.


The USCG has been pased around and has worn many hats, I forgot that
they had been trasfered out of the USDOT and now to Homeland Security
just 5 years ago.

In the cold war days I asked a Navy recruiter a hypothetical question
sort of like the days of Red October


"OK, supposingly a soviet sub was found in the mouth of the
Mississippi Delta, then would the Coast Guard fall under the Dept of
the Navy?


he said: "I would certianly hope so!"


The above was stated in about 1978 well before the 2003 transfer

My Dad was USCG right before WWII and when it began, all assets were
transferred to the Navy as I understood it.


Thanks for his service!


That's how he met my Mother actually. She was one of the female radio
operators at the USCG station in Atlantic City, NJ and later one of
the chief operators at the famous USCG radio station on Cape Cod.

Her discharge papers indicate that she wasn't no mere operator either
- CPO. She never talked much about it, but when I first became
interested in radio, she taught me Morse and we used to converse in
Morse all the time. Even at 80 YO, she could still copy a solid 30
WPM. When she passed on, I put her favorite "bug" in the casket with
her.

One of my Dad's sisters was a Army Air Force transfer pilot - flew
B-25s and Stratofortress across the Atlantic to England and later in
the war, flew P-51 Mustangs to Continental Europe - unarmed into some
hot zones.

Amazing people that WWII generation - duty, honor and sacrifice was a
part of their general social gestalt.
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