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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:51:16 -0700, jps wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:06:55 -0400, HK wrote: Lu Powell wrote: Why was my response edited out? It negates the issue.... "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp " Doesn't matter. Bush has secured his place in history as the dumbest and worst president in this nation's history. No, no, no. That would be Jimmy Carter who is universally regarded, even by his own party, as the Worst President Ever. How utterly laughable. Partisan illusion. You expose yourself. During Carter's presidency the United States was beset by stagflation, suffered massive fuel shortages, and struggled through several major crises including the invasion of the American Embassy in Tehran and the subsequent holding of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamic Radicals. He introduced a staggered increase in the payroll tax in a failed attempt to bolster the Social Security. In foreign affairs, Carter pursued the Camp David Accords (failed), the Panama Canal Treaties (as in giving away a strategic component of national security) and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) (unilateral disarming). The final year of his term was dominated by the Iran hostage crisis, during which the United States struggled to rescue diplomats and American citizens held hostage in Tehran. By 1980, Carter was so unpopular that he was challenged byTed Kennedy for the Democratic Party nomination in 1980. Carter eventually received the nomination but lost the election, in a landslide, to Republican Ronald Reagan. Only three postwar presidents have gone lower than the current President Bush - Jimmy Carter (lowest) , Nixon and Harry Truman. And only one has had a higher disapproval rating, Nixon. Carter's concurrent (as in during his Presidency) negative rating ratio was 5:1 - the lowest of ANY modern President. Partisian my ass. |
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On Sep 30, 3:03 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:51:16 -0700, jps wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:06:55 -0400, HK wrote: Lu Powell wrote: Why was my response edited out? It negates the issue.... "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp" Doesn't matter. Bush has secured his place in history as the dumbest and worst president in this nation's history. No, no, no. That would be Jimmy Carter who is universally regarded, even by his own party, as the Worst President Ever. How utterly laughable. Partisan illusion. You expose yourself. During Carter's presidency the United States was beset by stagflation, suffered massive fuel shortages, and struggled through several major crises including the invasion of the American Embassy in Tehran and the subsequent holding of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamic Radicals. He introduced a staggered increase in the payroll tax in a failed attempt to bolster the Social Security. In foreign affairs, Carter pursued the Camp David Accords (failed), the Panama Canal Treaties (as in giving away a strategic component of national security) and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) (unilateral disarming). The final year of his term was dominated by the Iran hostage crisis, during which the United States struggled to rescue diplomats and American citizens held hostage in Tehran. By 1980, Carter was so unpopular that he was challenged byTed Kennedy for the Democratic Party nomination in 1980. Carter eventually received the nomination but lost the election, in a landslide, to Republican Ronald Reagan. Only three postwar presidents have gone lower than the current President Bush - Jimmy Carter (lowest) , Nixon and Harry Truman. And only one has had a higher disapproval rating, Nixon. Carter's concurrent (as in during his Presidency) negative rating ratio was 5:1 - the lowest of ANY modern President. Partisian my ass.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wouldn't Warren Harding and U. S. Grant also be included in the list? |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:54:44 -0000, Tim wrote:
On Sep 30, 3:03 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:51:16 -0700, jps wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:06:55 -0400, HK wrote: Lu Powell wrote: Why was my response edited out? It negates the issue.... "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp" Doesn't matter. Bush has secured his place in history as the dumbest and worst president in this nation's history. No, no, no. That would be Jimmy Carter who is universally regarded, even by his own party, as the Worst President Ever. How utterly laughable. Partisan illusion. You expose yourself. During Carter's presidency the United States was beset by stagflation, suffered massive fuel shortages, and struggled through several major crises including the invasion of the American Embassy in Tehran and the subsequent holding of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamic Radicals. He introduced a staggered increase in the payroll tax in a failed attempt to bolster the Social Security. In foreign affairs, Carter pursued the Camp David Accords (failed), the Panama Canal Treaties (as in giving away a strategic component of national security) and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) (unilateral disarming). The final year of his term was dominated by the Iran hostage crisis, during which the United States struggled to rescue diplomats and American citizens held hostage in Tehran. By 1980, Carter was so unpopular that he was challenged byTed Kennedy for the Democratic Party nomination in 1980. Carter eventually received the nomination but lost the election, in a landslide, to Republican Ronald Reagan. Only three postwar presidents have gone lower than the current President Bush - Jimmy Carter (lowest) , Nixon and Harry Truman. And only one has had a higher disapproval rating, Nixon. Carter's concurrent (as in during his Presidency) negative rating ratio was 5:1 - the lowest of ANY modern President. Partisian my ass.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wouldn't Warren Harding and U. S. Grant also be included in the list? Probably, but we're talking contemporary - say post-FDR. |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:50:15 -0700, jps wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:21:36 -0700, "Long Ranger" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message . .. Lu Powell wrote: Why was my response edited out? It negates the issue.... "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp " Doesn't matter. Bush has secured his place in history as the dumbest and worst president in this nation's history. Irrelevant to the thread, just like you... That is right. I would mention that even though I voted for Bush as a conservative, I would gladly have him hanged at this point. I say this because it is important to have a VALID reason to substantiate your dislike and missives. Liberals tend to hate Bush for reasons that really don't exist, and that often don't even matter to anyone of any maturity. The idea of this thread is an excellent example. I'm not happy with Bush either, but we had no choice. Either Algore, Jr or Kerry would have been MAJOR disasters for the USA. It looks like the democrats are going to nominate another MAJOR disaster for their Presidential nominee. Mike Smith You think either of those democrats would've been more disastrous for the US than Bush? ABSOLUTELY!!! I'm 100% positive they would have been far worse. Wow. I can't imagine what they would have done that would have ****ed our country up as badly as Bush has. Of course you couldn't... Can you cite some examples of how that might have happened? jps Algore, Jr would still be pacifying the Taliban and al qaeda and allowing Saddam to shoot at our planes on a daily basis. Our taxes would have definitely gone Up.. Up... Up... If Kerry had won, he would have already surrendered to al qaeda, and apologized to Saddam for infringing on his country, while allowing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis to be slaughtered by saddam. And he would have raised our taxes. That's just for starters... Mike Smith |
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![]() "Lu Powell" wrote in message . .. [snipped] "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The question isn't whether Ronald Reagan thought highly or poorly of GWB, it's whether this discussion belongs in a boating NG. I have a few opinions of my own about the currently sitting POTUS, but pro or con they aren't appropriate for a non-political NG. AGREED! Isn't that cute! 2 new Net Cops. Cross posted to: tx.guns,tx.politics,alt.california,soc.retirement, rec.boats What the heck do guns, retirement, and boats have to do with this post? You're an old geezer who doesn't know how to work his computer. |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:03:16 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
During Carter's presidency the United States was beset by stagflation, suffered massive fuel shortages, and struggled through several major crises including the invasion of the American Embassy in Tehran and the subsequent holding of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamic Radicals. He introduced a staggered increase in the payroll tax in a failed attempt to bolster the Social Security. In foreign affairs, Carter pursued the Camp David Accords (failed), the Panama Canal Treaties (as in giving away a strategic component of national security) and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) (unilateral disarming). The final year of his term was dominated by the Iran hostage crisis, during which the United States struggled to rescue diplomats and American citizens held hostage in Tehran. By 1980, Carter was so unpopular that he was challenged byTed Kennedy for the Democratic Party nomination in 1980. Carter eventually received the nomination but lost the election, in a landslide, to Republican Ronald Reagan. Only three postwar presidents have gone lower than the current President Bush - Jimmy Carter (lowest) , Nixon and Harry Truman. And only one has had a higher disapproval rating, Nixon. Carter's concurrent (as in during his Presidency) negative rating ratio was 5:1 - the lowest of ANY modern President. Partisian my ass. OK, I'll bite. Who appointed Paul Volcker to the FED? What Panamanian signed the Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty? What would prompt a nice conservative like RR to send arms to Iran, just two months after they release the hostages? If Carter's initiative to be energy independent by 2000 hadn't been dismantled by RR, do you think we would be in Iraq today? |
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Mike Smith wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:50:15 -0700, jps wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:21:36 -0700, "Long Ranger" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message news:asKdnReBgZZXQ2PbnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast. com... "HK" wrote in message news:wLednSz9ga0HR2PbnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@comcast .com... Lu Powell wrote: Why was my response edited out? It negates the issue.... "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp " Doesn't matter. Bush has secured his place in history as the dumbest and worst president in this nation's history. Irrelevant to the thread, just like you... That is right. I would mention that even though I voted for Bush as a conservative, I would gladly have him hanged at this point. I say this because it is important to have a VALID reason to substantiate your dislike and missives. Liberals tend to hate Bush for reasons that really don't exist, and that often don't even matter to anyone of any maturity. The idea of this thread is an excellent example. I'm not happy with Bush either, but we had no choice. Either Algore, Jr or Kerry would have been MAJOR disasters for the USA. It looks like the democrats are going to nominate another MAJOR disaster for their Presidential nominee. Mike Smith You think either of those democrats would've been more disastrous for the US than Bush? ABSOLUTELY!!! I'm 100% positive they would have been far worse. Wow. I can't imagine what they would have done that would have ****ed our country up as badly as Bush has. Of course you couldn't... Can you cite some examples of how that might have happened? jps Algore, Jr would still be pacifying the Taliban and al qaeda and allowing Saddam to shoot at our planes on a daily basis. Our taxes would have definitely gone Up.. Up... Up... If Kerry had won, he would have already surrendered to al qaeda, and apologized to Saddam for infringing on his country, while allowing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis to be slaughtered by saddam. And he would have raised our taxes. That's just for starters... Mike Smith Both selfish and ignorant. Great combination. |
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In article ,
says... On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:51:16 -0700, jps wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:06:55 -0400, HK wrote: Lu Powell wrote: Why was my response edited out? It negates the issue.... "Never happened. More urban folklore for the very gullible. See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp " Doesn't matter. Bush has secured his place in history as the dumbest and worst president in this nation's history. No, no, no. That would be Jimmy Carter who is universally regarded, even by his own party, as the Worst President Ever. How utterly laughable. Partisan illusion. You expose yourself. During Carter's presidency the United States was beset by stagflation, suffered massive fuel shortages, and struggled through several major crises including the invasion of the American Embassy in Tehran and the subsequent holding of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamic Radicals. He introduced a staggered increase in the payroll tax in a failed attempt to bolster the Social Security. In foreign affairs, Carter pursued the Camp David Accords (failed), the Panama Canal Treaties (as in giving away a strategic component of national security) and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) (unilateral disarming). The final year of his term was dominated by the Iran hostage crisis, during which the United States struggled to rescue diplomats and American citizens held hostage in Tehran. By 1980, Carter was so unpopular that he was challenged byTed Kennedy for the Democratic Party nomination in 1980. Carter eventually received the nomination but lost the election, in a landslide, to Republican Ronald Reagan. Only three postwar presidents have gone lower than the current President Bush - Jimmy Carter (lowest) , Nixon and Harry Truman. And only one has had a higher disapproval rating, Nixon. Carter's concurrent (as in during his Presidency) negative rating ratio was 5:1 - the lowest of ANY modern President. Partisian my ass. I'm sure your ass is just as partisan as the rest of you. Unpopularity isn't necessarily the measurement of a president's success or failure. Carter was saddled with circumstances, some of which were beyond his control, as is the case with all presidents. He was dealt a particularly bad hand. His successor dismantled oversight on banking and caused a giant debacle featuring a good many of his cronies, Iran contra, created massive deficits through tax cuts and trickle down economics... etc., etc. You probably think he was a great man. He was well in the hand of Lew Wasserman from before he was elected Governor of California. Another puppet as the mercy of his handlers, just like the stooge we've got now. You think Harry Truman was a bad president because of his approval rating? Bush makes them all look like pikers. Giuliani would make Bush look mild. We'd be reliving the days when Stalin had Trotsky killed with an ice pick. Your party has gone off the cliff. Do me a favor, talk to your family about it, if they'll consent to humor you with a conversation. jps |
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On Sep 30, 7:46 pm, "Rip" wrote:
What the heck do guns, retirement, and boats have to do with this post? You're an old geezer who doesn't know how to work his computer. That's not the problem here. She knows how to use her computer just fine. Not a lot of folks care to hear bigots like her yammer on about ho we should all hate Mexicans. So, she's just trying to troll some people in from elsewhere - people who want even LESS to talk about immigration than those in the topical newsgroups. |
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