I've finally had it with my old radar.

It still works, after taking what seems like about five minutes for
the tube to warm up.
The display is fine, as long as it isn't daytime. During the daytime,
you have to look through a rubber "mask" that blocks out ambient
light- and also prevents you from seeing anything else *except* the
radar screen. The unit has been hanging from the headliner just about
an inch and a half too high for comfortable viewing through the mask,
so standing on tip-toe has long been a part of my radar routine.

The CRT display monitor is as big as a bread box, blocking vision to
an unneccesary degree even when radar isn't running (I run with it off
most of the time).

So this afternoon the whole shooting match was dismounted. It's off to
the
second hand marine consignment store with my Raytheon 2600
"Manufacture date, October 1981". I hope to get $300 for it, but will
probably have to take less. The next owner will appreciate that I
disconnected the wiring harness at both ends *and* have the original
Raytheon book and schematics illustrating where all the connections
should be remade.

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.
I thought the C-70 might have too small a display, but I borrowed a
full size graphic from the dealer to take over to the boat and see.
Turns out the screen is just as big as the screen on the Simrad CP33
plotter- which has never seemed too small and is about 2-feet farther
away than where the radar will mount.

The new unit won't require all the fiddling and twiddling with "sea
state" and "gain" knobs and will allow computerized target tracking
and other advanced features the oldie but goodie never dreamed of.

The C-70 can function as a full feature nav system, display AIS
targets,
hook up to a dpeth sounder, and much more. I have decided just to use
mine for radar. Already have a sounder, and I don't want to put all my
eggs into a single electronic basket. I'm keeping the Simrad CP33, so
if the radar monitor craps out I will still have a GPS plotter
working. (Using the entire screen for radar image also mitigates fears
of the image being too small- splitting a screen that small for 2-3
simultaneous displays may not be such a hot idea).

My most common nav tool remains the paper chart- but you can't beat a
plotter for confirming whether you are where you think you are on that
chart and you can't beat radar for seeing (and being seen) in dark or
foggy conditions.

I'll be installing the C-70 this week. The only tough part is adhering
to my standard practice of buying from a local independent supplier
whenever possible. My source has to pay more for Raymarine than I can
buy it, retail, at one of the largest marine supply stores in the
country. grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble.........at least standing
on priciple is only going to cost a couple of hundred bucks this time
around. :-)

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:39:11 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.

You will like it - it's a good unit.

Chuck Gould wrote:
I've finally had it with my old radar.

It still works, after taking what seems like about five minutes for
the tube to warm up.
The display is fine, as long as it isn't daytime. During the daytime,
you have to look through a rubber "mask" that blocks out ambient
light- and also prevents you from seeing anything else *except* the
radar screen. The unit has been hanging from the headliner just about
an inch and a half too high for comfortable viewing through the mask,
so standing on tip-toe has long been a part of my radar routine.

The CRT display monitor is as big as a bread box, blocking vision to
an unneccesary degree even when radar isn't running (I run with it off
most of the time).

So this afternoon the whole shooting match was dismounted. It's off to
the
second hand marine consignment store with my Raytheon 2600
"Manufacture date, October 1981". I hope to get $300 for it, but will
probably have to take less. The next owner will appreciate that I
disconnected the wiring harness at both ends *and* have the original
Raytheon book and schematics illustrating where all the connections
should be remade.

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.

Hope you are paying less than $2200 for the C70 with the radome.

JimH wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:
I've finally had it with my old radar.

It still works, after taking what seems like about five minutes for
the tube to warm up.
The display is fine, as long as it isn't daytime. During the daytime,
you have to look through a rubber "mask" that blocks out ambient
light- and also prevents you from seeing anything else *except* the
radar screen. The unit has been hanging from the headliner just about
an inch and a half too high for comfortable viewing through the mask,
so standing on tip-toe has long been a part of my radar routine.

The CRT display monitor is as big as a bread box, blocking vision to
an unneccesary degree even when radar isn't running (I run with it off
most of the time).

So this afternoon the whole shooting match was dismounted. It's off to
the
second hand marine consignment store with my Raytheon 2600
"Manufacture date, October 1981". I hope to get $300 for it, but will
probably have to take less. The next owner will appreciate that I
disconnected the wiring harness at both ends *and* have the original
Raytheon book and schematics illustrating where all the connections
should be remade.

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.
Hope you are paying less than $2200 for the C70 with the radome.
Heck, I hope is paying less than $1,800 for the C-70 with the
radome....this took me 5 minutes to find and is brand new:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rayma...QQcmdZViewItem

http://tinyurl.com/yoqsnr

Harry, did your purchase qualify for the $300 rebate from Raymarine?




I didn't buy a radar for my little feeeeeshing boat. I do have a Ray
feeeeeeeeshfinder, though. Got that from my dealer, along with a pretty
expensive transducer, and installation as part of my Yamaha engine rebate.

On Oct 1, 3:08?pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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Chuck Gould wrote:
I've finally had it with my old radar.

It still works, after taking what seems like about five minutes for
the tube to warm up.
The display is fine, as long as it isn't daytime. During the daytime,
you have to look through a rubber "mask" that blocks out ambient
light- and also prevents you from seeing anything else *except* the
radar screen. The unit has been hanging from the headliner just about
an inch and a half too high for comfortable viewing through the mask,
so standing on tip-toe has long been a part of my radar routine.

The CRT display monitor is as big as a bread box, blocking vision to
an unneccesary degree even when radar isn't running (I run with it off
most of the time).

So this afternoon the whole shooting match was dismounted. It's off to
the
second hand marine consignment store with my Raytheon 2600
"Manufacture date, October 1981". I hope to get $300 for it, but will
probably have to take less. The next owner will appreciate that I
disconnected the wiring harness at both ends *and* have the original
Raytheon book and schematics illustrating where all the connections
should be remade.

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.

Hope you are paying less than $2200 for the C70 with the radome.

Heck, I hope is paying less than $1,800 for the C-70 with the radome....this
took me 5 minutes to find and is brand new:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rayma...r-Dome-Antenna...

http://tinyurl.com/yoqsnr- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The best price I found was $1400 net after rebate. I paid a little
more to do business with a local firm. Money well spent, IMO.

On Sep 30, 8:39?pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
I've finally had it with my old radar.

It still works, after taking what seems like about five minutes for
the tube to warm up.
The display is fine, as long as it isn't daytime. During the daytime,
you have to look through a rubber "mask" that blocks out ambient
light- and also prevents you from seeing anything else *except* the
radar screen. The unit has been hanging from the headliner just about
an inch and a half too high for comfortable viewing through the mask,
so standing on tip-toe has long been a part of my radar routine.

The CRT display monitor is as big as a bread box, blocking vision to
an unneccesary degree even when radar isn't running (I run with it off
most of the time).

So this afternoon the whole shooting match was dismounted. It's off to
the
second hand marine consignment store with my Raytheon 2600
"Manufacture date, October 1981". I hope to get $300 for it, but will
probably have to take less. The next owner will appreciate that I
disconnected the wiring harness at both ends *and* have the original
Raytheon book and schematics illustrating where all the connections
should be remade.

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.
I thought the C-70 might have too small a display, but I borrowed a
full size graphic from the dealer to take over to the boat and see.
Turns out the screen is just as big as the screen on the Simrad CP33
plotter- which has never seemed too small and is about 2-feet farther
away than where the radar will mount.

The new unit won't require all the fiddling and twiddling with "sea
state" and "gain" knobs and will allow computerized target tracking
and other advanced features the oldie but goodie never dreamed of.

The C-70 can function as a full feature nav system, display AIS
targets,
hook up to a dpeth sounder, and much more. I have decided just to use
mine for radar. Already have a sounder, and I don't want to put all my
eggs into a single electronic basket. I'm keeping the Simrad CP33, so
if the radar monitor craps out I will still have a GPS plotter
working. (Using the entire screen for radar image also mitigates fears
of the image being too small- splitting a screen that small for 2-3
simultaneous displays may not be such a hot idea).

My most common nav tool remains the paper chart- but you can't beat a
plotter for confirming whether you are where you think you are on that
chart and you can't beat radar for seeing (and being seen) in dark or
foggy conditions.

I'll be installing the C-70 this week. The only tough part is adhering
to my standard practice of buying from a local independent supplier
whenever possible. My source has to pay more for Raymarine than I can
buy it, retail, at one of the largest marine supply stores in the
country. grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble.........at least standing
on priciple is only going to cost a couple of hundred bucks this time
around. :-)


And there I was, packing my Ratheon 2600 into our local marine
consignment shop, when I got stopped at the door.

"Hey, Chuck! I hope you're not planning to bring that thing in here!"

"What do mean, 'that thing'? It's a perfectly good 1981 model Raytheon
2600 CRT radar. Top of the line in its day. Here's the wiring harness
along with the original manual and schematic that shows how to hook
everything up. I'm willing to certify in writing that it was working
when I took it off my boat."

"Yeah, yeah. But we can't even give those things away. We'd be lucky
to sell it in a year. You can put it in the "free" bin if you want to-
somebody might fish it out for parts or something, but we won't use up
any shelf space trying to sell it. Nobody wants those old CRT units."

Some guy standing in line buys odd looking stuff to apply to the
outside of a bizarre car he's building (calls it an "art car").....he
is a sign painter and offers to trade me some sign work for the whole
works.
But I don't need a sign............

Hey- it may be old an antiquated, but it still works about as well as
it was ever designed to. I'm at an age where there's a whole lot more
livin' behind me than there could possibly be ahead of me, so it's a
bit distressing to hear something that was quite the item in its day
dissed so mercilessly and cast out upon the nearest scrap heap.

Craigs list, here I come. Check that----- here the radar comes. :-)

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:39:11 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

RayMarine has a pretty god deal on the C-70 radar pack right now.
I thought the C-70 might have too small a display, but I borrowed a
full size graphic from the dealer to take over to the boat and see.

I'm a bit of a Furuno bigot but virtually any new radar will run
circles around a unit from the early 80s. Anything with electronic
components has improved enormously in that time. Does it have the
ARPA functions?

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:30:48 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Getting rid of these monitors will become increasingly more difficult in the
future, most likely to the point that one will have to pay to safely dispose
of one.

There is a way.

Put them out on the curb the day before trash collection with a sign
that says FREE.

As we used to say in NY, free is a very good price.

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:41:30 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:30:48 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Getting rid of these monitors will become increasingly more difficult in the
future, most likely to the point that one will have to pay to safely dispose
of one.

There is a way.

Put them out on the curb the day before trash collection with a sign
that says FREE.

As we used to say in NY, free is a very good price.

Or as we say in the Nutmeg State - Free's for me!

Heh - my nephew is a service manager for a boat shop and had a couple
of boats that were left with large bills.

He stripped them of parts, inflated the trailer tires and put both of
them out by the road by his shop with a big sign FREE.

He actually had guys fighting over the boats. :)

On Oct 1, 6:41?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:30:48 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:
Getting rid of these monitors will become increasingly more difficult in the
future, most likely to the point that one will have to pay to safely dispose
of one.

There is a way.

Put them out on the curb the day before trash collection with a sign
that says FREE.


Alas. Around here most folks would assume that "free" meant a place to
dump more hazardous waste without charge. Put one old TV, computer
monitor, etc on the curb with a "free" sign and you're likely to find
a group of half a dozen castoffs or so assembled by the following
morning.

We're lucky enough to live in a neighborhood where people don't
routinely pile old furniture, etc, at the curb hoping somebody will
haul the junk away. My "thrifty" (she claims- I say "cheap") wife has
tried this from time to time with mixed success. I always tease her by
singing a highy customized version of the Beverly Hillbillies theme
song. :-)

No, I think Craigs List will be the solution. I'd put it on Ebay, but
the thing has to weigh 40 pounds or more and the dome is close to 3
feet in diameter so FedEx Ground would be pretty expensive. Local
pickup would be the ideal solution.

It's hard to believe- well maybe it's just hard to accept- that nobody
will want a working radar. :-)